CS Kuria "hates mitumba"

[audacityofhope]

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The art of propaganda. Dont complicate it. Nobody will understand the complex issues here. Keep it simple. All the people will remember is you hate Mitumba. That in a country that loves Mitumba. People will not vote for such.

Kenyans even if they can afford new clothes - still love Mitumba - for some Mitumba are pretty high class clothing.

I personally buy Mitumba leather shoes...for 5-6K you can get really good quality leather shoes. If you go to Bata - you'll end up with crap that cannot stand the test of time.

This is the difference! We believe in the dignity of every Kenyan & we respect the Hustler! They don’t! pic.twitter.com/lyzYGgDMsE

— Hussein Mohamed, MBS. (@HusseinMohamedg) June 14, 2022

[audacityofhope]

When I remember how they incited Mitumba traders against Raila Odinga. pic.twitter.com/NzdLekVy9a

— Cornelius K. Ronoh (@itskipronoh) November 1, 2022

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[audacityofhope]

During campaigns Moses Kuria stormed Gikomba Market days after Raila Odinga's remarks on Mitumba. Kuria promised to protect the traders from being phased out. pic.twitter.com/y45EDhINNj

— Cornelius K. Ronoh (@itskipronoh) November 1, 2022

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[RV Pundit]

I think he clarified but he should be careful....he will need to stop talking too much and focus on working.

[audacityofhope]

I think he clarified but he should be careful....he will need to stop talking too much and focus on working.

Azimio also clarified but at the time you said "Nobody will understand the complex issues therein". So somehow now 3 months later it is no longer "complex" and can be understood? Wueh!

The art of propaganda. Dont complicate it. Nobody will understand the complex issues here. Keep it simple. All the people will remember is you hate Mitumba. That in a country that loves Mitumba. People will not vote for such.... bla bla

[RV Pundit]

You're the most obtuse person in this forum.
Always asking stupid questions.
Governing and campaigning are two different things.

Azimio also clarified but at the time you said "Nobody will understand the complex issues therein". So somehow now 3 months later it is no longer "complex" and can be understood? Wueh!

[audacityofhope]

Facts are facts.
1 + 1 is always 2. It does not change with the seasons. It is not 2 in the campaign season and ceases to be so, becoming 3 in the governing season. The English have a specific word for your types - Conmen.

[hk]

Kenya is just not competitive in the sweat shop garment industry due to high cost constrains. If it were, Agoa would be fully utilized. Mitumba of everything from clothes, vehicles , computers etc are just indicators of a low income economy. 

[RV Pundit]

But why? What if we can use Lamu idle port; build SEZ there; invite all those companies; and make Lamu free port; throw in solar power; and we have so many idle jobless people. Allow the companies there duty free everything - tax free holidays - free land. Then provide security of course from crazy Somalis.

Athi river failed because it's just too interior. I see lots of SEZ EPZ in Kilifi-Mombasa highway.

Lamu is ideal. Port is already built.  We just need to build huge SEZ.

Even China wasnt competitive when it started - but they started from Shenzen. Lamu for me represent a chance to build dream manufacturing destination. Next we go for Dongo Kundu.

These export led manufacturing must be created in coastal counties - few meters from the ports - they need to be able to ship in raw materials - add value - ship out - like a cruise ship - and leave us with employment benefits

Kenya is just not competitive in the sweat shop garment industry due to high cost constrains. If it were, Agoa would be fully utilized. Mitumba of everything from clothes, vehicles , computers etc are just indicators of a low income economy. 

[hk]

But why? What if we can use Lamu idle port; build SEZ there; invite all those companies; and make Lamu free port; throw in solar power; and we have so many idle jobless people. Allow the companies there duty free everything - tax free holidays - free land. Then provide security of course from crazy Somalis.

Athi river failed because it's just too interior. I see lots of SEZ EPZ in Kilifi-Mombasa highway.

Lamu is ideal. Port is already built.  We just need to build huge SEZ.

Even China wasnt competitive when it started - but they started from Shenzen. Lamu for me represent a chance to build dream manufacturing destination. Next we go for Dongo Kundu.

These export led manufacturing must be created in coastal counties - few meters from the ports - they need to be able to ship in raw materials - add value - ship out - like a cruise ship - and leave us with employment benefits

Kenya is just not competitive in the sweat shop garment industry due to high cost constrains. If it were, Agoa would be fully utilized. Mitumba of everything from clothes, vehicles , computers etc are just indicators of a low income economy. 

Cost of labor is the biggest cost factor not logistics.

[RV Pundit]

How much do they pay in EPZ compared to say Bangladesh? And what do we need to reduce the cost of labour say in SEZ - say we curve out 100K acres Lamu - make it a small china to employ a million people. Disallow unions. Set Minimum wages to Bangladesh/Veitnam. It's a free country - whoever will be willing to go to SEZ - and live/work like Bangadeshi sweat job - should go there - rather than starving or stealing

Cost of labor is the biggest cost factor not logistics.

[hk]

How much do they pay in EPZ compared to say Bangladesh? And what do we need to reduce the cost of labour say in SEZ - say we curve out 100K acres Lamu - make it a small china to employ a million people. Disallow unions. Set Minimum wages to Bangladesh/Veitnam. It's a free country - whoever will be willing to go to SEZ - and live/work like Bangadeshi sweat job - should go there - rather than starving or stealing

Cost of labor is the biggest cost factor not logistics.

Its a question of low productivity,

What are the issues with our garment/textile industry? I wrote this in study for the Export Promotion Centre way back in 2014. You’d think Raila would have access to such work to inform his manifesto but it seems only State capacity he is after is #SystemYaMajambazi pic.twitter.com/2HIntRT2GX

— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) June 8, 2022

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[RV Pundit]

Why? Lack of training? Equipment?

Its a question of low productivity,

What are the issues with our garment/textile industry? I wrote this in study for the Export Promotion Centre way back in 2014. You’d think Raila would have access to such work to inform his manifesto but it seems only State capacity he is after is #SystemYaMajambazi pic.twitter.com/2HIntRT2GX

— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) June 8, 2022

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[Githunguri]

Mitumba should be banned...we need to have local textile companies supplied by local cotton growers..most of these Mitumba people will be absorbed in that value chain...GOVERMENT can also train and sub contract Mitumba sellers with textile machines to work from their homes and supply apparels with certain set standards.

I just wonder how these Mitumba people survive...mara the Mitumba bale has torn clothes,shoes not similar,price up and down....very unustainable,ladies who used to do it back in the 1980s and 1990s became gikomba prostitutes to feed their families while men became drunkards..i saw many broken homes from gikomba tradeds while factory employees had strong family units because of sustainable income while they could also manage to educate their children through loans unlike gikomba traders.

I rather work in epz athi river and earn 20k than be a gikomba TRADER.SAVAGERY.

I did it years back.Its hell.

[RV Pundit]

It has to start with growing BT cotton - that GMO cotton - is what will start value chain for textile and animal feeds.
This Ruto has taken a bold move - BT cotton is now a reality.
Otherwise it will be same - importing rolls of finished - then stacking it up.
Mitumba is great for lower class - who can buy clothes for 100 bob.
So why ban? Why dont new clothes compete?
Let slum dwellers and poor people wear mitumba.

The more choice the better...

Until such a time we are growing tonnes of cotton.

Mitumba should be banned...we need to have local textile companies supplied by local cotton growers..most of these Mitumba people will be absorbed in that value chain...GOVERMENT can also train and sub contract Mitumba sellers with textile machines to work from their homes and supply apparels with certain set standards.

I just wonder how these Mitumba people survive...mara the Mitumba bale has torn clothes,shoes not similar,price up and down....very unustainable,ladies who used to do it back in the 1980s and 1990s became gikomba prostitutes to feed their families while men became drunkards..i saw many broken homes from gikomba tradeds while factory employees had strong family units because of sustainable income while they could also manage to educate their children through loans unlike gikomba traders.

I rather work in epz athi river and earn 20k than be a gikomba TRADER.SAVAGERY.

I did it years back.Its hell.

[hk]

Kenya labor cost is high for sweatshop jobs. The only solution is to increase productivity per worker or move up the value chain . L wakiki the turkish company with several branches in kenya, their clothes are made in Turkey. The catch is they own their brands.

[RV Pundit]

What if we lowered minimum wage - lock up atwoli. I know this minimum wage this has forced tea companies to bring in machines. I know in many places outside main cities - people are willing to work for less than minimum wage.

What if we let Kshs to weaken?

All in all - this to me point to SEZ - special zone where we can set all the optimum conditions - like Shenzen did - and Lamu is ideal - we set up mini sweatjobs - if you're willing to work for slave wages go for it - no kenya laws apply. This is what China did.

That port will be useless anyway as idle like Isiolo port - so hive out 50,000 acres around it - give it to Chinese/Veitname/Bangladesh - whoever wants - let investors get diplomatic passports - let them do whatever they want - as long as they grow our exports and provide millions of jobs. Nothing more.

Kenya labor cost is high for sweatshop jobs. The only solution is to increase productivity per worker or move up the value chain . L wakiki the turkish company with several branches in kenya, their clothes are made in Turkey. The catch is they own their brands.

[RV Pundit]

[RV Pundit]

From Ndii - focus seem to be grow BT Cotton

[Njuri Ncheke]

Kuria has the right focus,we need produce cheap clothes locally,key is GM cotton and other technology,we can easily be like asian countries that produce clothes for the world  have EPZ laying idle.