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Processed Milk consumption is driven by urbanization and Kenyan tea drinking culture.  DRC especially Kinshasa, the biggest city in africa is a huge market. That's a ripe market that our dairies can export to. What I have never understood is why milk prices for consumer and farmers don't vary by dairies, its like there's price control.

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Processed now has gone up to 800m litres..all sell at same price dictated by brookside..kcc need to be rebuilt nationwide so they can move to export market of powder, cheese and such...use EAC to move to Kinshasa and west African

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Processed now has gone up to 800m litres..all sell at same price dictated by brookside..kcc need to be rebuilt nationwide so they can move to export market of powder, cheese and such...use EAC to move to Kinshasa and west African
How about privatizing KCC fully, with the capital raised, kcc can invest in new products and expansion.

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yes it be privatized to farmers cooperative as per it original vision..ktda model...not what moi had done to it before kibaki bought it back... ownership should be through saccos...so it needs to be sold exclusively to farm saccos...each sacco buy a processing plant...but they all operate under one brand...Dandora one become the national powder milk thing.What will make it competitive is one brand...so farmers concentrate on feeding, milking and basic processing .KTDA model works.KCC needs to start going international .My parents owned shares in old kcc...it need to be returned back to it's original vision

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yes it be privatized to farmers cooperative as per it original vision..ktda model...not what moi had done to it before kibaki bought it back... ownership should be through saccos...so it needs to be sold exclusively to farm saccos...each sacco buy a processing plant...but they all operate under one brand...Dandora one become the national powder milk thing.What will make it competitive is one brand...so farmers concentrate on feeding, milking and basic processing .KTDA model works.KCC needs to start going international .My parents owned shares in old kcc...it need to be returned back to it's original vision
If it were solely to be owned by farmers, it'd bedeviled by the same problems ktda is experiencing in value addition. KCC can borrow from fonterra model; different class shareholding, for farmers and other shareholders.

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Yes - India has good one too - Amul - which is run by cooperatives - and has locked the 1 billion Indian market from Danones and other european milk exporters. KCC is ahead brand wise - but it need to focus on export. The same with KTDA. It can not depend on KETEPA. They need to do their own....branding in each factory.

KTDA should aim to buy Lipton Tea brand from the new owners - they can easily raise the money. Uniliver sold the tea business for  ekaterra for 4.5B dollars. I am sure they would sell their Lipton Tea brand easily


If it were solely to be owned by farmers, it'd bedeviled by the same problems ktda is experiencing in value addition. KCC can borrow from fonterra model; different class shareholding, for farmers and other shareholders.

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Fonterra cant work. This same model in Europe with few large farmers producing tonnes of milk. We have to go for AMUL model.
France have like 10K farmers producing serious milk - and so does Fonterra in new zealand.

Kenya is more fragmented like India - really small farms of 1-2 cows - not large farms. This is why cooperatives have to aggregate those small farms first - then the cooperatives own KCC.