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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2022, 12:42:25 AM »

Since the begining of the special operation we have always been told how Ukraine is winning so how come now Russia is retreating if Ukraine were holding onto their positions. Dont you think something is not adding up.
Bro Njuri I have always been consistent with truth . You can attest to this. I can tell you for free in Kharkhov/Kharhiv Ukrainian forces did advance in the 4 oblasts which Have joined Russia its just Western Propaganda .


Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed

Offline Georgesoros

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2022, 03:23:58 AM »
So if they cut oil production, next comes a worldwide recession, wont China et al lose the most?  Don't they depend a lot on exports? I don't get it.
Europe will freeze but that will only last 4 mos. Developing world will suffer the most.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2022, 03:27:15 AM »
Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed

Am surprised you read his posts.
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2022, 09:50:22 AM »
Exactly to the point.

Some people here busy telling us how Russia will soon come out big. Game is over. Russia should have captured Kyiv in the first 4 weeks and broken the moral of the Ukranians. Now Ukraine is highly motivated and its allies seeing that it is worth it to arm the Ukranians.

Never attack anyone at their home. They will fight to death.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2022, 09:54:43 AM »
I do too read his post and have been trying to have our brother come back to reality.

Ukranians have a lot to loose and will fight to the end. Russian soldiers are totally clueless of what they are fighting for in Ukraine.

Am surprised you read his posts. :D :D :D
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2022, 10:21:18 AM »
Did you just turn 18?
So if they cut oil production, next comes a worldwide recession, ...
Is this the first time you are hearing of a cut in oil production? OPEC cuts production all the time as a strategy to stabilize oil prices whenever they fall below a threshold. The OPEC club made up of 15 countries are always careful not to upset markets. As some member here already pointed out, 2M barrels is only 2% world production. It won't hurt the oil producing exports. That reduction in production is more than made up when the 98% costs more. The 15 nations that are a member of OPEC own over 81.5% of the world's oil reserves. They won't shoot themselves in the foot.
See there is a difference, if a resource isn't available on the market it won't matter even if you have the money. On the other hand, if it is albeit in reduced quantities, and it is a necessity, and you have cash at hand, you will pay more for it. Economics 101.
Don't they depend a lot on exports? I don't get it.
When I was in primary school, my geography teacher always reminded us that fossil fuels were not sustainable and one day will run out. Oil producing countries know these and have for years embarked on projects to diversify exports so as we speak and with an eye on the future Oil countries are weaning off dependence on oil and doing other things for a livelihood other than just oil. If you "don't get it" go ask for a refund from your primary school
Europe will freeze but that will only last 4 mos.....
Of greatest concern is keeping warm in Winter. Europe/America uses Natural gas for that not oil. The main exporter of Natural gas in EurAsia is Russia. They have weaponized it against Europe and are hell bent on cutting off supply because of the matter in Ukraine. Europe is scrambling to see where they can get alternative supply before Winter sets in. Despite best efforts, at the last check Europe still need the 9% from Russia.
Wont China et al lose the most? .... Developing world will suffer the most.
True Developing countries get affected most because a more costly product eats into their meagre foreign exchange reserve unlike China who will take the higher prices in stride coz their economy can absorb the small hike. But then again as OPEC points out, ask developing Governments to look into the high taxes and partner with OPEC in developing renewable sources.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2022, 10:44:18 AM »
Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Indeed Moscow has todate not figured out how to counter the HIMARS menace. Out of 16 HIMARS systems sent to Ukraine they have not captured nor destroyed a single one. Without a sample how where do they start? Instead it is said the top commanders have opted to stay at least 50 miles from the front line to stay out of HIMARS range leaving front line troops under direct command of junior officers and supply lines over-extended. Moscow slowly finding out they are in a war against opponents highly motivated and with superior firepower and resources.
But that is as far as I gree with you @Njuri. Ukraine's limit will be to get its 1991 borders back without fear of having their gains reversed. They could have gone knocking at Moscow if Russia didn't have nukes. History is littered with victories in conflict by smaller nation. Look up the definition of War of attrition. Vietnam prevailed against US, Afghanistan prevailed against separate conflicts against both Russia and the US all through fighting back via wars of attrition. If you define The Mau Mau uprising as a war of liberation from British rule then this too was a war of attrition because in the end the British left after coming to grips with the scale of the insurgency.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2022, 11:05:37 AM »
Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2022, 11:19:43 AM »
Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2022, 01:02:09 PM »
Keep on dreaming.

Btw, do you think a collapsed European economy is in China's interests?

Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse :o.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2022, 01:45:21 PM »

Actually its the High-speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM) which has impacted on Russias Air Defence system.
Just like all wars in a matter of weeks Russia will get a solution to overcome the HARM .
HIMARS was not that effective with Russian Radar system playing a critical role.
HARM is forcing Russians to switch off their radar system . Making Ukraine use their drones and missiles without any interuption.
A solution is in the making. Remember Hitler had better machinery at start of WWII but by the end of the war his machinery had been aped and U.S.S.R. had better and more effective machinery. Once the HARM is captured they will ape the same technology and use it against Ukraine .
Its very well known Ukraine is using Western  satellites in the war . This is where Russia need to decide how to go about it without dragging other countries in the conflict. Putin had indicated anything in Ukraine is a fair game to them . Even Satellite waves should be fair game.


Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Indeed Moscow has todate not figured out how to counter the HIMARS menace. Out of 16 HIMARS systems sent to Ukraine they have not captured nor destroyed a single one. Without a sample how where do they start? Instead it is said the top commanders have opted to stay at least 50 miles from the front line to stay out of HIMARS range leaving front line troops under direct command of junior officers and supply lines over-extended. Moscow slowly finding out they are in a war against opponents highly motivated and with superior firepower and resources.
But that is as far as I gree with you @Njuri. Ukraine's limit will be to get its 1991 borders back without fear of having their gains reversed. They could have gone knocking at Moscow if Russia didn't have nukes. History is littered with victories in conflict by smaller nation. Look up the definition of War of attrition. Vietnam prevailed against US, Afghanistan prevailed against separate conflicts against both Russia and the US all through fighting back via wars of attrition. If you define The Mau Mau uprising as a war of liberation from British rule then this too was a war of attrition because in the end the British left after coming to grips with the scale of the insurgency.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2022, 01:55:39 PM »

Russians are fighting to prevent NATO ever attacking it. If Putin had not started the special military operation . In 10 years NATO would have initiated a war against Crimea essentialy direct conflict with Russia and redo what they did in U.S.S.R. Russia is Federation of more than 20+ Republics . Meaning from Russia there would be 20+ new nations. More business opportunities for Military Industry complex as those 20+ nations would try to join NATO to fend itself from Russia and in doing so buy military equipment from NATO countries. Basically there would be more 20+ Ukraine trying to Join NATO and EU. Furthermore those 20+ republics are very wealthy in mineral gas and oil actually majority of Russian exports come from those 20 + republics.
Having said that I dont expect people brainwashed by Western Media to understand what is happening in Ukraine. Same way you have never understood why Majority of Africa is French speaking Nations and are always having Coups or Civil war.
You need to tell us where Ukraine as a nation came from and why in 1991. Most of the people fighting were born in U.S.S.R. their passports bears place of Birth as U.S.S.R. but you are here telling us Ukraine are fighting for Survival.


Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed

Am surprised you read his posts.
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2022, 04:26:58 PM »
Echoing Western Media. people need to reduce the addiction of Western Media Kool aid.


Exactly to the point.

Some people here busy telling us how Russia will soon come out big. Game is over. Russia should have captured Kyiv in the first 4 weeks and broken the moral of the Ukranians. Now Ukraine is highly motivated and its allies seeing that it is worth it to arm the Ukranians.

Never attack anyone at their home. They will fight to death.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2022, 04:29:22 PM »

i dont take you guys seriously same guys who were yapping Raila will win 2022 elections. Same people saying Ukraine is winning.
Who would you belive the person who predicted Ruto will win or person who predicted Raila will win.

I do too read his post and have been trying to have our brother come back to reality.

Ukranians have a lot to loose and will fight to the end. Russian soldiers are totally clueless of what they are fighting for in Ukraine.

Am surprised you read his posts. :D :D :D
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2022, 04:37:06 PM »
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2022, 04:38:56 PM »
So which media apart from RT do you echo?

Echoing Western Media :o. people need to reduce the addiction of Western Media Kool aid.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2022, 04:39:28 PM »
Keep on dreaming.

Btw, do you think a collapsed European economy is in China's interests?

Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse :o.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2022, 04:45:22 PM »
Nowy...., Putin turns 70 tomorrow. Do you have your invitation card? Sure he thinks positive of such a fanatic disciple.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2022, 04:54:31 PM »
They will get curse elsewhere including fraking their own gas if need be.
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.

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Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2022, 05:03:04 PM »
A feat they could achieve since the end of World War 2 in 1945.


They will get curse elsewhere including fraking their own gas if need be.
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.