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Ruto address in parliament
« on: September 29, 2022, 03:52:11 PM »
- Treasury PPP - unit to develop water purchase agreement - achieve water for all in less than a decade.

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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2022, 03:52:34 PM »
- Electricity - small cooperatives for electricity generation or distribution

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2022, 03:56:24 PM »
- NHIF due for major restructuring

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2022, 03:56:43 PM »
- Ruto has asked for trimming of budget by 300B

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2022, 03:57:10 PM »
- Ruto will reduce the budget so by 3rd year we have surplus (on recurrent expenditure)

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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2022, 03:57:51 PM »
- Taxation model to change....last will be traders.

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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2022, 04:05:54 PM »
Standing ovation - short and clear speech.

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2022, 04:09:54 PM »
- Chebukati gets a cheer and a jeer.

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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2022, 04:24:34 PM »
I don't see how privatising water can work. Kenyans are still too poor to pay for that. They can barely afford to pay for food.

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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2022, 04:25:29 PM »
That is crazy logic. Right now kenya are buying water from water vendors.Kenyans are buying water tanks worth millions to tap rainwater. Kenyans right now are drilling boreholes to drink water not ideal for humans. Kenyans have bought water pumps - and irrigation equipment to do their own water supply.

This not new money that will be needed - there is PENT UP EFFECTIVE DEMAND FOR WATER.

Nairobi alone - there is huge demand for water - donkeys, carts, bicycles - in almost every estate sell water - for 20shs a jerrican. Expensive, dirty and dangerous water is getting bought.

I don't see how privatising water can work. Kenyans are still too poor to pay for that. They can barely afford to pay for food.

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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2022, 04:29:28 PM »
I see Ogolla was absent or not acknowledged by Wetangula.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2022, 04:29:55 PM »
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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2022, 04:38:16 PM »
That is crazy logic. Right now kenya are buying water from water vendors.Kenyans are buying water tanks worth millions to tap rainwater. Kenyans right now are drilling boreholes to drink water not ideal for humans. Kenyans have bought water pumps - and irrigation equipment to do their own water supply.

This not new money that will be needed - there is PENT UP EFFECTIVE DEMAND FOR WATER.

Nairobi alone - there is huge demand for water - donkeys, carts, bicycles - in almost every estate sell water - for 20shs a jerrican. Expensive, dirty and dangerous water is getting bought.

I don't see how privatising water can work. Kenyans are still too poor to pay for that. They can barely afford to pay for food.

A majority of Kenyans are buying as little water as possible and it's mainly just for drinking or cooking not for washing (which is why so many smell bad) in other countries I think water is highly subsidized by the government. Why can't the GOK do that until the country achieves middle income status?

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2022, 04:43:58 PM »
Nairobi Water plus sewer is subsidised - comes to as low as 100-300 per connected household per month. For those unconnected in slums, small hotels, salons they spend at least 100 per day. It is such an injustice to the poor. The hasora revolution was no joke. There are real issues.

That is crazy logic. Right now kenya are buying water from water vendors.Kenyans are buying water tanks worth millions to tap rainwater. Kenyans right now are drilling boreholes to drink water not ideal for humans. Kenyans have bought water pumps - and irrigation equipment to do their own water supply.

This not new money that will be needed - there is PENT UP EFFECTIVE DEMAND FOR WATER.

Nairobi alone - there is huge demand for water - donkeys, carts, bicycles - in almost every estate sell water - for 20shs a jerrican. Expensive, dirty and dangerous water is getting bought.

I don't see how privatising water can work. Kenyans are still too poor to pay for that. They can barely afford to pay for food.

A majority of Kenyans are buying as little water as possible and it's mainly just for drinking or cooking not for washing (which is why so many smell bad) in other countries I think water is highly subsidized by the government. Why can't the GOK do that until the country achieves middle income status?
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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2022, 04:47:02 PM »
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Yes, Ruto is a peace, justice, and integrity guru; as such, he will change Kenya in the next 2-4 years. He has been an honest broker all his life. A guy who never cuts shortcuts works hard than everybody, uses time wisely, prays, and wants and strives to be the winner among peers. He will make Paul Kagames, Suluhus, Ramaphosas, and most Presidents look like idiots.
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Re: Ruto address in parliament
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2022, 04:48:02 PM »
Ruto maiden speech to parliament - Kenya transformation just got underway.
Key Highlights.
1) Budget cut of 3B dollars this year . Further deep cuts next year budget.
2) Budget surplus over recurrent expenditure on the 3rd year.
3) Borrowing has come to stop.Gov shall never borrow again to finance recurrent expenditure. Development will come from savings & PPPs.
4) Kenya will roll out Water PPP similar to electricity PPPs where private companies(like IPPS in power sector) build water dams - and sign long term purchase agreement with water supply companies owned by gov & counties. 10yrs we will have universal piped water - from around 35% of household who enjoy piped water now. Kenya has largely fixed the electricity supply problem using similar model - cost still an issue.
5) Housing sector - developers will be given free land and tax subsidies - plus many economic of scales - to bring 250K housing units annually - and increase mortgages from 30K to 1M in 5yrs.
6) With reduce domestic borrowing to gov - Banks will now be forced to hawk loans on streets. Cost of borrowing for MSME - and bottom pyramid to come down - and gov will use fintech to deploy hustler funds.
7) Universal healthcare through complusory primary health insurance for everyone.
cool GoK will dramatically increase savings and pension by matching 2:1 private and public sector pensions funds.
9) Ruto gov will never subsidize consumption - only production.
10) KRA will be turn to Kenya Revenue Services - and through tech & tax remodel - will collect 30B dollars from current 20B dollars.
11) Judiciary will be funded to build courts all over kenya and hire judges to reduce backlog and entrench the rule of law.

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2022, 04:49:28 PM »
100shs and it gives them dysentery - its double whammy - for the poorest. Kenya problems REQUIRE THINKING. It doesnt require money. Its just require locking people who can think on a room to SOLVE PROBLEMS CREATIVELY. Many of our problems dont need money.
Nairobi Water plus sewer is subsidised - comes to as low as 100-300 per connected household per month. For those unconnected in slums, small hotels, salons they spend at least 100 per day. It is such an injustice to the poor. The hasora revolution was no joke. There are real issues.

That is crazy logic. Right now kenya are buying water from water vendors.Kenyans are buying water tanks worth millions to tap rainwater. Kenyans right now are drilling boreholes to drink water not ideal for humans. Kenyans have bought water pumps - and irrigation equipment to do their own water supply.

This not new money that will be needed - there is PENT UP EFFECTIVE DEMAND FOR WATER.

Nairobi alone - there is huge demand for water - donkeys, carts, bicycles - in almost every estate sell water - for 20shs a jerrican. Expensive, dirty and dangerous water is getting bought.

I don't see how privatising water can work. Kenyans are still too poor to pay for that. They can barely afford to pay for food.

A majority of Kenyans are buying as little water as possible and it's mainly just for drinking or cooking not for washing (which is why so many smell bad) in other countries I think water is highly subsidized by the government. Why can't the GOK do that until the country achieves middle income status?

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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2022, 04:51:59 PM »
Let wait for the maths. The thing is gok investing in dams we have seen problems - corruption and etc. Private sector can deliver them cheaply.  Water will not be expensive just because it's private sector. Gok will assist developers with permits, land access, and such thing.

Again one hopes the purchase agreement - will look at cost - so private companies have ROI and you also get clean water - as these companies will not be selling to consumers directly - but to gov owned water companies.


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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2022, 04:53:13 PM »
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Kenya has largely fixed the electricity supply problem using similar model - cost still an issue.

Ndii talked about this issue with the last mile electricity connections (people had the electricity but couldn't pay for the rates) won't the same thing happen with piped water? I'm not sure what Ndii's solution was for this extremely low level of income where again a majority of the population can barely afford to pay for 3 square meals a day.

How do you address the income issue?

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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2022, 04:56:01 PM »
Some problems are nice to have. Like 10 people in village struggling to purchase electricity when 70 others are doing fine. We have moved electricity access very rapidly.

Again we start with access - get you the pipe, the wire, the road.

Then we deal with cost - hopefully over time their incomes increases - and they can afford it.

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Kenya has largely fixed the electricity supply problem using similar model - cost still an issue.

Ndii talked about this issue with the last mile electricity connections (people had the electricity but couldn't pay for the rates) won't the same thing happen with piped water? I'm not sure what Ndii's solution was for this extremely low level of income where again a majority of the population can barely afford to pay for 3 square meals a day.

How do you address the income issue?