Ferguson riots...US has had it coming

[RV Pundit]

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The black anger has been bubbling over police discrimination and racism that has seen near 1 in 10 blacks in US spent time in jail.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If you've seen the video clip of Mike Brown's behavior in that convenience store.  You want to believe the officer.  Even if he might be embellishing on some level. 

This gentle giant Negro felt invincible and untouchable.  I am having trouble feeling sorry for him.  He was in all likelihood going to get killed in the next few years by a brother.  Or kill someone and brag about it for that matter. 

That is not to say he deserved to be shot.  Unless he was threatening enough.  Which I feel he was.

Still one can agree with the grand jury without denying the problem in Ferguson.  How the the place barely has a black cop is an indictment of racism.

The interesting thing about such places.  There is a dynamic of mistrust that exists between cops and the population that can easily lead to such confrontations.

The cops have a certain fixed view of the population and vice versa.  Something that makes an encounter like Mike Brown's very easy to escalate, even when it could have easily been contained.

I hate to agree with RVHH.  But in this case.  Even after having robbed a store.  Mike Brown would still be alive if he had behaved like he had an IQ of above 60.  Even a racist cop wants some probable cause before he shoots a black man.

[Georgesoros]

If you have ever interacted with a native black person from a purely black neighborhood you will be very surprised. Its a completely different culture.

[RV Pundit]

White generally fear blacks...so if most cops are white in black neighberhood..they are going to overreact. Generally people need to be policed by people like them. This i think is one reason why our cops in kenya do not make any headway. You take someone who understands terrain and culture of north eastern and dumps him in Nairobi slums...and take a Nairobi bred cop..and dumps him in North Eastern. Both of them are alien to their enviroment and totally clueless. After 9 months training...the guy is suppose to work everywhere. Such a joke.

[Georgesoros]

Pundit
You got it.
A slum kid understands slum culture
Send bsringo police to police baringo

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Pundit
You got it.
A slum kid understands slum culture
Send bsringo police to police baringo

Policing should indeed be done by people who are part of the local community.  In the US, with exceptions like Ferguson, for the most part that is the situation. 

Having looked a bit more at the details of the Mike Brown case.  The officer should at the very least face charges of manslaughter. 

The prosecutor set out to bias the outcome in favor of the cop.  The cop even presented exculpatory evidence in front of the grand jury. 

The only reason he went the grand jury route was to present evidence against the victim.  Something that goes goes entirely against tradition and the purpose of a grand jury.

I am no longer sure Mike Brown could have done anything, apart from killing the cop first, to save himself.  Which goes back to the messed up dynamics of the policing situation in Ferguson.

[RV Pundit]

I think the bigger issues for me is the fact this seem like a trend; white cop on black kid; white jury against a black kid; white prosecutors against a black kid; and you have a situation where blacks in US constitute more than half the prisoners and yet are barely 10% of the population.

Policing should indeed be done by people who are part of the local community.  In the US, with exceptions like Ferguson, for the most part that is the situation. 

Having looked a bit more at the details of the Mike Brown case.  The officer should at the very least face charges of manslaughter. 

The prosecutor set out to bias the outcome in favor of the cop.  The cop even presented exculpatory evidence in front of the grand jury. 

The only reason he went the grand jury route was to present evidence against the victim.  Something that goes goes entirely against tradition and the purpose of a grand jury.

I am no longer sure Mike Brown could have done anything, apart from killing the cop first, to save himself.  Which goes back to the messed up dynamics of the policing situation in Ferguson.

[Georgesoros]

Unfortunately its the law. Cops are given leeway in the law. They argue that they should not be second guessed because their lives may be in danger at that moment. I was listening to one of the law professors and she argued that unless the law is changed, cops will always get the upper hand. In this case, the kid was also fighting with the cop, and even if he was unarmed the law is against him. Unless congress changes the law its the same. With the current congress, nobody gives a damn. Also most blacks are so lazy to vote that they have no say in the way things are run.

I think the bigger issues for me is the fact this seem like a trend; white cop on black kid; white jury against a black kid; white prosecutors against a black kid; and you have a situation where blacks in US constitute more than half the prisoners and yet are barely 10% of the population.

Policing should indeed be done by people who are part of the local community.  In the US, with exceptions like Ferguson, for the most part that is the situation. 

Having looked a bit more at the details of the Mike Brown case.  The officer should at the very least face charges of manslaughter. 

The prosecutor set out to bias the outcome in favor of the cop.  The cop even presented exculpatory evidence in front of the grand jury. 

The only reason he went the grand jury route was to present evidence against the victim.  Something that goes goes entirely against tradition and the purpose of a grand jury.

I am no longer sure Mike Brown could have done anything, apart from killing the cop first, to save himself.  Which goes back to the messed up dynamics of the policing situation in Ferguson.

[RV Pundit]

Can't this not be done on state level? In the meantime blacks and latinos need to react (overreact) to any injustice until the white realize this cant go on like civil rights movement of 60s.

Unfortunately its the law. Cops are given leeway in the law. They argue that they should not be second guessed because their lives may be in danger at that moment. I was listening to one of the law professors and she argued that unless the law is changed, cops will always get the upper hand. In this case, the kid was also fighting with the cop, and even if he was unarmed the law is against him. Unless congress changes the law its the same. With the current congress, nobody gives a damn. Also most blacks are so lazy to vote that they have no say in the way things are run.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

I think the bigger issues for me is the fact this seem like a trend; white cop on black kid; white jury against a black kid; white prosecutors against a black kid; and you have a situation where blacks in US constitute more than half the prisoners and yet are barely 10% of the population.

Policing should indeed be done by people who are part of the local community.  In the US, with exceptions like Ferguson, for the most part that is the situation. 

Having looked a bit more at the details of the Mike Brown case.  The officer should at the very least face charges of manslaughter. 

The prosecutor set out to bias the outcome in favor of the cop.  The cop even presented exculpatory evidence in front of the grand jury. 

The only reason he went the grand jury route was to present evidence against the victim.  Something that goes goes entirely against tradition and the purpose of a grand jury.

I am no longer sure Mike Brown could have done anything, apart from killing the cop first, to save himself.  Which goes back to the messed up dynamics of the policing situation in Ferguson.

There is a bias against blacks.  They are over-represented in crime, but 50% is too high.  Off the top of my head I would say between 20% and 25% prisoners would be a correct reflection of their share of crime.

Part of the problem is they can't afford proper representation in court.  If you have money, you can walk away from some serious crimes while a poor guy with a misdemeanor pays a hefty price.

[RV Pundit]

Windy City,
It more serious than you think ..esp for black males.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males

[Georgesoros]

Read this.
Pundit, its more of a class issue than race, although race has a component in it. The media plays it as a race issue. There is a completely different culture in the majority black communities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/us/ferguson-experts-weigh-darren-wilsons-decisions-leading-to-fatal-shooting-of-michael-brown.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Windy City,
It more serious than you think ..esp for black males.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males

That's exactly what I am saying.  They take up a bigger share of spots in prison than they deserve.  In reality they are over-represented in crime.  But they are also overrepresented in prison in numbers exceeding their real share of the crime.

Parkerpen mentions class.  That is true to some extent.  It's a combustible mix of both.  The poor among blacks are going to get the short end.  But the better off will fare better.  But they are likely to get the shorter end compared to whites in their same class. 

I believe the real difference maker are the police.  They have the discretion to decide who to arrest, or even kill, and who gets off with a polite warning.

How many Negroes do you think will survive a minute behaving like this nutcase?

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Same county.  Same prosecutor. 

Officer Dawon Gore struck a MetroLink passenger on his hand with a baton.  I believe he later gave the passenger a ride home.

He is suspended without pay.  Charged with felony assault.  He could face upto 7 years in prison.  Dawon Gore happens to be black.

Dawon Gore, a 13-year veteran of the St. Louis County Police Department is being charged with felony second-degree assault after striking a MetroLink passenger on the hand with his expandable baton after an argument at the Hanley Road station in Clayton this past April.

http://newpittsburghcourieronline.com/2014/11/26/black-st-louis-police-officer-charged-after-striking-metrolink-passenger-on-the-hand/

[Georgesoros]

this is more do with whether the police who respond have egos or not. This police did not have egos. they assessed the situation and de escalated it. They did not have to do it but they did. All depends on the first officer on the scene.

Windy City,
It more serious than you think ..esp for black males.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males

That's exactly what I am saying.  They take up a bigger share of spots in prison than they deserve.  In reality they are over-represented in crime.  But they are also overrepresented in prison in numbers exceeding their real share of the crime.

Parkerpen mentions class.  That is true to some extent.  It's a combustible mix of both.  The poor among blacks are going to get the short end.  But the better off will fare better.  But they are likely to get the shorter end compared to whites in their same class. 

I believe the real difference maker are the police.  They have the discretion to decide who to arrest, or even kill, and who gets off with a polite warning.

How many Negroes do you think will survive a minute behaving like this nutcase?