Author Topic: Azimio presidential petition superthread (Read 40212 times)

RV Pundit · « **Reply #180 on:** August 30, 2022, 05:05:26 PM »

Quote from: Higgins the genius on August 30, 2022, 05:00:45 PM

What was the order on who to represent IEBC?

Mwilu read her confusing things...I think Prof githu team continue

Dear Mami · « **Reply #181 on:** August 30, 2022, 05:09:13 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 30, 2022, 05:05:26 PM

Quote from: Higgins the genius on August 30, 2022, 05:00:45 PM
What was the order on who to represent IEBC?
Mwilu read her confusing things...I think Prof githu team continue

You're right. It's Githu. I wish they had given us the reasoning though. She seemed to use who filed first and was served etc and says the Court won't be drawn into IEBC drama, they go sort it. Basically.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #182 on:** August 30, 2022, 05:11:44 PM »

It was confusing... because they denied Isaac application to act for IEBC while claiming it was internal matter.https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-08-30-not-our-mandate-to-determine-real-iebc-lawyers-supreme-court/

gout · « **Reply #183 on:** August 30, 2022, 05:14:29 PM »

The bench seems obtuse. Now with two slow women at the helm. The men can't outshine them. Even when Maraga was elaborate on scrutiny, they don't seem to have brushed up on his ruling.

While good to calm tensions, I expect little contribution to electoral jurisprudence.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #184 on:** August 30, 2022, 05:21:22 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/OliverMathenge/status/1564608728711761920

audacityofhope · « **Reply #185 on:** August 30, 2022, 08:34:04 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 30, 2022, 05:21:22 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/OliverMathenge/status/1564608728711761920

Go mislead people on Twitter, not here. Oliver Mathenge is a dye in the wool UDA. He is pandering to his fan base people like you. Read the comments on that tweet to get the correct position. Nkt

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Philomena Mwilu, Deputy Chief Justice: The notice of appointment filed by Issa and Kamau Company Advocates is struck out. The four commissoners are at liberty to deploy and use services of Senior Counsel Paul Muite and Issa Mansur Advocates if they deem it necessary.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #186 on:** August 30, 2022, 09:16:30 PM »

You really have a big chip in your shoulder

IEBC as corporate entity will be represented by Prof Githu and team. IEBC and Chebukati are in same team with Ruto. The Cheroror four are free to get lawyers with Morlo and Gulye to represent them on their individual capacity as IEBC commissioner. The IEBC body corporate will retain the services of Prof Githu. The illegal procurement of legal services by Cheror is just more criminal charges pilling up against them. UDA parliament will shortly process a tribunal and Ruto will remove them before Christmas.

Quote from: audacityofhope on August 30, 2022, 08:34:04 PM

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 30, 2022, 05:21:22 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/OliverMathenge/status/1564608728711761920

Go mislead people on Twitter, not here. Oliver Mathenge is a dye in the wool UDA. He is pandering to his fan base people like you. Read the comments on that tweet to get the correct position. Nkt

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Philomena Mwilu, Deputy Chief Justice: The notice of appointment filed by Issa and Kamau Company Advocates is struck out. The four commissoners are at liberty to deploy and use services of Senior Counsel Paul Muite and Issa Mansur Advocates if they deem it necessary.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #187 on:** August 30, 2022, 09:20:52 PM »

And this is why media is reporting that Chebukati won today - because che-error shenagians were rejected by courts. They are free to represent themselves as commissioners - but not IEBC.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/chebukati-wins-round-one-at-supreme-court-3931452

GeeMail · « **Reply #188 on:** August 30, 2022, 11:23:27 PM »

This is a controversial issue. Mwilu's pronouncement is subject to misinterpretation. Did she rule that the four commissioners cannot be represented at all like Pundit is suggesting? No. She only ruled that SCOK cannot decide for IEBC who represents it. However, she left it open to the four commissioners to choose their own lawyers since they are respondents in the petition. That means you will still be seeing Paul Muite and Issa Mansour tomorrow and the days after. It remains to be seen whether they will speak on behalf of IEBC, because Paul Muite categorically stated he represents the majority of commissioners in IEBC. It was a clever strategy for Orengo to point out early that Muite and Issa Mansour had been locked out of the hall illegitimately. Once again, this theft almost passed.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #189 on:** August 30, 2022, 11:49:16 PM »

Strawman arguments. Isaa Mansour application and response on behalf of IEBC were striken off. In short he cannot represent IEBC - his rogue response on behalf of IEBC (where he supports Raila petition) stand deleted. Prof Githu and group will continue to represent IEBC & Chebukati as Chair & Presidential RO. Supreme court allowed all the 6 other commissiners to appear with their lawyers if they so wish. Che-error and the 3 others can pick individual lawyers or Muite. Mule and Prof Gulye will also appear with their lawyers. Chebukati & IEBC (proper) have been tied - as they should.

Quote from: GeeMail on August 30, 2022, 11:23:27 PM

This is a controversial issue. Mwilu's pronouncement is subject to misinterpretation. Did she rule that the four commissioners cannot be represented at all like Pundit is suggesting? No. She only ruled that SCOK cannot decide for IEBC who represents it. However, she left it open to the four commissioners to choose their own lawyers since they are respondents in the petition. That means you will still be seeing Paul Muite and Issa Mansour tomorrow and the days after. It remains to be seen whether they will speak on behalf of IEBC, because Paul Muite categorically stated he represents the majority of commissioners in IEBC. It was a clever strategy for Orengo to point out early that Muite and Issa Mansour had been locked out of the hall illegitimately. Once again, this theft almost passed.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #190 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:27:18 AM »

Hearing - no head gear - from both bench and bar.

Orengo - rambling on about the constitution, law and legalities.

Sounds like 30 minutes of time wasting.

IEBC - split down the middle - dysfunctional- but want an annualment - how do the supreme court fix IEBC crisis

RV Pundit · « **Reply #191 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:31:33 AM »

Orengo - requirement the president must be receive more than half of votes cast. Ruto did not cast more than half the votes.

I think he is inviting the court to revisit their decision on supreme in 2013 and 2017 - that decided 1) invalid votes are not counted and 2) Ballot cast is not a vote cast

RV Pundit · « **Reply #192 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:37:09 AM »

Orengo - Turnout - going by IEBC public prouncement.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #193 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:38:52 AM »

Ballots arrive at Supreme Court

JUST IN: Mombasa and Nandi polling stations ballot boxes brought ar the Supreme Court. pic.twitter.com/mmUWQzD3kR
— Seth Olale (@SethOlale) August 31, 2022

RV Pundit · « **Reply #194 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:51:27 AM »

Orengo - go through Dr Edgar Otumba stastitical analysis.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #195 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:54:39 AM »

Orengo - go through affidavits - more than 140K - will impact results of election. He is finishing his hour.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #196 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:56:14 AM »

Raila V Ruto:

We have a commission that is divided right in the middle, that speaks to a dysfunctional constitutional body that is not capable of presiding over an election - SC James Orengo

Follow our LIVE coverage here >>> https://t.co/jRssMXcr1s #KenyasChoice2022 pic.twitter.com/oXbbPlo5aL
— Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) August 31, 2022

RV Pundit · « **Reply #197 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:58:04 AM »

Orengo - Ask for nullification. Look like they are no longer pursuing Raila won and should be declared the 5th.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #198 on:** August 31, 2022, 09:58:55 AM »

Now the Soweto girl - Issue no 3,4,5,6 - difference btw Form 34A and Form 34A - issues to the agents.

Evidence contained in Selestine Anyango, Ben Agina and Auma - and Benson Wesonga.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #199 on:** August 31, 2022, 10:00:46 AM »

Anyango - Form 34A - Bomet, Kiambu and Kakamega - evidence is at pages 18-106 - of the affidavit.

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