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Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« on: May 31, 2022, 08:44:07 AM »
Dont cheat the old dude; Luos may never forgive you!

This seem to mirror Mizani big sample sized opinion poll; Ruto is at 80; Raila 15; undecided 5;

Come election day it it will be 80-85 for Ruto - 10-15 for Raila - which is 10 times improvement :) from 2017


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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2022, 08:56:44 AM »
Kameme listeners are uda damu. I am surprised raila is scoring 16%. Coro is where baba supporters are


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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2022, 09:03:36 AM »
How do you segment Raila and Ruto supporters? Economics? Education? or just random?
Kameme listeners are uda damu. I am surprised raila is scoring 16%. Coro is where baba supporters are

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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2022, 09:27:03 AM »
Age, economics, education and socialization

Under 35 are more likely to with ruto. Poor traditional kikuyus who still circumcise women are 90% with ruto. Kids from poor families socialized to hate well to do families are more likely to support ruto.

It is age and social class

There's a big group of Christian extremists supporting uda in Central. These religious bigots are very closeted and will never come out in the open to support ruto

So it is a bit complex. However, the stands are firmed. Raila and ruto have very little juice left to squeeze in Central. Ruto problem now is gachagua loose mouth and gachagua image

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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2022, 10:42:52 AM »
Agreed. Poor, the less educated, the pious, women and the young are more likely to support Ruto. The rich, the educated/professional and older men are still smarting from Moism/Kalenjin quarter century of terror yet distrustful of Odinga/Luos - there are the undecided/likely not to vote/likely to split vote. That explain GEMA politics in two sentences.
Age, economics, education and socialization

Under 35 are more likely to with ruto. Poor traditional kikuyus who still circumcise women are 90% with ruto. Kids from poor families socialized to hate well to do families are more likely to support ruto.

It is age and social class

There's a big group of Christian extremists supporting uda in Central. These religious bigots are very closeted and will never come out in the open to support ruto

So it is a bit complex. However, the stands are firmed. Raila and ruto have very little juice left to squeeze in Central. Ruto problem now is gachagua loose mouth and gachagua image

Yes pretty much. However politics dynamics can change and are changing Martha karua has been biggest momentum gain for raila. We in antimoi camp are chipping away at kalenjin credibility in Central. By June we could peel 5 to 10% off rutos column
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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2022, 02:38:06 AM »
Agreed. Poor, the less educated, the pious, women and the young are more likely to support Ruto. The rich, the educated/professional and older men are still smarting from Moism/Kalenjin quarter century of terror yet distrustful of Odinga/Luos - there are the undecided/likely not to vote/likely to split vote. That explain GEMA politics in two sentences

Yes pretty much. However politics dynamics can change and are changing Martha karua has been biggest momentum gain for raila. We in antimoi camp are chipping away at kalenjin credibility in Central. By June we could peel 5 to 10% off rutos column

Njamba so what's your estimate of the split today? Ruto vs Raila %
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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2022, 03:49:13 AM »
Agreed. Poor, the less educated, the pious, women and the young are more likely to support Ruto. The rich, the educated/professional and older men are still smarting from Moism/Kalenjin quarter century of terror yet distrustful of Odinga/Luos - there are the undecided/likely not to vote/likely to split vote. That explain GEMA politics in two sentences

Yes pretty much. However politics dynamics can change and are changing Martha karua has been biggest momentum gain for raila. We in antimoi camp are chipping away at kalenjin credibility in Central. By June we could peel 5 to 10% off rutos column

Njamba so what's your estimate of the split today? Ruto vs Raila %
40 to 60 at best...ruto with 60%. Voters are dumber than we think. Even my agemates are pro ruto. I realized most have no critical thinking capacity. Since most went to medorce hogh schools and didnt fuetherr their education,cthey have very little ability to analyze critical matters like economic policy. I asked people from my village why they support ruto majority said because of bottom up. I challenged them to give an overview of how the bottom up model would be like I was met with silence. Ruto is going to be next president if votes count but since this is a state coronation affair raila will be the president

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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2022, 04:12:25 AM »
Ruto will get over 80% of GEMA. He is the pesa/uchumi candidate that is why the mountain cannot wait to vote him in. Raila is poverty, incompetence, and more poverty!
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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2022, 04:40:12 AM »
This sums up " Critical thinking " of Raila supporters.
They clearly know GEMA is fully Ruto but wishfuly hope and think Raila will get 40% .Even from their interaction with GEMA friends they know its Kaput . GEMA can never vote for Raila. Then go for the next best option . Elections will be rigged in Railas favor.
The truth is GEMA hatred for Raila is so engrained that it will take centuries to overcome it.
Raila should first apologize to GEMA for mistreating Kibaki and for 2007 P.E.V.  He did apologize to Kalenjins for mistreating Ruto 2008-2012 . In reality he stands a better chance being voted for by Kalenjins in comparison to GEMA.

Agreed. Poor, the less educated, the pious, women and the young are more likely to support Ruto. The rich, the educated/professional and older men are still smarting from Moism/Kalenjin quarter century of terror yet distrustful of Odinga/Luos - there are the undecided/likely not to vote/likely to split vote. That explain GEMA politics in two sentences

Yes pretty much. However politics dynamics can change and are changing Martha karua has been biggest momentum gain for raila. We in antimoi camp are chipping away at kalenjin credibility in Central. By June we could peel 5 to 10% off rutos column

Njamba so what's your estimate of the split today? Ruto vs Raila %
40 to 60 at best...ruto with 60%. Voters are dumber than we think. Even my agemates are pro ruto. I realized most have no critical thinking capacity. Since most went to medorce hogh schools and didnt fuetherr their education,cthey have very little ability to analyze critical matters like economic policy. I asked people from my village why they support ruto majority said because of bottom up. I challenged them to give an overview of how the bottom up model would be like I was met with silence. Ruto is going to be next president if votes count but since this is a state coronation affair raila will be the president

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Re: Njamba bring your kikuyu expertise here - Kanda ya wira
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2022, 06:45:57 AM »
Yes 80 percent for Ruto..20 percent..but without uhuru engagement it will get worse for Raila because people like consensus...and consensus in gema Ruto is the better evil.Raila they know is pretending to be nice while he can hardly conceal his hatchet.With kalenjin nation they know the hatchet is buried and enduring peace for 10yrs a testament of the stability gema nation wants