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Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« on: May 30, 2022, 11:52:44 PM »
Gachagua is the best gift that ruto gifted Raila. It is over for ruto in kiambu. Only few young idiots are support him now.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2022, 12:02:05 AM »
Kiambu need Gachagua.
After Gachagua left pombe has DESTROYED KIAMBU
Kiambu imekwisha
In fact Moi himself took Gachagua to straighten Uhuru.
Ruto forced Uhuru to reduce alcohol
Yeye and Bibi yake ni kama chimney
Sigara na pombe

Kiambu and Mt kenya need GACHAGUA marshal law

Ruto will put him in charge of drug eradication

Kalenjin pia ni pombe and betting addiction.

In my own village every year we lose 3 men to alcohol.
Nearly 80 percent of those who have died - pombe.
Either drowning in the river, getting nasty falls, name it.
Those not death - have nasty injuries - driving nduthis while drunk.

Wengine ni BETTING

Kenya haiwezi endelea hivyo.
Go to Kiambu - nearly every family is dealing with at least two males addicted to alcohol.
Every family.

Mzungu is far because they have VERY VERY STRICT WITH RULES and LAWS

Kibaki too much freedom.

Nairobi streets you can buy heroine or cocaine;
Mombasa is even worst.

Kenya has to choose to become wild wild west or to go Rwanda route of development and disciplined by ENFORCING the law,

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2022, 12:08:25 AM »
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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2022, 06:29:01 AM »
I just had a extensive conversation with a man that was very close to the late Nderitu gachagua who was the dp nominee gachagua's brother. Gachagua mum was a divorcee that was still staying in her husband's land to raise her kids. She went rogue and started getting involved with local politician by the name of kuguru of kuguru industries. She made so much money campaigning for kuguru that she built a palatial home that gachugua the dp nominee inherited and still lives in. Gachagua was not raised poor as he claims. His partenal grandfather was a richman by the standards then. So this kinyangarika ya ruto is hated for being hawkish and uncouth. Nyeri people hate this kind of thugs. He will be rejected even in his own village. People wish his brother was alive. It is thru is brother that he rose to be mp and became influential at county level stealing billions as his brother became indisposed during his final years. Gachagua is rumored to yave killed governor Gakuru. Gakurus wife has info that points to gachagua conspiracy to kill her husband

He told me that the current gachagua is so hated in his locality for his crimes against kikuyus during moi that he used to only visit his mother at night or with convoy of police. The man told me he won't vote for gachagua.

Gachagua is ruto's biggest mistake yet. It is going to cost him millions of votes. Gachagua is a very unlikable person

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2022, 06:37:33 AM »
Sisi Wameru tunaangalia tu,we are waiting for gachagua to

1. Campaign in Molo
2. Campaign in Limuru
 :D :D
All alone as this is mlima territory without Ruto.


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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2022, 06:47:37 AM »
Sisi Wameru tunaangalia tu,we are waiting for gachagua to

1. Campaign in Molo
2. Campaign in Limuru
 :D :D
All alone as this is mlima territory without Ruto.
Limuru, kabete, kiambaa and githunguri are gone. Only young millennials the stupid ones are still supporting ruto presidential candidacy. Independents too now have a chance to try and dislodge uda candidates. I see kiambu electing Mos irrespective of the party. In muranga  if wa iria runs he will siphon some votes out of Ruto's column.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2022, 06:50:13 AM »
Sounds Aziomated and desperate.
1) Gachagua led Kiambaa campaigns  - Kiambaa constitutuency goes all the way to Tigoni - where he was a DO.
2) Gachagua has nothing to do with Molo - was never DO in Molo - dont buy nonsense from Azimio - Gachagua own hotel in Elburgon near Molo and he is frequent there.

Gachagua was DO in Kiambu. He was tapped by Prof Mbithi to become his PA when he was appointed head of civil service. When Mbithi was fired - Gachagua went back to prov administration and was posted to Kakamega. Gachagua later was made PA of Uhuru to help straighten him.

Sisi Wameru tunaangalia tu,we are waiting for gachagua to

1. Campaign in Molo
2. Campaign in Limuru
 :D :D
All alone as this is mlima territory without Ruto.



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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2022, 07:09:27 AM »
The fear of Odinga overrides the discomfort of Gachagua. That is why five years later - billions of money - useless propaganda - Ruto remain even more popular in GEMA.

If Uhuru seriously wanted to stop Ruto - he would have forced Odinga to step down for someone sellable in GEMA. He didnt even try - meaning he is either working for Ruto or is an idiot.

Sell Martha all day but the moment GeMA see Raila picture - they suspend all reasoning - and fear or hatred overcomes them.

Limuru, kabete, kiambaa and githunguri are gone. Only young millennials the stupid ones are still supporting ruto presidential candidacy. Independents too now have a chance to try and dislodge uda candidates. I see kiambu electing Mos irrespective of the party. In muranga  if wa iria runs he will siphon some votes out of Ruto's column.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2022, 07:17:35 AM »
The fear of Odinga overrides the discomfort of Gachagua. That is why five years later - billions of money - useless propaganda - Ruto remain even more popular in GEMA.

If Uhuru seriously wanted to stop Ruto - he would have forced Odinga to step down for someone sellable in GEMA. He didnt even try - meaning he is either working for Ruto or is an idiot.

Sell Martha all day but the moment GeMA see Raila picture - they suspend all reasoning - and fear or hatred overcomes them.

Limuru, kabete, kiambaa and githunguri are gone. Only young millennials the stupid ones are still supporting ruto presidential candidacy. Independents too now have a chance to try and dislodge uda candidates. I see kiambu electing Mos irrespective of the party. In muranga  if wa iria runs he will siphon some votes out of Ruto's column.
Stick to bomet politics and kericho politics . I am an expert in kiambu politics so watch and learn. Njuri is a Meru. He has inside information that you lack to challenge his analysis

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2022, 07:38:00 AM »
Coming from Kiambu doesnt make you an expert in Kiambu politics.
What is an expert? It's someone who can THINK and ANALYZE things.
In your bipolar - yesterday you revealed the thankless job of selling Raila in Kiambu - where you were at '25' percent;
To day in your bipolar - you want to tell us that Raila fortunes have changed.
There are data or indicators that I can listen to - not you!

And to be an expert - you have to be OBJECTIVE - you have divorce your personal feelings - your have to be dispassionate.

Otherwise because I support Raila - then make it look like my village will support Raila :) :) is to fail ab initio.

Stick to bomet politics and kericho politics . I am an expert in kiambu politics so watch and learn. Njuri is a Meru. He has inside information that you lack to challenge his analysis

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2022, 07:46:43 AM »
@Kenyaplato @ Njuricheke

I have always warned you people but you take me from granted.

I hope more of our young people watch that video and see what Gachagua did.

While Gachagua was Maiming his fellow kikuyu,Ruto was cheering Moi who displaced over 500k kikuyu in 1992 and to make matters worse,cheered Raila when over 500k more people were displaced in 2008.

These people maimed and displaced people died,broken homes,men became thieves women prostitutes children became chokoraa a lost generation which filled up slums of Nairobi.

When I remember these atrocities,I WAIL LOUDLY AT NIGHT.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2022, 09:48:15 AM »
@Kenyaplato @ Njuricheke

I have always warned you people but you take me from granted.

I hope more of our young people watch that video and see what Gachagua did.

While Gachagua was Maiming his fellow kikuyu,Ruto was cheering Moi who displaced over 500k kikuyu in 1992 and to make matters worse,cheered Raila when over 500k more people were displaced in 2008.

These people maimed and displaced people died,broken homes,men became thieves women prostitutes children became chokoraa a lost generation which filled up slums of Nairobi.

When I remember these atrocities,I WAIL LOUDLY AT NIGHT.

Warned me as who? I am not anyone to be swayed by euphoria. I go against the grain and stick to what I believe is the right position. You are new to supporting raila. I have supported raila since 2003. I never supported kibaki or uhuru those two idiots are kikuyu supremacists

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2022, 10:00:51 AM »
Raila supporters are trying each and everything to discredit UDA and Ruto , they will fail.
Just watched Kagwanjas interview.He was a student in University with Gachagua the way he described him as a go getter person who maged to squeeze himself where power was reminds me of Ruto.
He said Gachagua was the person who used to take them to meet Moi. He was the person who introduced Kagwanja to Kibaki. In University days he was accustomed to making money that he was already buying large pieces of lands. When they as students in Uni were taking Buses to Mombasa , Gachagua was flying directly there.
Now combine that with what RV has said of Kuguru , I join the dots . Kuguru was Nyeris KANU chairman was super rich that he owned his own breweries and by Late 90s was competing with Cocacola with Softa. His rivarly with Kibaki was his downfall.
Having said that I think Ruto made a mistake in pitting Gachagua vs Kindiki. Rutos popularity in Meru/Tharaka Nithi was ranging at 90%
Unfortunately after the saga it has brought the old rivarly between Merus and Kikuyus. Some Merus now feel entitled and might decide to punish Ruto. His support there is now at 80% He needs to camp there with all Meru politicians lead by Kindiki and preach the language they like hearing which is Raila is their enemy .
It worked in 2017 even after the mess of Miraa. Previously if Miraa was touched Merus would punish you but Uhuru managed to win both Counties albeit by less % than he did in 2013.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2022, 10:48:29 AM »
But why are people not talking about his brother Nderitu Gachagua. That is the guy together with Ibrahim maina and mugoyas made money as Moi cowboy contractors. I believe Gachagua wealth/connection came from his brother. Not Kuguru.

I believe Gachagua big brother - was instrumental in Gachagua rise and wealth creation - he was mostly his proxy - and eventually seem they became co-partners.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/billionaire-with-proverbial-nine-lives-passes-on-365464

Raila supporters are trying each and everything to discredit UDA and Ruto , they will fail.
Just watched Kagwanjas interview.He was a student in University with Gachagua the way he described him as a go getter person who maged to squeeze himself where power was reminds me of Ruto.
He said Gachagua was the person who used to take them to meet Moi. He was the person who introduced Kagwanja to Kibaki. In University days he was accustomed to making money that he was already buying large pieces of lands. When they as students in Uni were taking Buses to Mombasa , Gachagua was flying directly there.
Now combine that with what RV has said of Kuguru , I join the dots . Kuguru was Nyeris KANU chairman was super rich that he owned his own breweries and by Late 90s was competing with Cocacola with Softa. His rivarly with Kibaki was his downfall.
Having said that I think Ruto made a mistake in pitting Gachagua vs Kindiki. Rutos popularity in Meru/Tharaka Nithi was ranging at 90%
Unfortunately after the saga it has brought the old rivarly between Merus and Kikuyus. Some Merus now feel entitled and might decide to punish Ruto. His support there is now at 80% He needs to camp there with all Meru politicians lead by Kindiki and preach the language they like hearing which is Raila is their enemy .
It worked in 2017 even after the mess of Miraa. Previously if Miraa was touched Merus would punish you but Uhuru managed to win both Counties albeit by less % than he did in 2013.


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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2022, 10:58:10 AM »
But why are people not talking about his brother Nderitu Gachagua. That is the guy together with Ibrahim maina and mugoyas made money as Moi cowboy contractors. I believe Gachagua wealth/connection came from his brother. Not Kuguru.

I believe Gachagua big brother - was instrumental in Gachagua rise and wealth creation - he was mostly his proxy - and eventually seem they became co-partners.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/billionaire-with-proverbial-nine-lives-passes-on-365464

Raila supporters are trying each and everything to discredit UDA and Ruto , they will fail.
Just watched Kagwanjas interview.He was a student in University with Gachagua the way he described him as a go getter person who maged to squeeze himself where power was reminds me of Ruto.
He said Gachagua was the person who used to take them to meet Moi. He was the person who introduced Kagwanja to Kibaki. In University days he was accustomed to making money that he was already buying large pieces of lands. When they as students in Uni were taking Buses to Mombasa , Gachagua was flying directly there.
Now combine that with what RV has said of Kuguru , I join the dots . Kuguru was Nyeris KANU chairman was super rich that he owned his own breweries and by Late 90s was competing with Cocacola with Softa. His rivarly with Kibaki was his downfall.
Having said that I think Ruto made a mistake in pitting Gachagua vs Kindiki. Rutos popularity in Meru/Tharaka Nithi was ranging at 90%
Unfortunately after the saga it has brought the old rivarly between Merus and Kikuyus. Some Merus now feel entitled and might decide to punish Ruto. His support there is now at 80% He needs to camp there with all Meru politicians lead by Kindiki and preach the language they like hearing which is Raila is their enemy .
It worked in 2017 even after the mess of Miraa. Previously if Miraa was touched Merus would punish you but Uhuru managed to win both Counties albeit by less % than he did in 2013.


Nderitu was loved by Mathira people. He was very charismatic and not crass like rigithathi. Maina too is a smooth operator. Kibaki hated maina but he needed funding so he had to hold his nose


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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2022, 11:56:25 AM »
I remember drinking in South B - and I met this old kikuyu dude - he was telling me they use to drink with Nderitu Gachagua - and that guy started buy almost half of south b - as he made serious money.

Anyway this Rigathi is perfect anti-dote for Kenyatta empire.

Inscrutable go-getter who knows his way around gov and politics.

He is just un-refined Ruto - he need PR lessons.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2022, 12:17:32 PM »
You do not understand kikuyus. A nyerian can't touch a kiambu dynasty. There is a pecking order. This son of a calico gachagua can't challenge son of ngina

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2022, 02:09:49 PM »
@Kenyaplato @ Njuricheke

I have always warned you people but you take me from granted.

I hope more of our young people watch that video and see what Gachagua did.

While Gachagua was Maiming his fellow kikuyu,Ruto was cheering Moi who displaced over 500k kikuyu in 1992 and to make matters worse,cheered Raila when over 500k more people were displaced in 2008.

These people maimed and displaced people died,broken homes,men became thieves women prostitutes children became chokoraa a lost generation which filled up slums of Nairobi.

When I remember these atrocities,I WAIL LOUDLY AT NIGHT.

Warned me as who? I am not anyone to be swayed by euphoria. I go against the grain and stick to what I believe is the right position. You are new to supporting raila. I have supported raila since 2003. I never supported kibaki or uhuru those two idiots are kikuyu supremacists

RUBBISH.

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Re: Gachagua ni Ngoma ya mundu
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2022, 03:29:37 PM »
Raila supporters are trying each and everything to discredit UDA and Ruto , they will fail.
Just watched Kagwanjas interview.He was a student in University with Gachagua the way he described him as a go getter person who maged to squeeze himself where power was reminds me of Ruto.
He said Gachagua was the person who used to take them to meet Moi. He was the person who introduced Kagwanja to Kibaki. In University days he was accustomed to making money that he was already buying large pieces of lands. When they as students in Uni were taking Buses to Mombasa , Gachagua was flying directly there.
Now combine that with what RV has said of Kuguru , I join the dots . Kuguru was Nyeris KANU chairman was super rich that he owned his own breweries and by Late 90s was competing with Cocacola with Softa. His rivarly with Kibaki was his downfall.
Having said that I think Ruto made a mistake in pitting Gachagua vs Kindiki. Rutos popularity in Meru/Tharaka Nithi was ranging at 90%
Unfortunately after the saga it has brought the old rivarly between Merus and Kikuyus. Some Merus now feel entitled and might decide to punish Ruto. His support there is now at 80% He needs to camp there with all Meru politicians lead by Kindiki and preach the language they like hearing which is Raila is their enemy .
It worked in 2017 even after the mess of Miraa. Previously if Miraa was touched Merus would punish you but Uhuru managed to win both Counties albeit by less % than he did in 2013.
Now who can discredit this information?This is reality 100% Noway knowing of mlima politics is second to none.
Actually there is one thing You used to say that has been confirmed during this time. I was to start a thread about its,in short Mlima Fear of baba is what makes them vote for Ruto you have said that Raila is what unites mlima i used to be a little sceptical but this is very clear now, that's why even after Rutos blunder people in Meru can't fathom voting baba despite the disappointment.
Pundit you need listen to what noways says on mlima.