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Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« on: May 14, 2022, 03:36:53 PM »
Ruto, MaDVD and Kingi need to meet and agree on united front against the dying ODM. Such a frontal attack combined with Sonko entry into Mombasa...will eliminate ODM in Coast region...leaving it only a Luo party.


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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2022, 03:38:51 PM »
If Muthama and Mutua can somehow work together....Machakos - Ruto can get 40 percent - irrespective of where Kalonzo go - with Azimio or alone


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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2022, 03:46:52 PM »
Best of luck,Kingis candidate is polling 10%.Mungaro is next Kilifi gavana.

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2022, 04:31:51 PM »
Hakuna luck - bidii lazima. Aisha looks good - the gap is within margin of error. Kingi and PAA candidate once they agree to do give and take; ODM will be over. Raundi hii mumeshikwa vizuri. Ruto hapana mchezo nani. Bwagu kapata Bwaguzi
Best of luck,Kingis candidate is polling 10%.Mungaro is next Kilifi gavana.

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2022, 04:55:34 PM »
You have been singing this song since 2013 bwana boiyo

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2022, 05:08:05 PM »
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Usual quackery by design aka propaganda. Mutua & Kingi decamped  2 days ago... any poll would reflect that in June earliest.


Please stick to Punditry and stop using Mizani, Kurunzi.. those will be any good in 2027. This fake polls are mean to create false narrative Mutua has any say in Ukambani. But we all know better: the cows & chicken will come home tomorrow or Monday.

If Muthama and Mutua can somehow work together....Machakos - Ruto can get 40 percent - irrespective of where Kalonzo go - with Azimio or alone

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2022, 03:00:43 AM »
 :) Even with Mizani quacks the entire Kwekwe(KK) combo is at 7% in Mombasa - where Mijikenda are 40%  8) 8)

There is a delusion about various tribes rising against the Luo. These are Luhyas, Mijikenda, Kamba, etc. You see the endless cheering of impending anti-Raila uprising cause Wanyonyi sijui nani. Obviously this is akin to speaking from one half of the tongue. The truth of course is the opposite: Kenyans are rising against Kikuyu-Kalenjin duocracy. The map shows Raila is top in 5 vs 2 counties.

Mombasa,
Kingi PAA guy has 1% despite this pipedream... Abdulswamad Nassir of ODM has 40% - Sonko 28%. Azimio non-Mijikenda combo is 70% vs 10% Kwekwe (KK). Wanaota mchana.

Best of luck,Kingis candidate is polling 10%.Mungaro is next Kilifi gavana.
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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2022, 03:06:44 AM »
Actually Ruto has been polling highs of 30s in Machakos in all opinion poll. You must remember that large part of Machakos is now cosmpolitan.
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Usual quackery by design aka propaganda. Mutua & Kingi decamped  2 days ago... any poll would reflect that in June earliest.


Please stick to Punditry and stop using Mizani, Kurunzi.. those will be any good in 2027. This fake polls are mean to create false narrative Mutua has any say in Ukambani. But we all know better: the cows & chicken will come home tomorrow or Monday.

If Muthama and Mutua can somehow work together....Machakos - Ruto can get 40 percent - irrespective of where Kalonzo go - with Azimio or alone


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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2022, 03:07:43 AM »
Selling kikuyu and a Kenyatta in coast was difficult.
Ruto tried 2013 - they were doing 10 percent - that doubled to 25 in 2017.
This time round - Ruto has the window opened.
The next two months - is to open the door and eject Raila's ODM.
Raila is the one selling Kenyatta at the coast :)

Ruto has knocked on Coast, Gusii and Western almost every week.
That is why Ruto is becoming PORK.
Knock and It shall be opened.
If Ruto had just sat and said coast is raila - he would not be walking to PORK.
But now he has national support.
And will make history in winning in his maiden run.
You have been singing this song since 2013 bwana boiyo

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2022, 03:14:25 AM »
Kamba start & end with Kalonzo.. expect him to be unveiled as Executive PM tomorrow at Kamukunji. He will be free to pick his 2 deputies immediately - PK, Oparanya.

The Apr-May "swing" is fake and definitely not Mutua-inspired.

Actually Ruto has been polling highs of 30s in Machakos in all opinion poll. You must remember that large part of Machakos is now cosmpolitan.
:sign0103:

Usual quackery by design aka propaganda. Mutua & Kingi decamped  2 days ago... any poll would reflect that in June earliest.


Please stick to Punditry and stop using Mizani, Kurunzi.. those will be any good in 2027. This fake polls are mean to create false narrative Mutua has any say in Ukambani. But we all know better: the cows & chicken will come home tomorrow or Monday.

If Muthama and Mutua can somehow work together....Machakos - Ruto can get 40 percent - irrespective of where Kalonzo go - with Azimio or alone

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2022, 03:17:55 AM »
Agree on Mutua fake swing.
I will wait for Kalonzo deal.
Raila has hidden in Mombasa.
Kesho he flies direct and names the candidates.
Kalonzo has plan B ready - they are collecting signatures.
Kamba start & end with Kalonzo.. expect him to be unveiled as Executive PM tomorrow at Kamukunji. He will be free to pick his 2 deputies immediately - PK, Oparanya.

The Apr-May "swing" is fake and definitely not Mutua-inspired.

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2022, 03:24:08 AM »
Well we know the de/merits of both candidates, no need to sing about Ruto hard-nosed go-getter bla bla.

Coast, Gusii and Luhya remain stubbornly pro-Raila.. despite Ruto gazillion trips, handouts and promises. It called law of marginal returns - once everyone, their goat and their dog knows Ruto - it means his support long plateau'd. I bet you might hear some villager historically quip: na huyu Yesu, ni ndugu ya Ruto? You have national Ruto fatigue at injury time... very bad strategy.

Selling kikuyu and a Kenyatta in coast was difficult.
Ruto tried 2013 - they were doing 10 percent - that doubled to 25 in 2017.
This time round - Ruto has the window opened.
The next two months - is to open the door and eject Raila's ODM.
Raila is the one selling Kenyatta at the coast :)

Ruto has knocked on Coast, Gusii and Western almost every week.
That is why Ruto is becoming PORK.
Knock and It shall be opened.
If Ruto had just sat and said coast is raila - he would not be walking to PORK.
But now he has national support.
And will make history in winning in his maiden run.
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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2022, 03:26:41 AM »
Ruto strategy is simple (to understand, hard to execute)
Win the critical mass support of the ground
Go for it's leaders last
And seal the deal.
Then you reap.
Bottom up politics.

Uhuru and Raila failure stems from doing the opposite.
Intimidate or bribe the leaders first
Then hope their support cascade through
Top down politics
It very easy to execute.

For example UDA was already more popoular than ODM in coast.
So Ruto is crowing his support
This icing on the cake.
On his own he has is own game - that he has developed for 15yrs.
Now PAA and Kingi are just giving him the LEGITIMACY.

It's just a stamp of approval to the masses that this guy who has been knocking incessantly is a nice guy.

Well we know the de/merits of both candidates, no need to sing about Ruto hard-nosed go-getter bla bla.

Coast, Gusii and Luhya remain stubbornly pro-Raila.. despite Ruto gazillion trips, handouts and promises. It called law of marginal returns - once everyone, their goat and their dog knows Ruto - it means his support long plateau'd. I bet you might hear some villager historically quip: na huyu Yesu, ni ndugu ya Ruto? You have national Ruto fatigue at injury time... very bad strategy.


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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2022, 03:35:36 AM »
As far as I can tell Kalonzo game remains 1)Secure firm 30% 3-leg deal 2)Lock Ukambani solidly Wiper. His boy Wambua appended his signature and handed Raila 3 names - Kalonzo, Karua, PK. But anything is possible.

The most likely big change coming weeks is Luhya. Mdvd seem distant front-runner as running-mate - which obviously comes from Luhya. Expect hammering there about Luhya raw deal once Ruto unveil Gachagua skunk or wishy-washy, charmless, boringg Tharaka dwarf.

Of course contra to this thread there will be nothing seismic in Pwani. PAA guy dismal 1% exposes Kingi & Mvurya as real naked Mijikenda kings. Running to Kwekwe changes nothing.. Most mijikenda will vote Sonko who is Digo mother. I see ati "kill ODM" :) - please talk Azimio. Catch up.

Agree on Mutua fake swing.
I will wait for Kalonzo deal.
Raila has hidden in Mombasa.
Kesho he flies direct and names the candidates.
Kalonzo has plan B ready - they are collecting signatures.
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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2022, 03:44:48 AM »
We meet Monday if you dont disappear to review.
As far as I can tell Kalonzo game remains 1)Secure firm 30% 3-leg deal 2)Lock Ukambani solidly Wiper. His boy Wambua appended his signature and handed Raila 3 names - Kalonzo, Karua, PK. But anything is possible.

The most likely big change coming weeks is Luhya. Mdvd seem distant front-runner as running-mate - which obviously comes from Luhya. Expect hammering there about Luhya raw deal once Ruto unveil Gachagua skunk or wishy-washy, charmless, boringg Tharaka dwarf.

Of course contra to this thread there will be nothing seismic in Pwani. PAA guy dismal 1% exposes Kingi & Mvurya as real naked Mijikenda kings. Running to Kwekwe changes nothing.. Most mijikenda will vote Sonko who is Digo mother. I see ati "kill ODM" :) - please talk Azimio. Catch up.

Agree on Mutua fake swing.
I will wait for Kalonzo deal.
Raila has hidden in Mombasa.
Kesho he flies direct and names the candidates.
Kalonzo has plan B ready - they are collecting signatures.

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Re: Kilifi & Kwale - combined UDA+PAA will obliterate ODM.
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2022, 03:49:56 AM »
Ruto support is already well known - at Coast it come down UDA Sarai 6%. Mvryas and Jumwas long joined him since 2018 - there is no hidden support waiting to swell up. What you see is what you get - Kingi the beggar king brings nothing.

Azimio is tribal coalition - noone has forced Kalonzo or Karua to join. A Marchiaveli like Sonko sees clearly Pwani is Azimio zone - so he give UDA & kwekwe a wide berth.

Please there is no better or "winning" strategy until Aug :) - i see you still on that high horse

Ruto strategy is simple (to understand, hard to execute)
Win the critical mass support of the ground
Go for it's leaders last
And seal the deal.
Then you reap.
Bottom up politics.

Uhuru and Raila failure stems from doing the opposite.
Intimidate or bribe the leaders first
Then hope their support cascade through
Top down politics
It very easy to execute.

For example UDA was already more popoular than ODM in coast.
So Ruto is crowing his support
This icing on the cake.
On his own he has is own game - that he has developed for 15yrs.
Now PAA and Kingi are just giving him the LEGITIMACY.

It's just a stamp of approval to the masses that this guy who has been knocking incessantly is a nice guy.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels