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I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« on: May 04, 2022, 10:37:48 AM »
What if Ruto gave Kalonzo the useless DPORK (uhuru has made it so) - will Mt Kenya go to baba - NOPE :)

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2022, 11:28:22 AM »
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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2022, 11:28:59 AM »
The title of your thread: :s_laugh: :85:  :tongue:  :105:

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2022, 11:52:03 AM »
Learn to read btw the lines.
The title of your thread: :s_laugh: :85:  :tongue:  :105:

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2022, 12:31:03 PM »
What can Ruto give Kalonzo that he cannot get with Azimio? DP post is gone and super minister has been auctioned too.
Maybe Super Foreign CS. With gates of SH opened to him 24/7 and maybe even a bedroom there. :D

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2022, 12:42:36 PM »
He is negotiating from a weak point.
Ruto can even give him DPORK because his support in Mt kenya is direct injection.
But knowing Ruto he aint going to undo the pact with Mt kenya.

So that leave Kalonzo with the same deal - both parties are willing to give him Super Foreign CS and the mkia.

The only difference - in Azimio - he is risking it - because Raila winning pretty much depend on Mt kenya and Ukambani buying this.

Ruto already bought in Mt kenya.

Kalonzo bringing Kambas mean Ruto win by huge margin.

So if I was him - I would take Ruto offer - because it's A SOLID OFFER - he will make it impossible for Ruto to be rigged out.

Ruto is looking for a rigging margin - Raila is looking for winning formulae.

If he says Ruto tosha - he can begin his Foreign CS assignment today - and  Ababu will be fired :) - redoplyed - basically 2022 will become mute - and they can instead of campaigning begin the formation of gov..

So rational thing say yes to Ruto - and send three names to be appointed minister.  Ruto will stop campaigns - and focus on the handover. Raila at that point will be isolated with unpopular Uhuru as his only plank

What can Ruto give Kalonzo that he cannot get with Azimio? DP post is gone and super minister has been auctioned too.
Maybe Super Foreign CS. With gates of SH opened to him 24/7 and maybe even a bedroom there. :D

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2022, 10:42:28 AM »
Self-deceipt is bad. Kalonzo has at least Azimio-OKA brand investment.. with mere noises about 3 or 4-leg with Jubilee, ODM. He is being offered Super CS.

Isitoshe Azimio give him free hand in Ukambani. If Azimio implode - Wiper still sweeps usual region. But Ruto UDA already competing directly with ANC in Kakamega - even Sakaja is UDA despite some agreement with ANC. There is NO SPACE in KK for Kalonzo.

You can't quote Ruto and say Kalonzo is in talks - while I see them with Gideon in Voi. Show us what Mdvd has first - before you offer Kalonzo the leftovers.
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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2022, 10:51:03 AM »
I see nothing to indicate "secret talks".. Kalonzo was never promised DPORK and is not being played. There is no Jubilee or ODM single MCA in entire Kamba - just Muungano or Chap Chap.

How would UDA-Wiper even work? Muthama to step down for Wavinya? Would Sakaja pick a new runningmate too? Lineups are long firmed up all over including Mombasa.

Some jokes - just see Senator Wambua is smiling on the panel. They are going to name Kalonzo PM. Wiper would order him to quit if there was fallout.

Ruto problem is how to appease Luhya after picking a nobody like Ndindi or a skunk like Waiguru. He is equally afraid to pick paperweight Kindiki with zero charm. So his bots are on steroids spreading fake news.
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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2022, 11:32:37 AM »
I dont see a situation where Kalonzo stay in Azimio without DPORK.
Hiyo nayo hakuna.
Looks like they are saying he will run as Wiper - pulling 2007 card.
They fear joining KK - because UDA are strong in Ukambani.
So very likely Wiper will present him to IEBC as presidential candidate.
That way he can hope to force a re-run.
Azimio will throw legal mumbo jumbo but Wiper will say they never consumated Azimio-Oka because remember they already complained to ODPP that pact had been altered behind their pact.
It will go to court - if need be - but Azimio cannot force Wiper - neither can IEBC reject WIper doc based on some MOU deposited in parties
IEBC will okay Wiper presidential candidate - and Azimio can go resolve their dispute elsewhere.
I see nothing to indicate "secret talks".. Kalonzo was never promised DPORK and is not being played. There is no Jubilee or ODM single MCA in entire Kamba - just Muungano or Chap Chap.

How would UDA-Wiper even work? Muthama to step down for Wavinya? Would Sakaja pick a new runningmate too? Lineups are long firmed up all over including Mombasa.

Some jokes - just see Senator Wambua is smiling on the panel. They are going to name Kalonzo PM. Wiper would order him to quit if there was fallout.

Ruto problem is how to appease Luhya after picking a nobody like Ndindi or a skunk like Waiguru. He is equally afraid to pick paperweight Kindiki with zero charm. So his bots are on steroids spreading fake news.

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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2022, 10:31:36 PM »
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Re: I suspect Kalonzo is negotiating with Ruto
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2022, 11:21:37 PM »
Weeping louder than bereaved as usual. They cant help it.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244