Warning ?? to Ruto,where do you get 30% To give Mudavadi??

[Njuri Ncheke]

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...tutakunyorosha kama burukenge,we are silent now but we are running out of patient. Simple maths if you guve mdvd 30% you leave Kenyans with 70,okay top 3 vote basket for you are Kalenjin,akikuyu then Meru, how do you divide them that 70% bearing in mind other Kenyans also need to be represented.
My take mudavadi brings only about 7% of votes ,300-400k Max thats less than half what Merus will bring,do you mean Merus will get 60% what now about Kalenjin and Kikuyu and the rest of Kenyans??
Ruto needs to sober up from concentrated Mursik and do a proper calculation and I would say after elections, GEMA start with 60% of all government allocation unconditionally,maybe the 30 Musalia says will be taken from the remainder 40%
Lets be realistic,GEMA form backbone of Rutos support, this must be reflected in the government. That said Us Merus are always punching way above our weight scale and this Must continue,we demand more than what gatheca gave us, actually we demand Kibaki era strength, during Kibakis time Kikuyus were Meru spanner boys,watu wa mkono and gate keepers,I remember back then was in Germany I used to hear stories of how lorries would come to villages and sweep all idle youth to police,jeshi and NYS. That was golden era if Ruto get it right Merus will again return to glory days. We won't accept anything less,It would be awesome this time if Kalenjin and Kikuyu became our spanner boys 
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/national/article/2001444224/why-mwai-kibaki-appointed-top-leaders-from-meru

[RV Pundit]

Meru golden era is never coming back
Same with kalenjin and kikuyu golden era.
This 2nd republic.
Even that 30 percent of maDVD he will be expected to pick non-luhyas.
I think GEMA deal - part of it ni deni munalipa - part of it you're investing in future (dpork)
Luhyas have no debt - and are not getting dpork.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Meru golden era is never coming back
Same with kalenjin and kikuyu golden era.
This 2nd republic.
Even that 30 percent of maDVD he will be expected to pick non-luhyas.
I think GEMA deal - part of it ni deni munalipa - part of it you're investing in future (dpork)
Luhyas have no debt - and are not getting dpork.

Nothing like investing in DP that's hubris,we demand tangible appointments, Finance, devolution, agriculture, transport and all worthy parastatals,this is reality of things,its about numbers,we are not giving Ruto kura on a humanitarian basis we are giving him as a business deal. Gatheca has neglected mt kenya for 5 years so we demand our development be back-dated to 2017 and all development programmes honored and completed,at the same time they will be running  parallel to the new ones that We get from Ruto. On top of that all Kibaki era projects in mlima MUST BE COMPLETED,we have Rutos kill switch. 40% can be shared by kalenjin and other kabilas.

[RV Pundit]

You're the guys who brought maDVD+Weta by wavering.
So they will come for your share.
As you speak Kiraitu and Munya are doing their thing in Azimio.
If you had stuck to 50-50 deal - Ruto wont need to go looking for extra votes.
So dont expect to put double chance in Azimio and KK - and get 100 percent.
Ruto will reward Lintika Minturi and his group - and throw to jail Kiraitu & Munya - problem solved.
As we speak Ruto only need half GEMA to win because he has had to go out and get other kabilas - so hapo 25 percent of the stake is enough to reward the loyal half - the other half other kabilas get it.

Nothing like investing in DP that's hubris,we demand tangible appointments, Finance, devolution, agriculture, transport and all worthy parastatals,this is reality of things,its about numbers,we are not giving Ruto kura on a humanitarian basis we are giving him as a business deal. Gatheca has neglected mt kenya for 5 years so we demand our development be back-dated to 2017 and all development programmes honored and completed,at the same time they will be running  parallel to the new ones that We get from Ruto. On top of that all Kibaki era projects in mlima MUST BE COMPLETED,we have Rutos kill switch. 40% can be shared by kalenjin and other kabilas.

[Njuri Ncheke]

You're the guys who brought maDVD+Weta by wavering.
So they will come for your share.
As you speak Kiraitu and Munya are doing their thing in Azimio.
If you had stuck to 50-50 deal - Ruto wont need to go looking for extra votes.
So dont expect to put double chance in Azimio and KK - and get 100 percent.
Ruto will reward Lintika Minturi and his group - and throw to jail Kiraitu & Munya - problem solved.
As we speak Ruto only need half GEMA to win because he has had to go out and get other kabilas - so hapo 25 percent of the stake is enough to reward the loyal half - the other half other kabilas get it.

Nothing like investing in DP that's hubris,we demand tangible appointments, Finance, devolution, agriculture, transport and all worthy parastatals,this is reality of things,its about numbers,we are not giving Ruto kura on a humanitarian basis we are giving him as a business deal. Gatheca has neglected mt kenya for 5 years so we demand our development be back-dated to 2017 and all development programmes honored and completed,at the same time they will be running  parallel to the new ones that We get from Ruto. On top of that all Kibaki era projects in mlima MUST BE COMPLETED,we have Rutos kill switch. 40% can be shared by kalenjin and other kabilas.

My friend that's wishful thinking,to run Kenya you need GEMA especially Kikuyu,you cant give us a raw deal eti because Ruto has been looking for top up votes,we are not asking we are demanding,Gatheca screwed all of us badly,the fallacy that's its kalenjinnwho only suffered is a mirage, actually Kikuyu and Embu/ Meru are worst affected,Luos and Luhyas reaped where they didn't sow and have maximum benefits,so your argument falls short,We just need whats rightfully ours,Do your maths properly lets even wait for the election outcome so that I we say the allocation be done fairly but what we will NOT ACCEPT is someone bringing 7% of votes and getting 30% of government cake. Iyo ni uongo

[RV Pundit]

Ruto is fair.
That is why 10 kalenjin subtribes rarely complain about his leadership and cake sharing.
I think seriously we cannot continue with GEMA at 25 percent of pop getting 50
or Kalenjin.
We need to build a new kenya where tribe or region wont matter.
I want Ruto to appoint people all over kenya based on talent.
Then ensure any development is spread equally through const model...and counties of course.
Obviously there is real politicks...and if maDVD deliver 7 percent - he will get 15 percent of real power - and others will be fillers.
He will get Netball and ministry of culture kind of ministries...useless fillers.
Ruto will definitely appoint many kikuyus because they have been loyal and knows their stuff - Ndiis, Ndidi, Kimani wa Ichungwas, Gachagua..those will be powerful folks.

My friend that's wishful thinking,to run Kenya you need GEMA especially Kikuyu,you cant give us a raw deal eti because Ruto has been looking for top up votes,we are not asking we are demanding,Gatheca screwed all of us badly,the fallacy that's its kalenjinnwho only suffered is a mirage, actually Kikuyu and Embu/ Meru are worst affected,Luos and Luhyas reaped where they didn't sow and have maximum benefits,so your argument falls short,We just need whats rightfully ours,Do your maths properly lets even wait for the election outcome so that I we say the allocation be done fairly but what we will NOT ACCEPT is someone bringing 7% of votes and getting 30% of government cake. Iyo ni uongo

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

The deal is 30% guaranteed as long as they deliver 60%+. If they deliver 10%, they get what corresponds 10% in 30% deal. It all depends on who brings votes. If GEMA deliver 90% they will get the lion's share! It is that simple!

[Njuri Ncheke]

Pundit we are just saying lets the numbers do the talk, everyone can be equally accomodated in Rutos government no one should remain out especially marginalized communities need strong representation and I mean those thats don't have a voice, what we don't is what gatheca did using our blood and sweat then throwing us under the bus taking all development to Nyanza,KDF tenders also are 100% Luo I heard.
 always remember when the master warning ?? light shows up in the cockpit the control joysticks starts shaking.....

[RV Pundit]

I await Ruto manifesto...that is more important than tribal cake sharing.

[Nowayhaha]

RV is right , 10 years of Uhurus Rule has shown us 2 things
1st term showed us a united government focused on development can deliver
2nd Term showed us a tribal government will be more focused on looting. Kikuyus suffered under Uhurus 2nd term even though the government became centralized under Uhuru and his croniea with support from Raila.

Ruto Should just focus on Development and creating jobs. This issue of what percentage of Government a tribe should own doesnt help the common Mwananchi.
I really wonder what has happened to Njuri. His reasoning nowadays is questionable. He reasons like ODMers

I await Ruto manifesto...that is more important than tribal cake sharing.

[audacityofhope]

I await Ruto manifesto...that is more important than tribal cake sharing.

Really @Pundit??? I don't think so,.... going by this exchange not so long ago.... nah!
KK is funny.
Luto for the last 10 years has misspoken so many times, I wonder why & how @RVHH finds him "brilliant". FOR EXAMPLE:

• In 6 months .....       
• Congo has no cows

SMDH

Mdvd: We in KK, we are not about positions, we are about the economy (sic) and uniting the country
A few hours later:
Gachagua: DP position already taken by Mt.Kenya. The ANC leader was privy to this fact before joining the Ruto camp. "We don't want to con someone. They will not be running mates."

Mudavadi response: Hon. Rigathi Gachagua has no authority to speak for Kenya Kwanza

Media Headlines after exchange: The jostle for top positions within Kenya Kwanza Alliance has emerged as William Ruto is out of the country for an international trip.
 

ANC Slams Rigathi Gachagua for Ruling Mudavadi Out of Running Mate Equation: "You've No Authority"

[Githunguri]

If Njuri represents GEMA UDA,Ruto needs to be very scared.The closer  we get to the election,the more support ruto looses in Mt kenya.

So far so good,expect alot of Jubilee MPs MCAs n Governors.

UDA is a party of Kalenjins.

Long live kimnyole.

[Kadudu]

Why is UDA fighting over an the meat of an animal they have even not yet hunted?

That 30% UDA has supposedly given to Western was only parroted by Mudavadi and Weta. We have not heard naything in that direction from Ruto. Once Ruto is in SH, he will set his own agenda. Those promises will br forgotten immediately and people like Mudavadi and Weta will have to report to Ruto's PA before getting Ruto on the line. That is how it functions.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto doesnt promise what he cant fulfil.
MaDVD+Weta have already gotten the signing fee.
The political zoning agreement in Kakamega & Nairobi & Tranzoia & Bungoma is done.
Khawale was forced to step down for Malala. Wanjiru forced to step down for Sakaja.
UDA had to drop it's candidate in Bungoma (A Baraza) and Tranzoia(Kaikai).
Ruto has promised that coalition agreement including power sharing will be public.
It will be deposited on or before 9th May.
From romours madvd+weta have signed up for Finance Ministry cum Chief Minister and one of Speakers.
They also will get 30 percent of the gov.
Of course it can still be renogigated as Azimio crew are rushing to Kenya Kwanza - they dont know what they signed up for in Azimio ya Utapeli.
As for Mt kenya - they will keep DPORK - UDA including GEMA will have 70 percent of gov
I believe small parties like Moses Kuria and others - will have to prove their worth post-election - to get one minister.
Also maDVD+Weta will also have to deliver Western to 60 percent or they will forget about the deal.

In short Ruto negotiate hard - but after that the deal  - he will deliver his part - and he expect you will deliver your part.
And you get very cohesive relationship.

Never before has Weta & maDVD smiled this much - they are very happy and it's shows.
Raila had given Weta a permanent sulk and MaDVD had grown so fat and so drunk to deal with the belittling and misuse.

On the other side - it pure civil war - Kalonzo humiliation continues - Mutuas and Kivuthas are still in tears.
Tim Wanyonyi still crying. There has been a lot of tears without any consultation. Uhuru simply issues orders.

Amason Kingi PAA seem to have had enough - and will bolt to Kenya Kwanza before the 9th May deadline.

If Azimio won- it will be another civil war gov - and wont achieve much.

Ruto will run a very tight ship. Everyone will know their position.
You have seen how nomination were done.

Why is UDA fighting over an the meat of an animal they have even not yet hunted?

That 30% UDA has supposedly given to Western was only parroted by Mudavadi and Weta. We have not heard naything in that direction from Ruto. Once Ruto is in SH, he will set his own agenda. Those promises will br forgotten immediately and people like Mudavadi and Weta will have to report to Ruto's PA before getting Ruto on the line. That is how it functions.

[Njuri Ncheke]

RV is right , 10 years of Uhurus Rule has shown us 2 things
1st term showed us a united government focused on development can deliver
2nd Term showed us a tribal government will be more focused on looting. Kikuyus suffered under Uhurus 2nd term even though the government became centralized under Uhuru and his croniea with support from Raila.

Ruto Should just focus on Development and creating jobs. This issue of what percentage of Government a tribe should own doesnt help the common Mwananchi.
I really wonder what has happened to Njuri. His reasoning nowadays is questionable. He reasons like ODMers

I await Ruto manifesto...that is more important than tribal cake sharing.

Ah, you don't know the posturing going behind the scenes,we have to shout now and be heard otherwise we are back to Moi era where he represented "all" Kenyan communities except GEMA,a situation where the excuse will be "Ruto government is an all inclusive government" at our expense

[RV Pundit]

Happy matching suits as they head to Kibaki funeral- team building - cohesive team - achieve a lot of work

[RV Pundit]

Too late. GEMA are in UDA. It big umbrella carrying everyone.How do you propose for example Ruto sign a deal with Merus? We sign with Kiraitu Azimio bus?

Ruto intends to deliver....you dont need any thing written. YOU NEED GOODWILL. YOU NEED TRUST.

You can write anything with Raila but he will throw it to dustbin the 1st day like kibaki did to LDP-NAK MOU.

Ruto can agree to write an agreement but if it's done in bad faith - he will not implement the spirit of it. You can get very useless ministries for example or key departments taken out of them or appointed PS told to ignore everything you say as minister. Ruto is DPORK now but he is powerless. In 1st term he was co-president.

End of day - politics require lots of goodwill, trust, utmost good faith and fortitude. Once someone is PORK - everything changes. They can do anything they want.

Bottomline - dont vote for a conman like Raila and expect change of character. Vote for somoene reliable like Ruto and all that will be sorted out over coffee.

Ah, you don't know the posturing going behind the scenes,we have to shout now and be heard otherwise we are back to Moi era where he represented "all" Kenyan communities except GEMA,a situation where the excuse will be "Ruto government is an all inclusive government" at our expense

[audacityofhope]

Ruto doesnt promise what he cant fulfil....

You are like Ruto. Shameless... what do you take us here to be?


Ruto: In 6 months time .....

6 years later

peddling lies" about projects in the county.

Those who spoke to the Star said they were not aware and have not seen the stadium Deputy President William Ruto said is under construction.

They criticised him saying it is unethical for Jubilee Party leaders to use "ghost projects" to obtain votes.

They demanded to know the location of this project saying there is no such construction in Kamariny village.

Read more at: There is no Kamariny stadium in West Pokot, residents tell Ruto

[Nowayhaha]

In that case he will have to change constituion or be out of power by  2027.You cannot win elections under current consituion without GEMA support.
Having said that Ruto is not a fool. This can be attested how he hamdled Uhuru betrayal through handshake and most importantly the BBI fiasco.
Uhuru was setting him up against GEMA , Ruto played it well evem with the BBI as the RVs here were agitating for Ruto to lead Kenya against it , We told him to take the courts route and if worse comes to worse to sit out . It worked for him and Ruto is currently having the full backing of GEMA.

RV is right , 10 years of Uhurus Rule has shown us 2 things
1st term showed us a united government focused on development can deliver
2nd Term showed us a tribal government will be more focused on looting. Kikuyus suffered under Uhurus 2nd term even though the government became centralized under Uhuru and his croniea with support from Raila.

Ruto Should just focus on Development and creating jobs. This issue of what percentage of Government a tribe should own doesnt help the common Mwananchi.
I really wonder what has happened to Njuri. His reasoning nowadays is questionable. He reasons like ODMers

I await Ruto manifesto...that is more important than tribal cake sharing.

Ah, you don't know the posturing going behind the scenes,we have to shout now and be heard otherwise we are back to Moi era where he represented "all" Kenyan communities except GEMA,a situation where the excuse will be "Ruto government is an all inclusive government" at our expense

[RV Pundit]

Stadium and sports are under counties.
Jubilee has delivered stadiums - go to every county and there is brand new stadium - not the size of Kasarani - but decent stadiums.
That is why national celebration are now being rotated countrywide.
There is a decent 10-15k size stadiums in almost every of big counties.
Raila ate the other money - in useless repeat election he boycotted.

Ruto doesnt promise what he cant fulfil....

You are like Ruto. Shameless... what do you take us here to be?


Ruto: In 6 months time .....

6 years later

peddling lies" about projects in the county.

Those who spoke to the Star said they were not aware and have not seen the stadium Deputy President William Ruto said is under construction.

They criticised him saying it is unethical for Jubilee Party leaders to use "ghost projects" to obtain votes.

They demanded to know the location of this project saying there is no such construction in Kamariny village.

Read more at: There is no Kamariny stadium in West Pokot, residents tell Ruto