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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2022, 08:06:28 PM »
Njia panda ya fisi; I hope he doesnt pick kalonzo; so we can finish this job; and Ruto can embark on fixing the collapsing economy.

If Uhuru pick someone else then he is working with Ruto to completely finish Raila.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2022, 08:10:40 PM »
How? If he has power to lose a person why not use same power to win himself? Will he get DP this side?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2022, 08:13:49 PM »
Good question , In 2007 he knew he wouldnt win , He made sure Raila lost and at the same time joined Kibaki after the elections. We might see a repeat of the same.

How? If he has power to lose a person why not use same power to win himself?

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2022, 08:14:24 PM »
Ask Raila how he did in 2007. He has already done it.
How? If he has power to lose a person why not use same power to win himself?

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2022, 08:15:22 PM »
Exactly. He gave Kibaki the rigging margin otherwise if ODM had remained united like in 2005 - Kibaki would have been beaten by 43 versus 57 - like had happened in referendum. Kibaki had accepted his fate - as one term president - until ODM split.

Ruto told Raila to step aside for Kalonzo - he refused. Kalonzo would have been done with his 10yrs. Raila would be doing his final. And Ruto would be waiting for his turn.

In the end they gave GEMA another 15yrs in power.

Raila messed up in 2007 by insisting on running despite all intelligence saying Kalonzo is the MAN.

Good question , In 2007 he knew he wouldnt win , He made sure Raila lost and at the same time joined Kibaki after the elections. We might see a repeat of the same.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2022, 08:23:12 PM »
Same mistake he is doing now. If he really wants Ruto to lose he should start with Tosharing another person and still its not guarantee.
Everyone is waiting for April 28th  . For first time since 2002 elections we might see Kambas voting together with GEMA.

Exactly. He gave Kibaki the rigging margin otherwise if ODM had remained united like in 2005 - Kibaki would have been beaten by 43 versus 57 - like had happened in referendum. Kibaki had accepted his fate - as one term president - until ODM split.

Ruto told Raila to step aside for Kalonzo - he refused. Kalonzo would have been done with his 10yrs. Raila would be doing his final. And Ruto would be waiting for his turn.

In the end they gave GEMA another 15yrs in power.

Raila messed up in 2007 by insisting on running despite all intelligence saying Kalonzo is the MAN.

Good question , In 2007 he knew he wouldnt win , He made sure Raila lost and at the same time joined Kibaki after the elections. We might see a repeat of the same.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2022, 08:24:53 PM »
I dont know the game Uhuru is playing - I think he is leading Raila to his slaughter house. If Uhuru wanted Raila to win - there are so many things he should already have done. It's like BBI - 20 obvious mistakes - like Kiswahili edition - hapa iko game inachezwa.
Same mistake he is doing now. If he really wants Ruto to lose he should start with Tosharing another person and still its not guarantee.
Everyone is waiting for April 28th  . For first time since 2002 elections we might see Kambas voting together with GEMA.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2022, 08:26:30 PM »
There is almost no recent presidential election where he took steady stand from beginning to end.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2022, 08:31:46 PM »
My friend PORK need 50% plus ONE. If you're the PLUS ONE guy - you're more important than 50% (millions). Right now each camp is busy looking for the PLUS ONE. The guy who can make you cross 50%...is more crucial than rest of card carrying cows like you and me.

Kalonzo knows how to play his vitisho using Kambas


There is almost no recent presidential election where he took steady stand from beginning to end.


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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2022, 08:50:17 PM »
Uhuru has been in Politics his whole lifetime He became active in 1997 lost MP elections, In 2002 lost Presidential elections. In 2007 won Rererendumn and wanted to exit politics and opt for fulltime partying. In 2013 and 2017 won Presidential elections. Meaning this is a person who know what it takes to win elections and what makes someone lose elections.
He mishandled BBI by design. He is doing the same with Azimio. Why Raila cant learn from BBI is what is baffling.


I dont know the game Uhuru is playing - I think he is leading Raila to his slaughter house. If Uhuru wanted Raila to win - there are so many things he should already have done. It's like BBI - 20 obvious mistakes - like Kiswahili edition - hapa iko game inachezwa.
Same mistake he is doing now. If he really wants Ruto to lose he should start with Tosharing another person and still its not guarantee.
Everyone is waiting for April 28th  . For first time since 2002 elections we might see Kambas voting together with GEMA.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2022, 10:08:09 PM »
Yeah gov cannot commit 20 legal errors when it has whole department full of lawyers run by AG, Solicitor, name it.
BBI time wasting - in endless collection of views - was designed to delay the process.
Deliberate errors were introduced..out of blues 70 unconstitutional const were introduced..Orengo and Atieno cried this banana peel.
As soon as NIS guy Martin Kimani was done - he was send to Newyork to enjoy his time.

Now look at this - it obvious - Uhuru want to finish Raila completely - while giving a free pass to Ruto.
Come 9th August - Many people will be crying premium tears. Raila will have been completely neutured.

Look at how the transfer from Jubilee to UDA happened - iko maneno.

Wacha kwanza Raila is ORDERED (like Nairobi gov) to pick some dead on arrival DPORK - wakamba ndio wale wametoka - last luhya men are here in Nipate.org

Then Uhuru will promise to campaign next month :) reshuffle cabinet: next month; finish Ruto next month; reveal all next month;


Uhuru has been in Politics his whole lifetime He became active in 1997 lost MP elections, In 2002 lost Presidential elections. In 2007 won Rererendumn and wanted to exit politics and opt for fulltime partying. In 2013 and 2017 won Presidential elections. Meaning this is a person who know what it takes to win elections and what makes someone lose elections.
He mishandled BBI by design. He is doing the same with Azimio. Why Raila cant learn from BBI is what is baffling.


I dont know the game Uhuru is playing - I think he is leading Raila to his slaughter house. If Uhuru wanted Raila to win - there are so many things he should already have done. It's like BBI - 20 obvious mistakes - like Kiswahili edition - hapa iko game inachezwa.
Same mistake he is doing now. If he really wants Ruto to lose he should start with Tosharing another person and still its not guarantee.
Everyone is waiting for April 28th  . For first time since 2002 elections we might see Kambas voting together with GEMA.

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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
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Re: Kalonzo now Says He will Make Sure Raila Loses in Aug 09 Elections
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2022, 12:03:15 AM »
Kalonzo seem to have gotten something out of his lengthy foreign policy career and negotiations. Hate him but he is an excellent negotiator who always leaves himself a room to bounce when the need arises. At the moment, he has Raila by the balls. Raila now really needs a very strong sober Uhuru to hit the campaign like DP. The problem is Uhuru is not dependable and time is quickly running out very fast! 
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!