Author Topic: Histotical Differences Between Kamba Nation and GEMA Nation Showing itself  (Read 1870 times)

Offline Nowayhaha

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GEMA nation and Kambas is one family one thing but inw reason Kambas have never shown unity with their brothers is just showing itself.
When GEMA shows it can be united behind one force. You have Kambas from Mutua asking for a 4 legged stool instead of a 3 Legged stool, Ngilu saying Martha Karua for President and Kivuthia saying he is bigger than Kalonzo.
Most Kambas understand Kikuyu why have they been voting for Raila in  2013 and 2017 elections ? There you have it......

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One of those things that continue to confound me.

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My observation is off all the 43 plus tribes in Kenya, Kambas and Luos tend to have deep beef with Kikuyus. A group cannot take repeated shafting from ODM for almost 20 years for nothing. Their hate simply surpasses ODM shafting. Lie like an envelope, charcoal and lorry burning, etc speaks volumes.
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My observation is off all the 43 plus tribes in Kenya, Kambas and Luos tend to have deep beef with Kikuyus. A group cannot take repeated shafting from ODM for almost 20 years for nothing. Their hate simply surpasses ODM shafting. Lie (flat) like an envelope, charcoal and lorry burning, etc speaks volumes.
Your problem is even when you are trying to make a good point you push the envelope trying to re-write history. Lie flat like a  envelope was not uttered by a Luo nor a Luo. It is a quote of the late Ole Ntimama - a Maasai! During Moi era. Yenyewe wakikuyu walikaliwa enzi hizo.
So to be correct you can add Maasai to your list of Luos & Kambas as communities with Kikuyu. Also Ruto himself said of all tribes that have problem with Kyuk, it is Kalenjin the most. See there are actually four tribes. Either include all 4 or desist from trying to FORCE a narrative. Hiyo tu. Post carelessly, we call you out.

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GEMA seems to have deep contempt for Kambas that is strange - they say they are untrustworthy witches.

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My observation is off all the 43 plus tribes in Kenya, Kambas and Luos tend to have deep beef with Kikuyus. A group cannot take repeated shafting from ODM for almost 20 years for nothing. Their hate simply surpasses ODM shafting. Lie (flat) like an envelope, charcoal and lorry burning, etc speaks volumes.
Your problem is even when you are trying to make a good point you push the envelope trying to re-write history. Lie flat like a  envelope was not uttered by a Luo nor a Luo. It is a quote of the late Ole Ntimama - a Maasai! During Moi era. Yenyewe wakikuyu walikaliwa enzi hizo.
So to be correct you can add Maasai to your list of Luos & Kambas as communities with Kikuyu. Also Ruto himself said of all tribes that have problem with Kyuk, it is Kalenjin the most. See there are actually four tribes. Either include all 4 or desist from trying to FORCE a narrative. Hiyo tu. Post carelessly, we call you out.
I am talking about Kalonzo's "Lay low like an envelope comment" before the 2017 elections that angered Kikuyus. In return, the mountain voted Uhuruto to a man. I also know about Ole Ntimama's remark, but we are talking about Kalonzo here! Educate yourself with Kenyan politics first before you embarrass yourself!
https://venasnews.co.ke/2017/08/09/celebrations-in-mount-kenya-as-they-embarrass-kalonzo-with-his-lie-low-remark/
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Offline Njuri Ncheke

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Kambas Kikuyu Meru are all one family just like Russians , Ukrainians and Belarusians.
But Kambas hate other siblings very much,I would understand why they have beef with Kikuyu for taking their land in thika all way to kilimambogo but Merus have never done anything to them.
Kambas are self harming and have crab mentality we need uniting but that wouldn't happen anytime soon

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Such political alliance would hard to beat...I wonder why their leaders don't see it that way.

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Such political alliance would hard to beat...I wonder why their leaders don't see it that way.
It all has to do with their perceived short changing by Kikuyus,Kamba have deep hidden resentment and hatred against Kikuyu, simply because Kikuyu took advantage and took their butter from mkoloni. They have never recovered to this day. I remember in 2007 the most vile anti Kikuyu/GEMA rhetoric was spread by Kambas. If you're Kikuyu or  Meru in Ukambani you risk a beating easily should a bar talk go against you.

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Wrong anology in regards to comparison of Kikuyus Merus Akambas with Russians Ukrainians and BelaRussians.
Russians , Ukrainians and Belarussians are one people originating from Kievan Rus(current Kyiv). They speak same language same genes same DNA. If you want to compare them then you can do so by comparing them as Kikuyus of Kiambu , Muranga,. Nyeri .
The Emperor of Kiev having conquered land distributed it to his children which eventually became the Russian Empire cities currently in Belarus, Ukraine and Moscow.(Same as movement of Kikuyus to Kiambu Nyeri ,Nakuru ,Lamu ,Laikipia Etc.)
If you want to mirror Kamba ,Meru to Eastern Europe then its Slavs Languages like Russian , Polish , Czechlovakish and Yugoslavish(Serbian, Montengro,Macedonia,Bosnia etc)
Americans want Ukrainians to form an identity same as Kiambu want to distinguish itself from Muranga and Nyeri but in the long run  it wont succeed . They are one people not even one family.
There was nothing like Ukraine before world war 1. Lenin and Bolsheviks decided to set a land from New Russia(Lugansk/Donestsk all land left of River Dnepr formerly known as Ekaterina ) and name it Ukrain(plains) then added captured Polish lands (lviv, volodya) after world war 2 with Polish population  which has brought up the current mess.
A meru can undersatnd Kyuk but a kyuk cant understand Meru same with Kamba . Compliments with Polish , Serbs can understand Russian but a Russian cant understand Polish. Russian and Ukraine diffence is the H/G and I/U. The languange is the same and thwy understand each other.

Kambas Kikuyu Meru are all one family just like Russians , Ukrainians and Belarusians.
But Kambas hate other siblings very much,I would understand why they have beef with Kikuyu for taking their land in thika all way to kilimambogo but Merus have never done anything to them.
Kambas are self harming and have crab mentality we need uniting but that wouldn't happen anytime soon

Offline Njuri Ncheke

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Lil brother Noway since Russia invaded Ukraine and got totally defeated you have become a changed man wallowing in your delusionals and being supported by only Dear Mami your disciple. The Truth about Russian and Ukraine is below,
https://www.britannica.com/story/ukrainian-and-russian-how-similar-are-the-twolanguages

Offline Nowayhaha

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Njuri I speak Russian and "Ukrainian". Dare I say Im better in Slavic Languages than in AngloSaxon. (Dont dare teach me slavic Languages) Kadame has come close to identify why .
Part of Kievan Rus was ruled by Grand Dutchy of Liuthenian and Poland in Midevial times. It was Polinized. That was around 12th Century . Later in 18th century they came under Moskovy Rule . Their brothers  Russian Empire . There was revolution after World war 1. Bolsheviks came into power and Lenin decided to creat Ulrainian CCR. It was a big mistake. Ukraine and Russians are one people. Polish are Slavs with Iranian influence. Substanial number of People in Ukraine are Polish by virtue of returning former Russian Empire land back to U.S.S.R. during World War 2 or specifially put ot by Ribbentop -Molov pact.
Whwn you pretend you know whats happening in Ukraine now I just laugh .You know nothing.


Lil brother Noway since Russia invaded Ukraine and got totally defeated you have become a changed man wallowing in your delusionals and being supported by only Dear Mami your disciple. The Truth about Russian and Ukraine is below,
https://www.britannica.com/story/ukrainian-and-russian-how-similar-are-the-twolanguages

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But most of those people in these areas are kambas identifying as kikuyus. Even lower EMbu is all wakambas.

Kambas Kikuyu Meru are all one family just like Russians , Ukrainians and Belarusians.
But Kambas hate other siblings very much,I would understand why they have beef with Kikuyu for taking their land in thika all way to kilimambogo but Merus have never done anything to them.
Kambas are self harming and have crab mentality we need uniting but that wouldn't happen anytime soon
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

Offline Kadudu

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You get it all wrong with languages. A Kamba or Meru does understand Kikuyu because it is widely spoken and similarities with his language. If it had been the other way round and Kimeru was widely spoken like Kikuyu today, also a Kikuyu would be able to understand Kimeru.

Same goes in Western Kenya. A Bukusu would understand a Maragoli just because Kimaragoli was the language used to translate the Bible. So all Luhyas tend to understand Kimaragoli, but not all Maragolis understand the other Luhyas.

Wrong anology in regards to comparison of Kikuyus Merus Akambas with Russians Ukrainians and BelaRussians.
Russians , Ukrainians and Belarussians are one people originating from Kievan Rus(current Kyiv). They speak same language same genes same DNA. If you want to compare them then you can do so by comparing them as Kikuyus of Kiambu , Muranga,. Nyeri .
The Emperor of Kiev having conquered land distributed it to his children which eventually became the Russian Empire cities currently in Belarus, Ukraine and Moscow.(Same as movement of Kikuyus to Kiambu Nyeri ,Nakuru ,Lamu ,Laikipia Etc.)
If you want to mirror Kamba ,Meru to Eastern Europe then its Slavs Languages like Russian , Polish , Czechlovakish and Yugoslavish(Serbian, Montengro,Macedonia,Bosnia etc)
Americans want Ukrainians to form an identity same as Kiambu want to distinguish itself from Muranga and Nyeri but in the long run  it wont succeed . They are one people not even one family.
There was nothing like Ukraine before world war 1. Lenin and Bolsheviks decided to set a land from New Russia(Lugansk/Donestsk all land left of River Dnepr formerly known as Ekaterina ) and name it Ukrain(plains) then added captured Polish lands (lviv, volodya) after world war 2 with Polish population  which has brought up the current mess.
A meru can undersatnd Kyuk but a kyuk cant understand Meru same with Kamba . Compliments with Polish , Serbs can understand Russian but a Russian cant understand Polish. Russian and Ukraine diffence is the H/G and I/U. The languange is the same and thwy understand each other.