Author Topic: Final MOASS - Ruto to beat Raila by about a million votes (52-53) versus (46-47)  (Read 3912 times)

Offline RV Pundit

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Now that both coalition are settled; I hereby release final MOAS 2022 as everything is now pretty settled.

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I think knowing the choice of DP + Line up is where you can say everything is settled. We don't know who will deputize either coalition. That will affect things like turnout etc

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I dont see it changing anything beyond 1 percent - Ruto best will be 53 - Raila best 47.
DPORK will likely come from GEMA from both side
Ukambani for Raila
And unlikely MaDVD.

At this point changing 1 percent one way or the other is hard. I have already given these guys the votes that opinion polls dont have now but that I know they will have when campaign kicked off.

I think knowing the choice of DP + Line up is where you can say everything is settled. We don't know who will deputize either coalition. That will affect things like turnout etc

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Offline RV Pundit

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Okay..keep throwing figures carelessly then come crying it's rigged.Momentum depends..if kamba accept the deal...but yes Raila gained almost 10 percent today.He needs about half a million votes to go 50 50 with Ruto...We nsaw uhuru sagana three backfire...and Ruto has increased his lead in Mt kenya.Remember MOASS has predicted all the elections and referendum with surgeon knife precision

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  • EVERY KENYAN SHOULD HAVE A GUN.
Its Raila 54%-57%...Its Over bro

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Good try. If only you were not a radical Ruto worshipper. Just adjust for the pro-Ruto, anti-Raila bias and you are home.
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Good try. If only you were not a radical Ruto worshipper. Just adjust for the pro-Ruto, anti-Raila bias and you are home.
Do it and share..we will pin it..and we can debate or better meet the night of 9th of august...I know enough of these numbers I don't throw them careless..final moas is not gonna change much

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Its Raila 54%-57%...Its Over bro
okay but how did you come with those numbers

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Stop wasting your valuable time,this thing is gone,we are now discussing 2032

Offline Nefertiti

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Yes Ruto has thud numbers in Ukambani 30+% (cause almighty Muthama), Gema ati 75%... apparently Sagana 3 backfired based on 1 Murang'a poll. But Luhya did not backfire despite big rebellion-exodus to Azimio. Even in places where clans rule... like Mandera where Jubilee had 95% - Ruto magically manages big numbers despite headlines of Azimio full board. Gusii is another one.

Its Raila 54%-57%...Its Over bro
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MOAS za utapeli.
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hehehehe, pomposity has reduced. Ruto 65% is out of the window. Tulia dawa ikuingie, I'm seeing very funny percentages in cenyral, western and Ukambani

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Come up with your own..and as always let's meet on the 10th
MOAS za utapeli.

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In fact since 2013 no Raila supporter has produced a version showing of their win..it doesn't exist

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Ruto need 50 percent plus single vote to win. He has almost a million votes difference with Raila is vote turnout reduces by 10 percent - and if turnout is kept the same - the difference remain a million plus votes

The magic number Raila need to beat Ruto is to win 45 percent of Mt kenya....that is big mountain to climb...so he can beat Ruto by 100K votes :) :)

This only scenario where Raila wins by a whisker :)

hehehehe, pomposity has reduced. Ruto 65% is out of the window. Tulia dawa ikuingie, I'm seeing very funny percentages in cenyral, western and Ukambani

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Pretty much summarize this election - the repeat of the last two.

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True, hao watu hawananga discipline. They use pomp and spectacle to wow supporters but don't do followup when it matters. Elections are not just about spectacle at rallies and social media, they are also about grassroots mobilisation. I think that's how in 2017 Jubilee performed better in NASA areas like Western because Ruto left nothing to chance. This election will be fought on a polling station basis, and all those in Azimio have no one who can mount such an operation. Kazi ni kubweka kwa TV then delude themselves ati wameshinda. No wonder they all seem mortally afraid of Ruto. Just look at Kiambaa, Uhuru pulled all stops by fielding the stronger candidate and using "system" to intimidate UDAs voters. In the end, UDA won because of how they mobilised their people to vote, it would all have been too easy for a voter to stay home especially due to police and system presence.
Azimio cannot replicate that system countrywide, labda a few strongholds. Huku kwingine Ruto will wipe the floor with them.
Pretty much summarize this election - the repeat of the last two.

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Yes Ruto has managed to starve off combined Raila-Uhuru assault the last five years through hard-nosed grassroot campaigns.

Raila formulae has always been to create sort of national euphoria like NARC of 2002 - that gives the momentum for statehouse - that is why he's been desperately trying jump-start his presidential bid 5 times now - but he has NOT gained that momentum. It's been Kasarani or kibera or Jacarada - where Luo slum dwellers converge - then run for Kisumu - and then it's fizzle out - sometimes due to health reasons.

Let see if Kalonzo momentum will be sustained - maybe Uhuru & Kalonzo will finally engage fully considering Raila health & age doesn't allow him for gruelling duel with Ruto - and of course almost every rally - Raila and his crew will be subtracting votes with careless speeches. I expect their new exuberance to lead them to make many fau-pauxes as they are now convinced they have it wrapped.

Ruto approach is to comb villages - to do the hardwork - to go places no one has gone to for presidential campaigns - and that submarine sawa him improve western in 2017 from 4 percent (actually zero if you factor it's kalenjin/kikuyu diaspora) to nearly 30 percent in 2017 - same with Gusii and Coast - gaining Jubilee almost 5 percent of the national vote-> more than 2013.

Ultimately the political formation remain as of 2013 & 2017 - and it's really the question of whether Raila new gains can overturn Ruto new gains in such a manner to bridge the 10 percent gap of 2017 (ignore the rigging claims - nobody has impugned the figures - just the processes).

True, hao watu hawananga discipline. They use pomp and spectacle to wow supporters but don't do followup when it matters. Elections are not just about spectacle at rallies and social media, they are also about grassroots mobilisation. I think that's how in 2017 Jubilee performed better in NASA areas like Western because Ruto left nothing to chance. This election will be fought on a polling station basis, and all those in Azimio have no one who can mount such an operation. Kazi ni kubweka kwa TV then delude themselves ati wameshinda. No wonder they all seem mortally afraid of Ruto. Just look at Kiambaa, Uhuru pulled all stops by fielding the stronger candidate and using "system" to intimidate UDAs voters. In the end, UDA won because of how they mobilised their people to vote, it would all have been too easy for a voter to stay home especially due to police and system presence.
Azimio cannot replicate that system countrywide, labda a few strongholds. Huku kwingine Ruto will wipe the floor with them.

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It's a comedy of errors.

Once it became clear Kalonzo is not running alone as hoped & prayed... Ruto in Gema was promptly buffed to 75% to maintain the narrative. Note Ruto is still at 30+ in Ukambani  :-\  - literally Azimio full-house. Now imagine if in the next few days half Wiper MPs defected to UDA as happened in Luhya after earthquake.. Ruto would promptly be declared 65% winner.

Finally in case the numbers don't add up the warriors are ready.

hehehehe, pomposity has reduced. Ruto 65% is out of the window. Tulia dawa ikuingie, I'm seeing very funny percentages in cenyral, western and Ukambani
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