You need to pass basic level of sound argumentation to warrant a response.
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Of the 44 kenya tribes - 30 are sub tribes of Luhya, Kalenjin and Mijikenda. I personally choose my tribe as Kipsigis but can pick Kalenjin sometimes. You also pick Bukusu as tribe and Luhya sometimes.
Pundit usually has no comeback when I answer him. Over here also was no different
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Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
Hakuna drift hapo. If you are going to adopt a nonsensical line about sub-tribes purporting them to be official tribes then HELLO, I will pass you the 2009 census list EACH WITH A CODE where one was asked to choose where they belonged. That list had 114 codes meaning 114 ethnic groupings (
not 44). When Uhuru signed up Makonde as the 43rd tribe in 2017 and then followed with Gazetting the Indian as 44th, I believe that period was still Jubilee 1.0 and therefore YOU STILL SUPPORTED HIM, so you have no reason to claim that at that point he was not of sound mind signing documents he didn't understand or with no historical basis!
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Bullcrap! 42 tribes
is derived from the 1969 census and was kept that way by successive politicians for convenience. Uhuru added the Makonde and Indians in 2017. The official 1962 census tribes are listed below.
Ethnic groupings in Kenya were a colonial creation (Thanks Amb Kimani for reminding the world of the same) made in their "wisdom" of grouping by what they perceived as
ethnic homogeneity. Post independence politicians decided to leave that enumeration methodology intact to ride on political numbers (in 2013 some fake Jubilee professor introduced the term 'tyranny of numbers'). If you look at the listing below,
Kikuyu is one tribe, Luhya is one tribe and Mijikenda one tribe!. You can choose to be daft if that does not make sense to you.
We often talk of the 'big 5'. The 1962 census and 1969 had the Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, Kamba and Kisii as the big five.
Moi fiddled in 1979 census to impose the Kalenjin as a tribe and displace the Kisii from that coveted spot of big five. However many people forget that the colonial government already recognized many distinct cultures as tribes even though they had fewer than populations of 100,000 persons and that is how we arrive at 42. YOU DO NOT GET TO 42 by haphazardly dismembering tribes to sub-tribes. 36 tribes were recognized in the 1962 census while 42 were recognized in the 1969 census.
So can we please desist from making our own numbers (like unschooled people) when already what is official a tribe is already DOCUMENTED in government records?
Tribe and Population in 1962 Census
Kikuyus- 1,642,065
Luo - 1,148,355
Luhya - 1,086,409
Kamba - 933,219
Kisii - 538,343
Meru - 439,921
Mijikenda - 414,887
Kipsigis - 341,771
Nandi - 170,085
Maasai - 154,079
Tugen - 109,691
Elgeyo - 100,871
Embu - 95,647
Taita - 83,613
Pokot - 76,537
Teso - 72,357
Marakwet - 66,965
Kuria - 41,885
Tharaka - 38,474
Mbere - 38,172
Sabaot - 28,012
Nderobo - 14,378
Bajun - 11,280
Swahili/Shirazi - 8,657
Taveta - 4,855
Boni/Sanye - 4,797
Njemps - 4,681
Somali - 275,241
Turkana - 181,387
Boran - 58,346
Samburu - 48,750
Pokomo - 30,350
Rendile - 13,724
Orman - 11,646
Gabbra - 11,478
Sakuye - 1,681
Not stated - 15,481
TOTAL - 8,318,070
https://www.erdkunde.uni-bonn.de/archive/2000/the-ethnic-geography-of-kenya-on-the-eve-of-independence-the-1962-census/at_download/attachment