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[KenyanPlato]

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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) mankind
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb


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[RV Pundit]

The security of a country like Russia is bigger than Putin.
I totally understand why Russia have been spooked by NATO expansionist imperialism.
Russia have legitimate reason to attack Ukraine.
Stop that NATO nonsense.
Post cold-war and collapse of USSR - what justification for all this?

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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb


Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers

[Kadudu]

Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) Patel
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb


Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers

Patel goes where kalenjins go. I thought he was a luo but it seems he is from rv

[Dear Mami]

Lol, say what you want. I'm no Putin Lover. I admire Chinese governance, NOT Russian: The Chinese are all about solving their poor people's problems. Russians are too Kenyan-like for my taste, i.e. in their oligarchic tendencies and corruption. But when it comes to geopolitics, you'll never catch me dead just swallowing American propaganda without digging further: those mofos are dangerous!  I just happen to know the Americans have caused this particular crisis and it was totally preventable.

[Kadudu]

It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?

The security of a country like Russia is bigger than Putin.
I totally understand why Russia have been spooked by NATO expansionist imperialism.
Russia have legitimate reason to attack Ukraine.
Stop that NATO nonsense.

[RV Pundit]

Nobody has a problem if they join EU or even Africa Free Trade Area or even American-Canada Trade deal.
NATO is a problem.
NATO basically says if you attack any member - all the members are bound to attack you.
Now imagine if you have a neigberhour - and as always - neighberhours have issues - like Migingo - and you cannot tell Uganda anything because countries from Senegal to egypt will attack you.
There is absolutely no way I can accept that.
From my own personal experience - we had similar situation in my home - we bought land in middle of a certain clan - who dominated the village.
Every time the conflict got violent - they would merge - and attack us combined.
It's just that we were bad -ase and wise - sometimes holding ground until we got police.
That is why Russian have said any contogious neighbour planning or imagining of joining NATO is declaring war on RUssia.
They are not gonna wait until they join...they will attack if you show ANY INTENTION.

It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?

[Dear Mami]

Nobody has a problem if they join EU or even Africa Free Trade Area or even American-Canada Trade deal.
NATO is a problem.
NATO basically says if you attack any member - all the members are bound to attack you.
Now imagine if you have a neigberhour - and as always - neighberhours have issues - like Migingo - and you cannot tell Uganda anything because countries from Senegal to egypt will attack you.
There is absolutely no way I can accept that.
From my own personal experience - we had similar situation in my home - we bought land in middle of a certain clan - who dominated the village.
Every time the conflict got violent - they would merge - and attack us combined.
It's just that we were bad -ase and wise.

It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?

That's it, plus they don't want missiles stationed at their border ready to launch into their country at any moment, which is what would happen if either Georgia or Ukraine joined Nato.

[KenyanPlato]

Pundit, putin target is 🇺🇸. He is just bullying Ukraine and invading it in hope this will force American to vote gop back. Ptin see 🇺🇸 as his,bully and wants to teach Americans liberals a lesson. If this backfires on Biden them rethugs can take congress in midterm elections. Nato is not his worry
 He has no plans of recreating ussr empire.

[RV Pundit]

Putin is not an idiot. He knows US is extremely powerful. He has no ambition of fighting or even competing with US anywhere in the world. US is gorrilla in the room. But US and Western Europe remain ever imperalist. We know them here. They are all over world with Neo-Colonialism. They want to impose their dollar. Their technology. They want power. They want to dominate the world.

Putin and China are the forces against Western Imperialism. Colonialism ended but they began neo-coloniliasm - and want to turn the entire world to be like Latin America - where they invade any time any day - interfere willy nilly.

Pundit, putin target is 🇺🇸. He is just bullying Ukraine and invading it in hope this will force American to vote gop back. Ptin see 🇺🇸 as his,bully and wants to teach Americans liberals a lesson. If this backfires on Biden them rethugs can take congress in midterm elections. Nato is not his worry
 He has no plans of recreating ussr empire.

[KenyanPlato]

Putin still messes with 🇺🇸. He has found out if can drive a wedge between democrats and gop he can have a lot of leverage. Putin was very powerful during Trump time. Anyway putin is 69 years. He has ruled for 20 years and I think his time is up and will be gone with a decade

[RV Pundit]

Putin is not problem. Any Russian president will hold the keys to incredible nuclear weapons. It doesnt matter if they are Putin or Stalin. They will kick arse. The same with China or US. US president is not powerful - the US is powerful..

Putin still messes with 🇺🇸. He has found out if can drive a wedge between democrats and gop he can have a lot of leverage. Putin was very powerful during Trump time. Anyway putin is 69 years. He has ruled for 20 years and I think his time is up and will be gone with a decade

[KenyanPlato]

Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place

[Dear Mami]

Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place

I support this! Let people walk into Russia and take away their nukes  When they're finished, they should pass by N.Korea and take those nukes, too. Then Pakistan, India, Israel, China, France, Britain, and finally, the U.S. I'd donate a year's salary into the kitty to do this. It'd mean no more nuclear threats to poor ones like us who NEVER made a single dangerous world-destroying weapon.

When you find this Avenger squad, tell me, I'll fully support them.

[Nowayhaha]

You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.

Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb


Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers

[Nowayhaha]

Well this was the longterm intention of NATO . Putin saw it in advance and decided first to Dissarm Ukraine and stop the further expansion of NATO . Now why are you angry with him when you are advocating the same thing ?

Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place

[Kadudu]

You are now commenting like anti-vaxxers. Believing you have swallowed and digested all wisdom for yourself.

You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.

[Nowayhaha]

Kadudu answer me the following questions why was NATO formed ? Why are they expanding Eastwards ?

You are now commenting like anti-vaxxers. Believing you have swallowed and digested all wisdom for yourself.

You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.

[Dear Mami]

Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) Patel
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb


Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers

Patel goes where kalenjins go. I thought he was a luo but it seems he is from rv

Going on a limb, here, I'd add Mwalimu to our column which is NOT about loving dictators so much as being VERY WEARY of Western imperialism and the American military-industrial complex By all indications, he has seriously studied Bazungu shenanigans in non-Bazungu lands over the past few centuries and has developed the same healthy fear of their ways that I have, especially the American Bazungu.

[KenyanPlato]

I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms

[RV Pundit]

some of the great things you get are as result of US & Western Europe imperialism; modern slave trade; For example the dollar as defacto global currency means the US can take as much debt as it want and simply repay by printing paper for the rest of the world. This make the US live irresponsibly while rest of the world are saving and living frugally. US and likes get international deals cheaply, minerals cheaply, name it, cheaply because they have rigged the system.

When countries like China and Russia exclude their countries from such imperial system - western propaganda goes on the usual they are anti-democratic evils.

I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms