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Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« on: February 23, 2022, 05:13:04 AM »
This is the most talked about speech. This guy hit it out of the park. His closing statement is amazing. Eloquently said and actually is the most sensible of all them speeches

Starts at minute 41


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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2022, 07:21:29 AM »
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.

China ambassador made the best speech - in short  - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2022, 07:37:32 AM »
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.

China ambassador made the best speech - in short  - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.

For once I'm in agreement with you. Third world should be non aligned. We have no dog in those fights.

We should be secretly hoping their exhaust themselves, as WWI and II did to the West.

Sleep is good, death is better; but of course, The best would be never to have been born at all.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2022, 07:41:58 AM »
The problem of hiring opinionated ambassadors who grab such opportunity to wax lyrical in their fake shakespean English instead of communicating Kenya position in this conflict - which simply is we have no dog in that fight.

He should be reminded he is not some proffesor at some think tank or policy body - he is the Kenya official mouthpiece. He is not suppose to think. He is suppose to parrot kenya gov official policy. We dont want to be western europe poddles - we want to be independent non-aligned nation welcoming all.

For once I'm in agreement with you. Third world should be non aligned. We have no dog in those fights.

We should be secretly hoping their exhaust themselves, as WWI and II did to the West.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2022, 07:53:47 AM »
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.

China ambassador made the best speech - in short  - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
I honestly hope you are right on that one statement ONLY (The rest you have written is hogwash as usual - future of planet earth should never be the sole preserve of one or two Nations - world issues - like Climate change - and wars affect every Nation and that is why they are called World wars)
I hope Amb Martin Kimani ignored Kenyan foreign policy or lack thereof and went with deep soul searching instead. Does Kenya have a foreign policy worth talking about? I grew up and never understood how Kenya Govt got its foreign policy wrong at every turn! Always on the wrong side of History. Kenya Govt supported the evil Apartheid govt of South Africa coz Margaret Thatcher told them to do so. In Rwanda the Moi govt supported the murderous Hutu ... so many examples
This Kimani guy is Munya Wayiaki reincarnated. I just hope he wrote that speech in their New York office without any regard from Nairobi. The logical is so flawless when you listen to it, who can dare fault it. Framed in historical experiences, his speech aligned with our situation, past, present and even future. Which is really why Kimani holds that post.
To be fair to Putin though, what makes his situation any different to that of the late President Kennedy and how he reacted when he found the USSR had stockpiled missiles in Cuba only 144 miles from the US coastline?

Listen to Amb Martin Kimani snippet here.
@Stockguru is probably Computer illiterate so he hasn't a clue how to edit a video so that he posts only that which is relevant.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2022, 07:56:46 AM »
I think kenya foreign policy has always been not have any policy unless it's EAC or AU or UN resolution.
Dr Sally Kosgey use to steer that ministry - with Stanford level of intellect - once gave Minister Kalonzo a big slap for being an idiot
Then Dr Juma came - she is also intelligent - but we started trying to exert ourselves - BIG mistake.
Now I think Kamau the PS - UN guy for long time - runs the show.
We dont need any foreign policy - except one that pursues peace and stay out of foreign conflicts
In short not to be opinionated about conflicts even in arounds us.
To always call for peaceful resolution of any conflict.
We couldn't get into RSA conflict until AU had passed a resolution - and we then abided.
We want to be friendly to everyone unless they are unfriendly to us.
We really have no business talking about Russia and Eastern Europe.
We can talk a storm in the UN - but eventually Russia will VETO it.
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.

China ambassador made the best speech - in short  - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
I honestly hope you are right on that one statement. Does Kenya have a foreign policy worth talking about? I grew up and never understood how Kenya Govt got its foreign policy wrong at every turn! Always on the wrong side of History. Kenya Govt supported the evil Apartheid govt of South Africa coz Margaret Thatcher told them to do so. In Rwanda the Moi govt supported the murderous Hutu ... so many examples
This Kimanu guy is Munya Wayiaki reincarnated. I just hope he wrote that speech in their New York office without any regard from Nairobi. The logical is so flawless when you listen to it, who can dare fault it. It also aligns with our situation, past, present and even future. Which is really why Kimani holds that post.
To be fair to Putin though, what makes his situation any different to the late President Kennedy and how he reacted when he found the USSR had stockpiled missiles in Cuba only 144 miles from the US coastline?

Listen to the snippet here.
@Stockguru is probably Computer illiterate so he hasn't a clue how to edit a video so that he posts only that which is relevant.

Invalid Tweet ID?s=20&t=o1-u-38Ursv2bDsVXF3tfQ


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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2022, 08:46:20 AM »
Russia is not a big dog, John Mcain rightfully called them a gas station. Watch how they get choked by USA and Europeans. Kenya is right to side with the big dogs, can you name one product or innovation that you are using right now that came from Russia? They are a military superpower but economically, they are a shithole. If you have doubts, ask the rich oligarchs, they rob russia and use the money in the west, once the the oligarchs are hit with sanctions, Putin will fold like a biatch.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2022, 09:09:27 AM »

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2022, 09:12:34 AM »
Russia can be good source for our weapons (we continue to buy expensively from US), for wheat imports, a market for our tea and coffee, source of tourists and also a source of investment.

We cannot afford to create unnecessary enemies. Let US and Western NATO fight their proxy wars in Ukraine.

2yrs ago we were courting Russia
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/russia-courts-kenya-for-new-business-trade-deals-2267160

Russia is not a big dog, John Mcain rightfully called them a gas station. Watch how they get choked by USA and Europeans. Kenya is right to side with the big dogs, can you name one product or innovation that you are using right now that came from Russia? They are a military superpower but economically, they are a shithole. If you have doubts, ask the rich oligarchs, they rob russia and use the money in the west, once the the oligarchs are hit with sanctions, Putin will fold like a biatch.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2022, 09:14:03 AM »
You hit the nail in its head . First you need to ask what is Kenyans Foreign Policy - None , Who is the Foreign CS Raychelle Omamo . She has no clue whatsover , She has benn making one mistake after the other - The way she handled Migunas issue and also  the way she handled UAE ban leaves a lot to be desired .
Now coming to Amb Kimani , He did his studies in U.K. His mentality if skewed for western thinking . His speech actually mirrors what actually Western nation do - Talk one thing and do the other thing . He talked of empires and nostalgia and non meddling in local affairs - Isnt what France and UK doing in Africa the exact opposite ? What was the Iraq and Afghanistan exploration ?
Now Amb Kimani as RV points out was the lead lawyer in tearing to tatters our Constitution he drafted the BBI - This is what Kenyans should judge him not some written speech which probably was drafted by some western nation apparatchik .
RV have been following you on Geopolitics you impress me . Seems you have a niche in Politics you should have done Political Science - Having said that I think you struggle in other areas like Economics /Finance / Business.
 

Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.

China ambassador made the best speech - in short  - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2022, 09:20:18 AM »
Few days ago - Kenya had refused (rightly) to vote on Russia-Ukraine issue.
I think PS Macharai Kamau does a good job - after Dr Juma left
Macharia Kamau has long career as senior UN official - so he should know his way around diplomacy and hot potato issues like Russia
I guess Omamo having been ambassador - is one causing confusion.
I wonder if Kimani got clearance from Kenya or he was just convinced to lecture Russia (a superpower) by some little Island of Englad.
We need to stop being poodles of little Island called England.
Jubilee had done very well - after ICC fallout with western europe - to free kenya from being a western poddle.
We dont need foreign policy created by someone without consulting at least our parliament.
We should stick to parliament, EAC, AU and UN resolutions.

What give Kenya the cheek to lecture Russia :)

You hit the nail in its head . First you need to ask what is Kenyans Foreign Policy - None , Who is the Foreign CS Raychelle Omamo . She has no clue whatsover , She has benn making one mistake after the other - The way she handled Migunas issue and also  the way she handled UAE ban leaves a lot to be desired .
Now coming to Amb Kimani , He did his studies in U.K. His mentality if skewed for western thinking . His speech actually mirrors what actually Western nation do - Talk one thing and do the other thing . He talked of empires and nostalgia and non meddling in local affairs - Isnt what France and UK doing in Africa the exact opposite ? What was the Iraq and Afghanistan exploration ?
Now Amb Kimani as RV points out was the lead lawyer in tearing to tatters our Constitution he drafted the BBI - This is what Kenyans should judge him not some written speech which probably was drafted by some western nation apparatchik .
RV have been following you on Geopolitics you impress me . Seems you have a niche in Politics you should have done Political Science - Having said that I think you struggle in other areas like Economics /Finance / Business.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2022, 09:26:58 AM »
A cold war is on the horizon and you have seen it(you have a vision)  unlike many brainwashed guys here living and struggling in the western countries . China is not stupid to play fence sitter - They are bound to benefit from the new friction . They have heavily invested in Ukraine and get their energy supplies from Russia .
Western nations claim to have sanctioned Russias major economic components - Where do you think Russia will turn to ? Of course China hence the reason their speech was neutral . Kenya should have emulated that . Stay neutral and wait for them to tear each other - Suffice to say thats the reason Most African nations got independence (lets put it dierect because of the World War II and Cold war ) Even U.K. is a poodle in the current crisis suffice some BBI failure Kimani .

Russia can be good source for our weapons (we continue to buy expensively from US), for wheat imports, a market for our tea and coffee, source of tourists and also a source of investment.

We cannot afford to create unnecessary enemies. Let US and Western NATO fight their proxy wars in Ukraine.

2yrs ago we were courting Russia
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/russia-courts-kenya-for-new-business-trade-deals-2267160

Russia is not a big dog, John Mcain rightfully called them a gas station. Watch how they get choked by USA and Europeans. Kenya is right to side with the big dogs, can you name one product or innovation that you are using right now that came from Russia? They are a military superpower but economically, they are a shithole. If you have doubts, ask the rich oligarchs, they rob russia and use the money in the west, once the the oligarchs are hit with sanctions, Putin will fold like a biatch.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2022, 10:00:46 AM »

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2022, 10:30:57 AM »
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.

This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.

Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.

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We absolutely need not be seen or heard on this matter at all. This fella is crafting a bigger career for himself, not looking out for our interests. Why on earth should we have anything to say about a European dispute or a Russian-American dispute? The GOVT should give him a serious warning ASAP. :o

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2022, 10:37:41 AM »
We dont need foreign policy created by someone without consulting at least our parliament.
We should stick to parliament, EAC, AU and UN resolutions.

What give Kenya the cheek to lecture Russia :)

Guy is insane! We can't even lecture our own neighbours here in Sudan and now we're lecturing Russia. Ajabu sana.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2022, 10:58:30 AM »
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Shida ni I don't think he's serving us. He's having a big shiny moment in the spotlight. In some situations, being a good envoy means switching on invisibility mode and being as inconspicuous as the shadow.

He should be recalled and his replacement issue a neutral statement. Then we need to never be heard from in this neck of the woods ever again.

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2022, 11:00:39 AM »
I think you're right - as the jubilee regime dies - he knows his posting is one of the lucrative seats that will up for grabs - he is out there looking for a job - and peeing on kenya national interest.
We absolutely need not be seen or heard on this matter at all. This fella is crafting a bigger career for himself, not looking out for our interests. Why on earth should we have anything to say about a European dispute or a Russian-American dispute? The GOVT should give him a serious warning ASAP. :o

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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2022, 12:50:28 PM »
That is the problem of having lots of RV boys in the military. Give them bow and arrows and not this modern equipment. :D :D :D


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Re: Ambassador Kimani Gives Statement at UN on Russia Invasion
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2022, 01:30:07 PM »
This is the most talked about speech. This guy hit it out of the park. His closing statement is amazing. Eloquently said and actually is the most sensible of all them speeches

Starts at minute 41

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