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Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« on: February 12, 2022, 07:02:48 AM »
Friends,

When some few dholuos tried overthrow Moi in 1982,they were beaten to death.From that year upto 2002,Moi stashed Kalenjins in every security apparatus from intelligence police military provincial administration and controlled money and electoral commission,so when kibaki became president in 2002 he had to kneel down to Moi because he was just a president on paper,he was manipulated and blackmailed in every government institution...Remember Moi owned all gangs from every corner..Now its 2022,Theyve been out of power for 20 years so they dont have monopoly in  any security department and cannot even have a warrior fight because ICC is looking at them...To make matters worse,they cannot beat their Gikuyu cousins to negotiate a power deal because they'de loose millions of votes..so Ruto is f**ked up this time,his agents will find it hard everywehere and no sane government official will pick his call.BABA is YOUR PRESIDENT...BALLIN BAI IN PEACE

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2022, 07:38:34 AM »
Nyar wa Kisumo, It actually harder now, because outside Luo-Kalenjin - everywhere else is almost 50-50 battle, meaning every candidate will have agents passionately protecting their votes, and maina kiai ruling made rigging very granular...you have to rig at every polling station - where max votes are 500-700.

If Raila was looking for top up rigging like Jubilee 2013 - who needed just some 20,000 votes to go past 50% plus one - or kibaki who need 200,000 votes - it would be feasible to rig in areas like Mandera (Jubilee 2013 was rigged in NEP evidence seem to suggest).

But now you have someone who with help of Kalonzo would still be 1.5M short - and you have every polling station being the final tallying center - and almost everywhere Ruto will have committed party agents and candidates protecting that vote. You'd need to rig him 100 votes in almost half the polling stations...leaving evidence from here to Timbuktu.

Rigging that will happen is in Luo Nyanza - through community collaboration - which will be countered by similar rigging in Kalenjin.

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2022, 08:43:02 AM »
Rv Pundit,

I am not Jaluo..Am a kikuyu pure GEMA.There are millions of Kikuyu like me who hate William Ruto with passion and we will be Azimio agent s in GEMA LAND.

Do you remember how Echesa whipped an IEBC Agent last by election? NOTHING HAPPENED so this time it's gonna be bad.

AZIMIO will control police who PROTECT IEBC officials and UDA begging agents from changaa dens,Mucheru will just disable phone networks and hack M-PESA, no communication no money pure black out.

If its violence,kale warriors will beat no one they need Kikuyu naragoli and bukusu sympathy votes,

In Luo Nyanza and Gema and like of busia, expect 120% voter turnout.If UDA goes to Koome court,she will order a rerun,,Raila wins again,the second time UDA goes to court she will throw petition out,

Raila gets sworn in,MPs are cheap,,everybody will tow the line and nobody will associate with Ruto..ukijaribu DCI wanakuweka Kwa boot ya Subaru...you can't make this stuff up some popcorns please


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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2022, 09:03:19 AM »
You're suicidal.
Rv Pundit,

I am not Jaluo..Am a kikuyu pure GEMA.There are millions of Kikuyu like me who hate William Ruto with passion and we will be Azimio agent s in GEMA LAND.

Do you remember how Echesa whipped an IEBC Agent last by election? NOTHING HAPPENED so this time it's gonna be bad.

AZIMIO will control police who PROTECT IEBC officials and UDA begging agents from changaa dens,Mucheru will just disable phone networks and hack M-PESA, no communication no money pure black out.

If its violence,kale warriors will beat no one they need Kikuyu naragoli and bukusu sympathy votes,

In Luo Nyanza and Gema and like of busia, expect 120% voter turnout.If UDA goes to Koome court,she will order a rerun,,Raila wins again,the second time UDA goes to court she will throw petition out,

Raila gets sworn in,MPs are cheap,,everybody will tow the line and nobody will associate with Ruto..ukijaribu DCI wanakuweka Kwa boot ya Subaru...you can't make this stuff up some popcorns please



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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2022, 09:34:11 AM »
A kikuyu calling Jaluos Dholuos
You cant make this stuff.
Secondly Moi did the most respectable and gentleman thing in politics He wholesomely handed power to Kibaki.

The person who blavkmailed Kibaki was none other than Raila.
He is still paying for it up until now. He will never be President.
Friends,

When some few dholuos tried overthrow Moi in 1982,they were beaten to death.From that year upto 2002,Moi stashed Kalenjins in every security apparatus from intelligence police military provincial administration and controlled money and electoral commission,so when kibaki became president in 2002 he had to kneel down to Moi because he was just a president on paper,he was manipulated and blackmailed in every government institution...Remember Moi owned all gangs from every corner..Now its 2022,Theyve been out of power for 20 years so they dont have monopoly in  any security department and cannot even have a warrior fight because ICC is looking at them...To make matters worse,they cannot beat their Gikuyu cousins to negotiate a power deal because they'de loose millions of votes..so Ruto is f**ked up this time,his agents will find it hard everywehere and no sane government official will pick his call.BABA is YOUR PRESIDENT...BALLIN BAI IN PEACE

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2022, 09:38:40 AM »
Only hope for Azimio in winning 2022 elections is rigging.
Fact is No Kenyan General election has been won by Rigging. In 2007 ODM rigged in their strongholds(Nyanza) as demonstrated bit still lost fair and square.

Rv Pundit,

I am not Jaluo..Am a kikuyu pure GEMA.There are millions of Kikuyu like me who hate William Ruto with passion and we will be Azimio agent s in GEMA LAND.

Do you remember how Echesa whipped an IEBC Agent last by election? NOTHING HAPPENED so this time it's gonna be bad.

AZIMIO will control police who PROTECT IEBC officials and UDA begging agents from changaa dens,Mucheru will just disable phone networks and hack M-PESA, no communication no money pure black out.

If its violence,kale warriors will beat no one they need Kikuyu naragoli and bukusu sympathy votes,

In Luo Nyanza and Gema and like of busia, expect 120% voter turnout.If UDA goes to Koome court,she will order a rerun,,Raila wins again,the second time UDA goes to court she will throw petition out,

Raila gets sworn in,MPs are cheap,,everybody will tow the line and nobody will associate with Ruto..ukijaribu DCI wanakuweka Kwa boot ya Subaru...you can't make this stuff up some popcorns please

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2022, 10:17:17 AM »
There is no rigging hope - maDVD+Weta are working hard to provide the rigging margins. The gap is too big to be bridged by rigging. Everyone knew Kibaki would rig out Raila...because an incumbent cannot lose tight election..you need beat them BLUE.

ODM-K had appointed committee of elders - to come up - with best of candidate. Ntimama, Gumo and host of wazee sat through MOASS scenarios.

Kenya politics is easy. It's  a tribal census. It was obvious ODM-K that had won 56 percent against Kibaki 43 percent in 2005 would beat Kibaki like a drum if only they were to united. If they lost Kalonzo - the margin would be something very close - something like 43-45 percent versus 46-48 percent.

And Raila was told - to step down for Kalonzo - who would have won by 56 percent like 2005.

Ruto delivered the presentation in Kenya Club - and explained to Raila that
 1) Luo/Railas were not electable - or acceptable to many kenyas -- and
 2) Raila was polarizing candidate - and would bring GEMA voting in droves.

Raila and Kajwang wailed. They cried. They shed tears claiming that Luos were kenyan too!

And Raila knew the tie breaker really was going to be Kalenjin and Ruto - and he besieged Ruto at Karen - and had done his ground work while Kalonzo was looking at mirror - and waiting to be crown the most handsome president.

Unfortunately for Raila and Uhuru if he is serious - Raila albatross remain as it were in 2007.
1) Luos Unelectablity- because kenyans fear Luos - their pride and utoto - great fear they will suffocate others. Jaluo Jeuri. Wacha Serikali ikojoea.
2) Raila phobia especially amongst GEMA is deep.

The fear of Kalenjin Moi era return, Kabila mbili and Ruto corruption pale in comparison to Amin Dada Odinga and his marauding gang of Luos taking over people wifes and properties :) - Kalenjin can steal or loot but they are very humble and will stick to their own lane - so despite 24 years in power nobody really was tired with Kalenjin as people - just their incompetence.

That fear extend all to way to Uganda and South Sudan. Museveni has spoken about it freely. It's the elephant in the room nobody want to address.

But Luos can learn from Kikuyus - after 2007 beating from all corners of kenya - Kikuyus have totally reformed - became humble and the arrogance is gone - completely. The new kikuyu is a model citizen. Bado kuna tu wajinga kidogo kama Moses Kuria.


Only hope for Azimio in winning 2022 elections is rigging.
Fact is No Kenyan General election has been won by Rigging. In 2007 ODM rigged in their strongholds(Nyanza) as demonstrated bit still lost fair and square.

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2022, 11:09:41 AM »
No GOK official will pick Rutos phone call on 09/08...All IEBC officials,police,agents,safaricom,airtel,radio,Tv wil be azimio agents..lugha ni moja tu..BABA BABA BABA....to make matters worse even museveni kagame kiir have no time for ruto...as i type this,am headng to jkia for regional lobbying and few deals for BABA...western central nyanza coastal and nairobi is locked up...anybody who believes ruto will be president is dreaming

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2022, 11:37:38 AM »
If wishes were horses..
No GOK official will pick Rutos phone call on 09/08...All IEBC officials,police,agents,safaricom,airtel,radio,Tv wil be azimio agents..lugha ni moja tu..BABA BABA BABA....to make matters worse even museveni kagame kiir have no time for ruto...as i type this,am headng to jkia for regional lobbying and few deals for BABA...western central nyanza coastal and nairobi is locked up...anybody who believes ruto will be president is dreaming

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2022, 11:43:22 AM »

Lol ....These cartoon is entertaining....
No GOK official will pick Rutos phone call on 09/08...All IEBC officials,police,agents,safaricom,airtel,radio,Tv wil be azimio agents..lugha ni moja tu..BABA BABA BABA....to make matters worse even museveni kagame kiir have no time for ruto...as i type this,am headng to jkia for regional lobbying and few deals for BABA...western central nyanza coastal and nairobi is locked up...anybody who believes ruto will be president is dreaming

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2022, 07:34:00 PM »
No GOK official will pick Rutos phone call on 09/08...All IEBC officials,police,agents,safaricom,airtel,radio,Tv wil be azimio agents..lugha ni moja tu..BABA BABA BABA....to make matters worse even museveni kagame kiir have no time for ruto...as i type this,am headng to jkia for regional lobbying and few deals for BABA...western central nyanza coastal and nairobi is locked up...anybody who believes ruto will be president is dreaming
Never met a kikuyu that is for Raila except the ones I hear and see on TV. Most ordinary folks are in UDA or Jubilee, not ODM.
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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2022, 07:37:17 AM »
UDA through Madvd have started crying foul about RIGGING... Yes the better thug wins.Hii ni system ya majambazi.. all is fair in war.

There is no honour among thieves,

Mr Ruto,As you becomes the official opposition leader, take it graciously.

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2022, 09:16:46 AM »
No GOK official will pick Rutos phone call on 09/08...All IEBC officials,police,agents,safaricom,airtel,radio,Tv wil be azimio agents..lugha ni moja tu..BABA BABA BABA....to make matters worse even museveni kagame kiir have no time for ruto...as i type this,am headng to jkia for regional lobbying and few deals for BABA...western central nyanza coastal and nairobi is locked up...anybody who believes ruto will be president is dreaming
Never met a kikuyu that is for Raila except the ones I hear and see on TV. Most ordinary folks are in UDA or Jubilee, not ODM.
How? And you are not on the ground. You are abroad!

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Re: Rigging in 2022 would be easier than 2007.
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2022, 06:13:46 PM »
Chebukati's dumping forms 34a (signed by two azimio and two KK plus returning office on site) on the secure portal one by one was a master stroke. Even if KK or Azimio wanted to steal, it would have remained impossible. Wafula Chebukati will be discussed for a long time!
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