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Charles Njonjo goes west
« on: January 02, 2022, 11:35:08 AM »
With a lot of secrets. Read recently he was Freemason who recruited Moi into club.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2022, 10:54:59 PM »
With a lot of secrets. Read recently he was Freemason who recruited Moi into club.

How come he never grabbed as much as Biwott??
He was a patriot, but at the same time wanted power centralized.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2022, 11:12:04 PM »
Njonjo is miles ahead that Biwott. His family preety much owns Buildings in CBD. He was one of the greatest advocate of transfer of  capital center from Nairobi due to his interests.

With a lot of secrets. Read recently he was Freemason who recruited Moi into club.

How come he never grabbed as much as Biwott??
He was a patriot, but at the same time wanted power centralized.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2022, 04:49:27 AM »
Maybe another Biwott - not Nicholas Biwott - the amount of money biwott stashed abroad is staggering - as he looted kenya from Kenyatta era until 2002. After Kenyattas and Mois - Biwott and Kulei sits very close to number 4 in kenya wealth ranking.
Njonjo is miles ahead that Biwott. His family preety much owns Buildings in CBD. He was one of the greatest advocate of transfer of  capital center from Nairobi due to his interests.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2022, 06:59:31 AM »
Nothing to be proud of...race to the bottom. I do not understand how kibaki never squeezed that thief Biwott or why current institutions cannot squeeze these thieves.
Maybe another Biwott - not Nicholas Biwott - the amount of money biwott stashed abroad is staggering - as he looted kenya from Kenyatta era until 2002. After Kenyattas and Mois - Biwott and Kulei sits very close to number 4 in kenya wealth ranking.
Njonjo is miles ahead that Biwott. His family preety much owns Buildings in CBD. He was one of the greatest advocate of transfer of  capital center from Nairobi due to his interests.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2022, 07:32:28 AM »
With a lot of secrets. Read recently he was Freemason who recruited Moi into club.

How come he never grabbed as much as Biwott??
He was a patriot, but at the same time wanted power centralized.

He is what is wrong in Kenya. Njonjo someone with very little education even by those days standards was a British stooge and his goal was to make sure the British kept control of key aspects of Kenya leadership in political, social and economic sectors. In Judiciary he fought against nationalization and in economy he fought kenyanazation. He is the bastrad that was used to break EAC community. He representative of South African BOERS in Kenyan economy.

He was an uncle tom of the highest order. I bet you he hated Kibaki because he couldn't counter his brilliance and Kibaki could see through his nonsense. Kenyatta who had been caputured by kikuyu collabrators was a captive of Njonjo. Njonjo as AG made sure Kenyatta did whatever he wanted. When GEMA tried to stop moi from ascending to power Njonjo stopped him in hope he could later take power from Moi was a cluelesss idiot. This never happened as Njonjo was an Egomaniac that couldn't work with anyone else. When news leaked he had plans to overthrow moi, the military that had similar plans moved up their plans to counter his and that how 1982 coup ended up failing

any it is fucks like Njonjo that have stopped Kenyan progress. It just emerged recently that Njonjo and Kiereini were stealing from CMC by under invoicing to avoid taxes and were sending the differencce offshore. May he rot in hell

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2022, 09:55:38 AM »
Maybe another Biwott - not Nicholas Biwott - the amount of money biwott stashed abroad is staggering - as he looted kenya from Kenyatta era until 2002. After Kenyattas and Mois - Biwott and Kulei sits very close to number 4 in kenya wealth ranking.
Njonjo is miles ahead that Biwott. His family preety much owns Buildings in CBD. He was one of the greatest advocate of transfer of  capital center from Nairobi due to his interests.
Your 22 Mursik is quite concentrated. That you wrote was true in the early 2000 to 2010. Now the owners of wealth in Kenya are different. Only Mois and Kenyattas would make top 10. Biwott Family long blew up. Sold kenol kobil after garnering lots of losses,sold many assets. Wealth now is concentrated on new guys. Who is Kulei? No one even knows h nowadays. Pundit ngo slow bana na bar talk from bomet.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2022, 10:05:15 AM »
Pundit you have to differentiate your enthusiasm for posting concocted panganga here after binge drinking and differentiate reality.
I have come to see you stuck in the 90s of course that was a golden era for you guys. But we in 22,guys like Ndichu twins easily could up Kulei a big name but redundant. Any corrupt money stashed abroad by Mois regime has no future it can be swiftly detained and owners rendered bankrupt overnight. You need to come to tandem with current Economic dynamics that are 360 degree. Ask yourself how do the current rich maintain their wealth answer is simple they are constantly producing and creating new wealth constantly. If you and your billions hid money abroad then that money is as good as non existent coz it cant be used to reproduce,most likely it will be siphoned out slowly to avoid detection until its finished. Look at all the wealthiest people in the world they own some  sort of production. Alon Musk with Tesla, Bill gate,Dangote etc even the Kenyatta's are associated with production. But what does biwott and Kulei produce. Take it from Me even Moi another 15 years down the line he won't last in 20 most wealthiest in Kenya. Differentiate man.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2022, 12:45:24 PM »
Njuri any new wealth the old wealth invest in..I think you're ignorant if you don't know how rich Biwott and Kuleis...those folks who own serious properties abroad.When they sold like 10 percent of safaricom..or kenolkobil you think they drank the money in busaa .they

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2022, 02:40:44 PM »
Njuri any new wealth the old wealth invest in..I think you're ignorant if you don't know how rich Biwott and Kuleis...those folks who own serious properties abroad.When they sold like 10 percent of safaricom..or kenolkobil you think they drank the money in busaa .they
You arguments are what iwould call tunnel visioned. Okay lets say they have x1000s of properties in the west lets say making them 1 million dollars each month,that would be a constant line on the graph not going up just flat. Now remember how the property markets in the west especially after 2008 suffered a melt down overnight billion of dollars wiped out in their worth. Up to now properties haven't recovered  when bubble bust. Owners were left with worthless concrete and land everything has been up for sale.
Now ofcourse Kulei and Biwott are nowhere close to owning x1000 of properties abroad or even in Kenya,maybe at most would be 50 each if at all
Now property market shifted to china where even the largest property companies face liquidation and collapse. China was last hope for properties market.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+real+estate+company&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ2O25vpX1AhV5QvEDHUrbASoQ_AUIBigB

Now compare that with people who are constantly churning out production of new items and sevices to keep up with supply and demand in New markets allover the world
My argument is owning property can't create new wealth unless you sell and convert into liquid cash and invest in new ventures that grow wealth. I don't need to explain more on this I think you know already. Please be objective this new year.

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2022, 07:38:25 PM »
Old money hire investment and wealth management to invest in New money and retain their wealth from inflation.They don't go shopping for apartments..unless it for personal use.. investment decisions are done by wallstreets WizKids .When they cash out say 100m dollars it wired to trusted banks whose job is to generate day 10 percent per annum... otherwise those guys already bought all the land and the house they want.Kulei was moi personal assistant since he became dpork in 67 and biwott the official assistant..both took  one third of Mzee money until the sons woke up in 90s and aggressively kicked both out.1967 to 2003 is nearly four decades of stealing at top or near top..using red telephone.Generally 10 percent of any serious contract or project or investment is reserved for big guy..Ruto took his 50 percent share of 10 percent in last election..kibaki and folks took theirs..uhuru is taking his as we speak..next gov will take the ceasar cut.The rest eat crumbs that top guy is not interested because it lots of work to steal everything..so they focus on big ticket with huge payoff..10 percent of sgr is clean 50B.. Nairobi expressway is clean 10B..so few such deals you're at 100B..uhuru you can bet is now a dollar billionaire and like biwotts daughter will forfeit Kenyatta's family wealth..for fear of nasty fights..he has made clean billion dollar at the minimum while fooling Raila.Ruto probably made half a billion dollars in first term or very close

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2022, 07:57:06 PM »
Comparing biwotts,Kenyatta's,kuleis and moi with njonjo is totally wrong..those four run global operations in https://niketafazal.wordpress.com/richest-top-in-kenya-are-presidential-families-and-associates/

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2022, 04:07:09 AM »
Why hasn't Charles Marsham been arrested in Canada or why has no one gone after his ill gotten wealth? given what we are hearing about things like the panama papers etc? I'm surprised no private group has gone after him given the fact that he no longer has the political protection in Kenya.

In terms of who has what...i'm sure they all have a lot. I mean Moi and Njonjo both died at 100! I hear Amos Wako had like 100 million at citibank 20 years ago that's probably now worth $500 million. Kenyan voters are the biggest fools and biggest losers

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Re: Charles Njonjo goes west
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2022, 07:16:52 AM »
The Kuleis own serious property in Nairobi, let alone abroad. They're involved in quite a number of the shiny buildings that have sprung up in the city over the past decade or two.