LSK chair Havi joins UDA

[RV Pundit]

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Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

[Kadudu]

Havi is a big win for UDA. He brings a lot of brains and humility with him to the UDA block.

Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

[Pragmatic]

Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

[Kadudu]

Am even surprised by Havi's naivety or maybe he is calculating with manna from Hustler's heaven.

[RV Pundit]

Hasira ya nini. Havi has been on the ground. The ground is UDA in Nairobi. I was in Nairobi too - the ground is UDA. Even in Western - Ruto is very popular.

There is lot of Raila fatigue...

[GeeMail]

We know one loser in Westland 2022 elections. I dont mention name.

[KenyanPlato]

Havi is looking to make money. He is just a greedy petty criminal. He has the bipolar girlfriend who was exposing his shenigans on Twitter. She said that Havi was at one time poisoned by a client after he ate the bribe money he had given him to pay the judge. From I understand he has been working for ruto at lsk. Ruto people knew how unprincipled he was and used him to capture lsk

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

[Pragmatic]

RVHH.... this is where you guys keep lying to yourself that Baba is nothing without Kikuyu hate!! This is what you have been preaching to the Kikuyu Youth in Mt. Kenya that Baba is PORK (President of Republic of Kenya indeed), kimundu etc.... Keep deluding yourself and we love that music. Truth is between Baba and Ruto, Baba is more trusted than Ruto can ever hope to be/achieve (even in his lifetime), and the Luhyas know where to put that trust.

No way Westlands Luhyas will vote UDA. That said huge miscalculation by Havi. In any case, the cosmopolitan Westlands can't countenance a so-called Hustler nightmare, most of those Mhimdis (90%) will vote Baba. So, what is Havi's calculation here?? And don't forget, he would have done better or would have been more appealing if he was on ANC, at least some "woiyee" votes from a couple of Luhyas... explains why Sakaja has already given up hope of any elective seat in Nairobi, he understand the maths better; anyway we understand Havi's move is just opening the way for Musalia's eventual landing at UDA as he is said to be headed there!

Take this to the Bank, the Luhya part of Nairobi (and country-wide) will predominantly/solidly vote for Baba.

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

[RV Pundit]

All opinion done so far shows Ruto is more popular than Raila in western...
Even if we give Raila all luhya votes; Ruto still beat him;
Give him all Ukambani votes; Ruto still beat him.
In 2013 - UhuRuto scored 4 percent in western - that is almost only Sabaot and kikuyu diaspora votes - zero luhya - still UhuRuto won. Kambas did the same. Repeat and rinse. LOST again. 2007 lost again.
People have done these maths; and have given up on perennial loser.
Raila refusal to contest in repeat election marked his political end.

The rest are details.

Today if Uhuru pulls the plug - like he is likely to do - Ruto will win 2022 unopposed

Not that there is any opposition. Babu is doing badly despite state machinery propping him. Once Ruto has hit 50 percent - the rest are irrelevant details.

When it come to Westland - HAVI - has been on the ground - I have been following twitter. He can only have made this move this because UDA is very popular in Nairobi. Tim going for governorship should have seen him stay with Musalia's ANC - but no - UDA is big wave - he has got the message loud and clear.

What Ruto has done is very similar Sonko playbook.... play tribeless class divide and demonstrate seriousness by financing it. Hustler movement started in Nairobi. Such revolution is impossible to beat....Raila is trying everything to copy Hustler Movement but people know he is a fakery...his heart lies with useless BBI.

As for Sakaja - Nairobi will be taken by a Kikuyu this time round. They cannot go forgo PORK and Nairobi Governor. It's going to be Wanjiru...versus Peter Kenneth or Dennis Waweru..whoever Kamanda think would be ideal poodle...that is why Kamanda is keeping close tabs on poor Jakom...as soon as Raila endorse Kamanda candidate..he can go jump into lake victoria.

On good day - Weta's brother Tim Wanyonyi would win Nairobi - he is liked for his development record. I would vote Tim myself. But given UDA start with solid Wanjiru - wanjiru takes it - as NASA/OKA/Kamanda crew split their votes.

RVHH.... this is where you guys keep lying to yourself that Baba is nothing without Kikuyu hate!! This is what you have been preaching to the Kikuyu Youth in Mt. Kenya that Baba is PORK (President of Republic of Kenya indeed), kimundu etc.... Keep deluding yourself and we love that music. Truth is between Baba and Ruto, Baba is more trusted than Ruto can ever hope to be/achieve (even in his lifetime), and the Luhyas know where to put that trust.

No way Westlands Luhyas will vote UDA. That said huge miscalculation by Havi. In any case, the cosmopolitan Westlands can't countenance a so-called Hustler nightmare, most of those Mhimdis (90%) will vote Baba. So, what is Havi's calculation here?? And don't forget, he would have done better or would have been more appealing if he was on ANC, at least some "woiyee" votes from a couple of Luhyas... explains why Sakaja has already given up hope of any elective seat in Nairobi, he understand the maths better; anyway we understand Havi's move is just opening the way for Musalia's eventual landing at UDA as he is said to be headed there!

Take this to the Bank, the Luhya part of Nairobi (and country-wide) will predominantly/solidly vote for Baba.

[Nowayhaha]

We said several times. Kenyan politics is built on the Premises of Gema vs Anti Gema and since 2007 evolved to Raila anti Raila.
Now 2022 elections is simple remove strong Gema candidate from equation you have the Anti Gema voters confused .Remove Raila from equation you have Anti Raila voters confused. However  Raila backers must make Raila run for their own selfish benefits  and with that you have Anti Gema voters scattered and Anti Raila voters intact ready to do what they have been doinf for the last 15 years.

Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

[Pragmatic]

Pundit 

All opinion done so far shows Ruto is more popular than Raila in western...
Even if we give Raila all luhya votes; Ruto still beat him;
Give him all Ukambani votes; Ruto still beat him.
In 2013 - UhuRuto scored 4 percent in western - that is almost only Sabaot and kikuyu diaspora votes - zero luhya - still UhuRuto won. Kambas did the same. Repeat and rinse. LOST again. 2007 lost again.
People have done these maths; and have given up on perennial loser.
Raila refusal to contest in repeat election marked his political end.

The rest are details.

Today if Uhuru pulls the plug - like he is likely to do - Ruto will win 2022 unopposed

Not that there is any opposition. Babu is doing badly despite state machinery propping him. Once Ruto has hit 50 percent - the rest are irrelevant details.

When it come to Westland - HAVI - has been on the ground - I have been following twitter. He can only have made this move this because UDA is very popular in Nairobi. Tim going for governorship should have seen him stay with Musalia's ANC - but no - UDA is big wave - he has got the message loud and clear.

What Ruto has done is very similar Sonko playbook.... play tribeless class divide and demonstrate seriousness by financing it. Hustler movement started in Nairobi. Such revolution is impossible to beat....Raila is trying everything to copy Hustler Movement but people know he is a fakery...his heart lies with useless BBI.

As for Sakaja - Nairobi will be taken by a Kikuyu this time round. They cannot go forgo PORK and Nairobi Governor. It's going to be Wanjiru...versus Peter Kenneth or Dennis Waweru..whoever Kamanda think would be ideal poodle...that is why Kamanda is keeping close tabs on poor Jakom...as soon as Raila endorse Kamanda candidate..he can go jump into lake victoria.

On good day - Weta's brother Tim Wanyonyi would win Nairobi - he is liked for his development record. I would vote Tim myself. But given UDA start with solid Wanjiru - wanjiru takes it - as NASA/OKA/Kamanda crew split their votes.

[Gikomba_Hawker]

My main concern with this announcement is that I hope Havi does not manipulate things so as to seem that LSK is endorsing Ruto. This would be a very stupid mistake. LSK should put out a statement that Havi is acting in his private capacity. Ruto is the last person who should be associated with LSK, given his Youth for Kanu '92 background, ICC issue and other things.

NGOs that promote the rule of law should keep a very close eye on this. Don't let the Kenyan public be fooled into associating Ruto with LSK. This is between Ruto and Havi (the individual). Nothing more.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

My main concern with this announcement is that I hope Havi does not manipulate things so as to seem that LSK is endorsing Ruto. This would be a very stupid mistake. LSK should put out a statement that Havi is acting in his private capacity. Ruto is the last person who should be associated with LSK, given his Youth for Kanu '92 background, ICC issue and other things.

NGOs that promote the rule of law should keep a very close eye on this. Don't let the Kenyan public be fooled into associating Ruto with LSK. This is between Ruto and Havi (the individual). Nothing more.

Ruto was sanitized by opposing BBI vehemently. The whole Judiciary, from Maraga, Mutunga, HaviI, and LSK fraternity, except a few miscreants, are on DP's corner. There is no more enormous fraud visited upon people of Kenya than BBI. Thanks, DP; the shining armor was there to deploy his political muscle to destroy it. LSK fraternity is entirely behind DP!

[Gikomba_Hawker]

Keep dreaming. You remind me of your other half (RV Pundit) who claimed here recently that Ruto cannot be retried by the ICC!

My main concern with this announcement is that I hope Havi does not manipulate things so as to seem that LSK is endorsing Ruto. This would be a very stupid mistake. LSK should put out a statement that Havi is acting in his private capacity. Ruto is the last person who should be associated with LSK, given his Youth for Kanu '92 background, ICC issue and other things.

NGOs that promote the rule of law should keep a very close eye on this. Don't let the Kenyan public be fooled into associating Ruto with LSK. This is between Ruto and Havi (the individual). Nothing more.

Ruto was sanitized by opposing BBI vehemently. The whole Judiciary, from Maraga, Mutunga, HaviI, and LSK fraternity, except a few miscreants, are on DP's corner. There is no more enormous fraud visited upon people of Kenya than BBI. Thanks, DP; the shining armor was there to deploy his political muscle to destroy it. LSK fraternity is entirely behind DP!

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

RVHH.... this is where you guys keep lying to yourself that Baba is nothing without Kikuyu hate!! This is what you have been preaching to the Kikuyu Youth in Mt. Kenya that Baba is PORK (President of Republic of Kenya indeed), kimundu etc.... Keep deluding yourself and we love that music. Truth is between Baba and Ruto, Baba is more trusted than Ruto can ever hope to be/achieve (even in his lifetime), and the Luhyas know where to put that trust.

No way Westlands Luhyas will vote UDA. That said huge miscalculation by Havi. In any case, the cosmopolitan Westlands can't countenance a so-called Hustler nightmare, most of those Mhimdis (90%) will vote Baba. So, what is Havi's calculation here?? And don't forget, he would have done better or would have been more appealing if he was on ANC, at least some "woiyee" votes from a couple of Luhyas... explains why Sakaja has already given up hope of any elective seat in Nairobi, he understand the maths better; anyway we understand Havi's move is just opening the way for Musalia's eventual landing at UDA as he is said to be headed there!

Take this to the Bank, the Luhya part of Nairobi (and country-wide) will predominantly/solidly vote for Baba.

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

Muhindis and other tribes in wastelands, especially kyuks, have no problem with DP. In Nairobi and other cosmopolitan areas, maybe Luos, are opposed to Ruto. Like I said, without GEMA at the top and BUBU not campaigning on Kikuyu hate for the first time, some shifts will shock people. DP has connections in every hood, including Luhyas of Nairobi. If Mudavadi, Wamalwa, and Weta fail to join Bubu, Luhyas of Nairobi and everywhere will migrate to UDA. Muhindis thrived during Mois and had no reason to panic under another Kalenjin! With Shiro running on UDA, all Kikuyus in Nairobi will put their votes in one basket. Sonko, too, will endorse UDA and campaign hard when the time comes.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Keep dreaming. You remind me of your other half (RV Pundit) who claimed here recently that Ruto cannot be retried by the ICC!

My main concern with this announcement is that I hope Havi does not manipulate things so as to seem that LSK is endorsing Ruto. This would be a very stupid mistake. LSK should put out a statement that Havi is acting in his private capacity. Ruto is the last person who should be associated with LSK, given his Youth for Kanu '92 background, ICC issue and other things.

NGOs that promote the rule of law should keep a very close eye on this. Don't let the Kenyan public be fooled into associating Ruto with LSK. This is between Ruto and Havi (the individual). Nothing more.

Ruto was sanitized by opposing BBI vehemently. The whole Judiciary, from Maraga, Mutunga, HaviI, and LSK fraternity, except a few miscreants, are on DP's corner. There is no more enormous fraud visited upon people of Kenya than BBI. Thanks, DP; the shining armor was there to deploy his political muscle to destroy it. LSK fraternity is entirely behind DP!

You are the one dreaming. ICC's top prosecutor (Mr Khan) is DP's errand boy. They chat on a weekly, and I doubt he will entertain Ruto's prosecution under his watch!

[Gikomba_Hawker]

Wishful thinking mixed with the typical cult of personality type thinking which is what Ruto's fanatical online supporters always use to get us past Ruto's thuggishness. Will it work?

RVHH.... this is where you guys keep lying to yourself that Baba is nothing without Kikuyu hate!! This is what you have been preaching to the Kikuyu Youth in Mt. Kenya that Baba is PORK (President of Republic of Kenya indeed), kimundu etc.... Keep deluding yourself and we love that music. Truth is between Baba and Ruto, Baba is more trusted than Ruto can ever hope to be/achieve (even in his lifetime), and the Luhyas know where to put that trust.

No way Westlands Luhyas will vote UDA. That said huge miscalculation by Havi. In any case, the cosmopolitan Westlands can't countenance a so-called Hustler nightmare, most of those Mhimdis (90%) will vote Baba. So, what is Havi's calculation here?? And don't forget, he would have done better or would have been more appealing if he was on ANC, at least some "woiyee" votes from a couple of Luhyas... explains why Sakaja has already given up hope of any elective seat in Nairobi, he understand the maths better; anyway we understand Havi's move is just opening the way for Musalia's eventual landing at UDA as he is said to be headed there!

Take this to the Bank, the Luhya part of Nairobi (and country-wide) will predominantly/solidly vote for Baba.

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

Muhindis and other tribes in wastelands, especially kyuks, have no problem with DP. In Nairobi and other cosmopolitan areas, maybe Luos, are opposed to Ruto. Like I said, without GEMA at the top and BUBU not campaigning on Kikuyu hate for the first time, some shifts will shock people. DP has connections in every hood, including Luhyas of Nairobi. If Mudavadi, Wamalwa, and Weta fail to join Bubu, Luhyas of Nairobi and everywhere will migrate to UDA. Muhindis thrived during Mois and had no reason to panic under another Kalenjin! With Shiro running on UDA, all Kikuyus in Nairobi will put their votes in one basket. Sonko, too, will endorse UDA and campaign hard when the time comes.

[Gikomba_Hawker]

A hustler can also be a thief. He can also be a killer. He can also be someone who fights against democracy until it suits him.

What is so special about the "hustler" word?

I hope you are not implying that Ruto is an honest hustler. Please!

Nairobi UDA and Ruto is very popular because of Hustler Nation is essentially a urban narrative. Despite attempt to demonize the word - most Nairobeans call themselves proudly hustlers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-22-photos-nelson-havi-officially-joins-rutos-uda/

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Wishful thinking mixed with the typical cult of personality type thinking which is what Ruto's fanatical online supporters always use to get us past Ruto's thuggishness. Will it work?

RVHH.... this is where you guys keep lying to yourself that Baba is nothing without Kikuyu hate!! This is what you have been preaching to the Kikuyu Youth in Mt. Kenya that Baba is PORK (President of Republic of Kenya indeed), kimundu etc.... Keep deluding yourself and we love that music. Truth is between Baba and Ruto, Baba is more trusted than Ruto can ever hope to be/achieve (even in his lifetime), and the Luhyas know where to put that trust.

No way Westlands Luhyas will vote UDA. That said huge miscalculation by Havi. In any case, the cosmopolitan Westlands can't countenance a so-called Hustler nightmare, most of those Mhimdis (90%) will vote Baba. So, what is Havi's calculation here?? And don't forget, he would have done better or would have been more appealing if he was on ANC, at least some "woiyee" votes from a couple of Luhyas... explains why Sakaja has already given up hope of any elective seat in Nairobi, he understand the maths better; anyway we understand Havi's move is just opening the way for Musalia's eventual landing at UDA as he is said to be headed there!

Take this to the Bank, the Luhya part of Nairobi (and country-wide) will predominantly/solidly vote for Baba.

ODM's anti-kikuyu platform suddenly struggles when there is no Kikuyu Presidential candidate. Westland's, the Luhya part of Nairobi has no problem with DP, the Kalenjin. The ground will shift until watu watalia. Even coast was following ODM mostly because of subtle anti-kikuyuism

Muhindis and other tribes in wastelands, especially kyuks, have no problem with DP. In Nairobi and other cosmopolitan areas, maybe Luos, are opposed to Ruto. Like I said, without GEMA at the top and BUBU not campaigning on Kikuyu hate for the first time, some shifts will shock people. DP has connections in every hood, including Luhyas of Nairobi. If Mudavadi, Wamalwa, and Weta fail to join Bubu, Luhyas of Nairobi and everywhere will migrate to UDA. Muhindis thrived during Mois and had no reason to panic under another Kalenjin! With Shiro running on UDA, all Kikuyus in Nairobi will put their votes in one basket. Sonko, too, will endorse UDA and campaign hard when the time comes.

You have to give it to DP. He is running for the first time and he is shaking the whole system, including Raila who is running for the fifth time.