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Offline Nowayhaha

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Tell me where on earth  the below voter turn out can happen. And it happened in one region - This was systemic . Not related to any Ruto and violence in Rift Valley.
Mt Kenya hold Raila accountable of 2007 P.E.V. nothing to do with Ruto .Dont turn this thread to a violence thread which is your habit once your myths are debunked .

Karachuonyo-Turnout       95.37 %
Ndhiwa -Turnout        93.74 %
Nyatike -Turnout       94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout       95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout        92.68 %


You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.

ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials or villagers just rigging. This is Okay. That kind of rigging is hard to stop.

It not Orange House rigging. It's NOT Raila making a phone call to Awendo Primary School to be rigged - it's Awendo villagers deciding to give Raila all the votes - by colluding with junior IEBC staff and agents.

How can you therefore blame Raila for such stronghold rigging - it's like blaming Ruto for kalenjin warriors deciding to kill their political rivals. It was not Raila fault if Luo Nyanza decided to rig at granular level. It's not Ruto fault if kalenjin decide to go on killing rampage.

It doesnt dissaprove rigging , It actually confirms Raila and ODM rigged heavily in their strong - Only in Luo Nyanza had places with 95 % Voter Turn Out .
ODM also started announcing results through media friendly stations like KTN when they had not been verified . One reason in 2013 and 2017  Media houses were asked only to rely on results from IEBC was because of this reason .
Part   of ODMs strategy was to send in rigged in results from their stronghold and then claim they had won so that PNU plays catch up game and concedes early . PNU patience helped them in 2007 unlike Uhurus 2002 he conceded even when results had not been counted or announced .

Like it or Not Raila heavily stole 2007 votes . 
 
How does it disapprove rigging?
What was rigged - was obvious - observers, agents, the media - in those constituencies filled different results.
The dead give away was the hoarding or holding of mt kenya constituencies until ODM zones had come in
So they would know the top up required.
 
Isiolo North -Turnout      64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout       79.95  %
Igembe South -Turnout       76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout      75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout       74.64 %
Tigania East  Turnout       78.81  %
Buret -Turnout      85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout      -57.78  %
South Imenti -Turnout      83.06  %
NITHI -Turnout      79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout      72.17  %
Manyatta Turnout      72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout      80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout      75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout      -80.29  %










Offline Nowayhaha

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Kadudu my question is very clear  - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not  ?  forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question  .

You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.

The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?

That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.

You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.

ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.

It not Orange House rigging.

Offline RV Pundit

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This kind of rigging happens in strongholds. Anywhere a candidate scores 97 percent - then such rigging are expected. They are indeed systemic - not engineered by Raila or ODM - but by Kenyans.

If you check turnout in Mt kenya - you will find similar patterns like Luo Nyanza - when they have their own candidate.

It's either people really mobilize - and also little rigging here and there.

Such rigging are not attributable to ODM party or Raila - it's just Kenya lack of moral ethic or importance of election in the election wars.

The parrellel i am giving you is tribal violence. It doesnt have to be planned.

Tell me where on earth  the below voter turn out can happen. And it happened in one region - This was systemic . Not related to any Ruto and violence in Rift Valley.
Mt Kenya hold Raila accountable of 2007 P.E.V. nothing to do with Ruto .Dont turn this thread to a violence thread which is your habit once your myths are debunked .

Karachuonyo-Turnout       95.37 %
Ndhiwa -Turnout        93.74 %
Nyatike -Turnout       94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout       95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout        92.68 %



Offline Nowayhaha

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I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?

I cant help it. I cannot understand why someone would lie for politician or for political stuff or for tribe? If rigging happens in my kapsenger primary - and I witness it - I will say it.

Nowayaha tribalism is so ingrained it amazing the length he goes to protect uthamaki :)

Now re-writting history.

Man Kibaki rigged. Moi rigged. Kibaki did it brazenly and spark a war. 1992 I heard of ballot stuffing from my dad. 1997 I heard Kones in loud speaker asking people to go vote the next day - until all ECK materials were out - then Moi had forced ECK to extend voting day after some polling stations did not get materials.

Politician are thieves. Our own family members are also thieves.

Politician rigs. Innocent villagers also rig.

You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.

The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?

That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.

You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.

ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.

It not Orange House rigging.

Offline RV Pundit

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ODM was in how many regions? Raila did not rig. Luos rigged. Even next year I expect Luos to rig for Raila - because IEBC staff, agents and name them - will all be Luos and ODM. It not unlikely that they will add 20 or 30 votes in every polling stations....on their OWN INITIATIVE.
Kadudu my question is very clear  - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not  ?  forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question  .

Offline RV Pundit

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No. Stronghold rigging has little to do with party. Any area where a candidate enjoy 98 percent - hapo rigging can happen. My father, mother and one guy use to be 3 voters who Kibaki use to get in const. So I know this kind of stuff. Any kibaki vote - would either be contested or just be dismissed as spoiled vote.

IEBC recruit local staff - any IEBC staff in Luo Nyanza is ODM/Raila guy - he doesnt need any ODM phonecall to ensure baba get MAXIMUM support - agents wote ni ODM - observers wote ni ODM-kila mtu ni want Baba to get max support.

They are very few say POs who are very strict and have high integrity - and those ones will refuse. Those are very few rare kenyans.

You are clearly NOT ONE OF THEM. You have zero integrity. You're here to defend tribe and kibaki against all LOGIC.

Like I said support Ruto - but please do not say he is not a THIEF :) - Hiyo UMBEYA :)

Support Kibaki - but admit he rigged.

It's either you have zero MORALS or you're VERY LOW IQ.

ODMorons wengine think Raila is NOT CORRUPT - while he is super corrupt.

LOW IQ or ZERO integrity.

I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?

Offline Nowayhaha

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Thanks for confirming Raila and ODM rigged 2007 elections .

ODM was in how many regions? Raila did not rig. Luos rigged. Even next year I expect Luos to rig for Raila - because IEBC staff, agents and name them - will all be Luos and ODM. It not unlikely that they will add 20 or 30 votes in every polling stations....on their OWN INITIATIVE.
Kadudu my question is very clear  - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not  ?  forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question  .

Offline Nowayhaha

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Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .

No. Stronghold rigging has little to do with party. Any area where a candidate enjoy 98 percent - hapo rigging can happen. My father, mother and one guy use to be 3 voters who Kibaki use to get in const. So I know this kind of stuff. Any kibaki vote - would either be contested or just be dismissed as spoiled vote.

IEBC recruit local staff - any IEBC staff in Luo Nyanza is ODM/Raila guy - he doesnt need any ODM phonecall to ensure baba get MAXIMUM support - agents wote ni ODM - observers wote ni ODM-kila mtu ni want Baba to get max support.

They are very few say POs who are very strict and have high integrity - and those ones will refuse. Those are very few rare kenyans.

You are clearly NOT ONE OF THEM. You have zero integrity. You're here to defend tribe and kibaki against all LOGIC.

Like I said support Ruto - but please do not say he is not a THIEF :) - Hiyo UMBEYA :)

Support Kibaki - but admit he rigged.

It's either you have zero MORALS or you're VERY LOW IQ.


I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?

Offline RV Pundit

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There is no evidence that ODM as a party or Raila rigged. There is evidence that vote turnout in Luo Nyanza is suspicious and we know they most likely padded figures.
It's like Ruto and PEV. There is no denying that ODM supporters rigged and killed. But the link to Raila or Ruto is tenuous.

For kibaki it's different - the LINK IS STRONG.

Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .

Offline Nowayhaha

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Boss reread the below statement and you will see hypocrisy in it .  Delink Kibaki and Ruto from Nyanza rigging and you will see crystal clear ODM and Raila rigged 2007 election in their strongholds

There is no evidence that ODM as a party or Raila rigged. There is evidence that vote turnout in Luo Nyanza is suspicious and we know they most likely padded figures.
It's like Ruto and PEV. There is no denying that ODM supporters rigged and killed. But the link to Raila or Ruto is tenuous.

For kibaki it's different - the LINK IS STRONG.

Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .

Offline Nowayhaha

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This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections

Ugenya -Turnout       76.35 %
Alego-Turnout       88.11 %
Gem -Turnout        77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout        85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout       77.04  %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout       74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout       67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout       84.51 %
Nyando Turnout       82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout       72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout        88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout       95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout        87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout        93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout       85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout       87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout       94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout       95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout        92.68 %


     

Offline RV Pundit

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I wish you could check turnout for 2005/2002/1997/1992 - some of those areas historical had high turnout - but I wont rule out rigging - there were no PNU agents.

This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections

Ugenya -Turnout       76.35 %
Alego-Turnout       88.11 %
Gem -Turnout        77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout        85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout       77.04  %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout       74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout       67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout       84.51 %
Nyando Turnout       82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout       72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout        88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout       95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout        87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout        93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout       85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout       87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout       94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout       95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout        92.68 %


     

Offline Nowayhaha

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Thats it case closed.

I wish you could check turnout for 2005/2002/1997/1992 - some of those areas historical had high turnout - but I wont rule out rigging - there were no PNU agents.

This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections

Ugenya -Turnout       76.35 %
Alego-Turnout       88.11 %
Gem -Turnout        77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout        85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout       77.04  %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout       74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout       67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout       84.51 %
Nyando Turnout       82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout       72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout        88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout       95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout        87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout        93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout       85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout       87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout       94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout       95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout        92.68 %


     

Offline RV Pundit

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So I also participated in ODM rigging - this was MOASS 2007 - and I predicted such turnout. I generally predicted 10 percent increase in turnout from historical or 2005 average in most areas....with Luo and Kikuyu stronghold doing 15 percent more...because the candidate was theirs.

And this was what exactly played out except in Central - where turnout was off the charts (rigged)

MOAS 2007 - Sept Edition.

NYANZA PROV   Reg Votes 05   % Turn Out(05)   Exp Turn Out
Mbita    31172   71.60%   83.600%
Bobasi    64861   40.90%   55.900%
Gwassi    28494   65.10%   80.100%
Kuria    49555   52.10%   57.100%
Nyatike    42245   89.10%   96.100%
Bomachoge    57997   39.50%   44.500%
Rongo    58942   77.50%   89.500%
Bonchari    34278   45.10%   50.100%
Nyaribari Masaba    46239   41.20%   46.200%
Nyaribari Chache    51460   39.00%   44.000%
Kitutu Chache    67900   42.00%   47.000%
Kitutu Masaba    65854   41.50%   46.500%
West Mugirango    55295   43.20%   48.200%
South Mugirango    47162   39.70%   44.700%
Rarieda    43718   58.10%   73.100%
Uriri    34187   80.80%   95.800%
Migori    52589   74.30%   89.300%
Ugenya    70162   54.10%   69.100%
Bondo    47928   59.30%   74.300%
Kisumu Town East    44248   53.50%   68.500%
Kisumu Town West    71477   45.70%   60.700%
Kisumu Rural    43012   58.30%   73.300%
Nyando    44712   68.00%   83.000%
Gem    51920   52.70%   67.700%
Nyakach    45704   67.30%   82.300%
Kasipul Kabondo    64355   72.30%   87.300%
Karachuonyo    52606   78.40%   93.400%
Rangwe    60453   66.60%   81.600%
Ndhiwa    51301   74.60%   89.600%
Muhoroni    48009   59.50%   74.500%
Alego    66481   59.10%   74.100%
   1594316      70.035%



Thats it case closed.

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Good work Noway. This is more proof that Kibaki won the election marred by voter rigging in RV and nyanza

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Rv instead of yapping. Tell us the rigging figures carried out by ODM we compare.

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There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.
Rv instead of yapping. Tell us the rigging figures carried out by ODM we compare.

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Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.

There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.

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Yes I also expected for them to argue that rigging was neccessary evil to stop Raila - Michuki at least was honest.

Martha led the rigging by appointing PNU commission - with only poor ECK Chair KIvuti helpless.

Main rigging was done by AP commandant Kinuthia Mbugua and NIS director of then.

Some rigging was being done in KICC by commissioners. While most of it were Returning Officers being to forced to delay the release and alter figures live live - with threats or bribery.

Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.