If Maa and Pokot inciters had been UDA - ile propaganda

[RV Pundit]

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Kamama is of course only MP to support Gideon - KANU won in Pokot because Ruto took a stern stance on Pokot Cattle rustling - so they elected KANU and voted Jakom mostly. The former Laikipia North Mp is of course ODM damu. They know reckless Raila if he become PORK will set Maasai on the immigrants - and Maasai will kick out folks.

Meanwhile Kioni-Matiangi are spreading fake propaganda that guns are from Uganda and bullets from eldoret - like Ruto is already the Commander in Chief of kenya and uganda defence forces.

[Kadudu]

What is the connection between your finger pointing and the photo?

Kamama is of course only MP to support Gideon - KANU won in Pokot because Ruto took a stern stance on Pokot Cattle rustling - so they elected KANU and voted Jakom mostly. The former Laikipia North Mp is of course ODM damu. They know reckless Raila if he become PORK will set Maasai on the immigrants - and Maasai will kick out folks.

Meanwhile Kioni-Matiangi are spreading fake propaganda that guns are from Uganda and bullets from eldoret - like Ruto is already the Commander in Chief of kenya and uganda defence forces.

[RV Pundit]

Optics. Why is Raila hosting someone accused of inciting tribal killings in Laikipia - not once - but several times. If it was Ruto?

What is the connection between your finger pointing and the photo?

[Kadudu]

You are expecting too much from Kenyan politicians even after giving them the green light to steal from Kenyans.

The problem is in Kenya nothing is solved to its very end. A politician is accused of inciting violence after people are killed, the politician is then arrested, questioned then frog marched to court. Later realeased on bond and the case ends there. So what does an accusation of inciting violence say in Kenya? Nothing as nothing comes out of it.

Optics. Why is Raila hosting someone accused of inciting tribal killings in Laikipia - not once - but several times. If it was Ruto?

[vooke]

Looter is crossing his fingers that the operation flops so he may paint serikal as anti-raia/hasora

[RV Pundit]

Any Kalenjin knows such kind of things are taboo subject. Nobody will talk about it - it one of those damned either way thing. And operation will definitely flop. The herders have retreated to their caves. Once the police relax - they will hit them. This has been going on for 10yrs now in Laikipia. Same modus operandi.

If anybody think they will defeat pokot bandits; then they need quick history lesson; British tried and failed; Kenyatta; Moi; Kibaki; Uhuru and next gov will try and fail.

The solution has to be something other than shooting them.

Looter is crossing his fingers that the operation flops so he may paint serikal as anti-raia/hasora

[vooke]

Any Kalenjin knows such kind of things are taboo subject. Nobody will talk about it - it one of those damned either way thing. And operation will definitely flop. The herders have retreated to their caves. Once the police relax - they will hit them. This has been going on for 10yrs now in Laikipia. Same modus operandi.

If anybody think they will defeat pokot bandits; then they need quick history lesson; British tried and failed; Kenyatta; Moi; Kibaki; Uhuru and next gov will try and fail.

The solution has to be something other than shooting them.

Looter is crossing his fingers that the operation flops so he may paint serikal as anti-raia/hasora

[RV Pundit]

You mean Yebei. Possibly. But where is the evidence. He probably gave out some money and told someone  handle the situation.

Now I am talking about taboo - in political perception -you will never hear Kalenjin talk about PEV or madoadoa or sijui what. Someone like Raila can talk reckless - because he is blabbering.

Anyway we are talking pokot raiders...the solution is to listen to Pokot leaders. Prof Lonyangpuo has a lot of wisdom that gov should tap in.
Pokot are like the Taliban. You cannot beat them because it's the entire system that has been weaponized.

But they definitely listen to elders and leaders. Knowing their culture is similar to our culture...rarely will cattle raids happen without leaders especially Laibon sanctions and thorough planning.

So like Afgan - you need to talk nicely to the old wazee of Pokot and find out what they need.

As of now - Matiangi is wasting time shooting cows as they retreat - but arrest or even kill a bandit will be so hard - because they are well trained, very disciplined and ultimate survivors. Those warriors can survive for weeks on honey and wild berries. They are probably laying - watching events unfold - and spying on the soldiers.

If gov was serious - they would deploy intelligence on pokot - especially Laibons. Those I am 100 percent sure are the ultimate planners.  I know intelligence will be hard because like kalenjin - everyone will pretend they didnt see anything or hear anything - even the cows just passed there in that minute. There is just the code of silence. So maybe torture like Mt Elgon will make them sing...but any police raid...they simply leave their homes and head for the caves...hide in forests. Growing in 1980s - even Kipsigs in Narok when GSU raided...everyone simply left their homes..and headed for forest..for maybe a week.

[vooke]

You mean Yebei. Possibly. But where is the evidence. He probably gave out some money and told someone  handle the situation.

Now I am talking about taboo - in political perception -you will never hear Kalenjin talk about PEV or madoadoa or sijui what. Someone like Raila can talk reckless - because he is blabbering.

Anyway we are talking pokot raiders...the solution is to listen to Pokot leaders. Prof Lonyangpuo has a lot of wisdom that gov should tap in.
Pokot are like the Taliban. You cannot beat them because it's the entire system that has been weaponized.

But they definitely listen to elders and leaders. Knowing their culture is similar to our culture...rarely will cattle raids happen without leaders especially Laibon sanctions and thorough planning.

So like Afgan - you need to talk nicely to the old wazee of Pokot and find out what they need.

As of now - Matiangi is wasting time shooting cows as they retreat - but arrest or even kill a bandit will be so hard - because they are well trained, very disciplined and ultimate survivors. Those warriors can survive for weeks on honey and wild berries. They are probably laying - watching events unfold - and spying on the soldiers.

If gov was serious - they would deploy intelligence on pokot - especially Laibons. Those I am 100 percent sure are the ultimate planners.  I know intelligence will be hard because like kalenjin - everyone will pretend they didnt see anything or hear anything - even the cows just passed there in that minute. There is just the code of silence. So maybe torture like Mt Elgon will make them sing...but any police raid...they simply leave their homes and head for the caves...hide in forests. Growing in 1980s - even Kipsigs in Narok when GSU raided...everyone simply left their homes..and headed for forest..for maybe a week.

[RV Pundit]

Remove your blinkers. Ruto maybe murdered one witnesses - Uhuru murdered more than 10 Mungiki leaders - from Wairumu  the second wife of Maina Njenga - to Njunguna and his Luo friend - who were assisting Mungiki.

And I am not talking Mungiki operation by Michuki way back in 2005-2006 - we are talking 2008-2012 when ICC had fingered Uhuru for re-activating Mungiki - giving money to Maina Njenga and company to organize retaliatory attacks.

Gitau - shot in Luthuli.

Maina Njenga wife and two Mungiki leaders murdered in 2010
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/city-news/2000144433/maina-njenga-the-government-killed-my-wife

[RV Pundit]

Tribal blinkers kweli.

Kingara and Oulu were murdered by Uhuru
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/business/article/1144008188/ngo-bosses-shot-dead-amid-mungiki-sect-mayhem

[RV Pundit]

In total many witnesses killed - the last two are in Ruto case.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/raila-reveals-names-10-murdered-icc-witnesses/

[Kadudu]

Nobody has disputed this fact.

Remove your blinkers. Ruto maybe murdered one witnesses - Uhuru murdered more than 10 Mungiki leaders - from Wairumu  the second wife of Maina Njenga - to Njunguna and his Luo friend - who were assisting Mungiki.

And I am not talking Mungiki operation by Michuki way back in 2005-2006 - we are talking 2008-2012 when ICC had fingered Uhuru for re-activating Mungiki - giving money to Maina Njenga and company to organize retaliatory attacks.

Gitau - shot in Luthuli.

Maina Njenga wife and two Mungiki leaders murdered in 2010


Uhuru murdered a lot of people

[RV Pundit]

Pastor Kevoo did...

This is the shockingly ignorant post --At least Uhunye stopped at bribing witnesses.

Nobody has disputed this fact.

[vooke]

In total many witnesses killed - the last two are in Ruto case.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/raila-reveals-names-10-murdered-icc-witnesses/

[RV Pundit]

You clearly have issues; despite support my WSR; I am one who has never denied possible role in yebei murder and corruption; But I have no evidence that Ruto organize and planned PEV. I was in RV during that period. Many people were there.
Violence in RV was unplanned and yes organized along Kalenjin traditional war infrastructure.
Those are facts as far as I know.

As for you; you have rough 10yrs if you're already bitter with WSR; you better pray for Jakom.

None of kenya political class is clean so I dont understand the lame double standard. Eti Uhuru is better - really Nigga

[vooke]

So why was he bribing and killing witnesses?

You clearly have issues; despite support my WSR; I am one who has never denied possible role in yebei murder and corruption; But I have no evidence that Ruto organize and planned PEV. I was in RV during that period. Many people were there.
Violence in RV was unplanned and yes organized along Kalenjin traditional war infrastructure.
Those are facts as far as I know.

As for you; you have rough 10yrs if you're already bitter with WSR; you better pray for Jakom.

None of kenya political class is clean so I dont understand the lame double standard. Eti Uhuru is better - really Nigga

[RV Pundit]

Because they were lying about him. Most of witnesses were PNU charlatans bribed by Moses Kuria/Martha Karua/Nancy and others to frame Ruto - with stories of giants. They were claiming Ruto was issuing guns and grenades...and other stories...that were so incredulous Ruto and Sang did not need to defend themselves.

Now if someone lies about such serious crimes - causes you to go to ICC - and have to defend yourselves...and when trial has about ended...you hear they are coming for another round of fresh liars...what do you do? Wait again for Ocampo charltans to restart the same process?

Go to church and pray? Or like Ruto maybe take action...and also pay them back.

The first batch of witnesses when d-day came - they refused to cooperate with ICC because they could not stand the cross-examination.

So what does Ocampo do - come for the rejected list - and this was the group Yebei was leading with.

Initially rejected group having missed flights to Europe had gone to Ruto....to sell out the 1st group.

When ICC came calling....for rejected group ...they started basically double dealing..the defence and ocampo..obviously driven by monies.

Ruto and Sang as far as I know and everyone in RV knows - has very little to do with planning of any violence - because it was not planned - people erupted - and organized like they have always done since centuries.

So why was he bribing and killing witnesses?

[vooke]

Lying witnesses
Zero corroborating evidence

UhuRuto was going down for their role
Those garbage conspiracy theories of Karura coaching are lubbish

Because they were lying about him. Most of witnesses were PNU charlatans bribed by Moses Kuria/Martha Karua/Nancy and others to frame Ruto - with stories of giants. They were claiming Ruto was issuing guns and grenades...and other stories...that were so incredulous Ruto and Sang did not need to defend themselves.

Now if someone lies about such serious crimes - causes you to go to ICC - and have to defend yourselves...and when trial has about ended...you hear they are coming for another round of fresh liars...what do you do? Wait again for Ocampo charltans to restart the same process?

Go to church and pray? Or like Ruto maybe take action...and also pay them back.

The first batch of witnesses when d-day came - they refused to cooperate with ICC because they could not stand the cross-examination.

So what does Ocampo do - come for the rejected list - and this was the group Yebei was dealing with. Initially rejected group having missed flights to Europe had gone to Ruto....to sell out the 1st group. When ICC came calling....for rejected group...they started basically double dealing..the defence and ocampo.

So why was he bribing and killing witnesses?

[RV Pundit]

I know more about both cases - than you want to know. Let us leave sleeping dogs to lie. I unearthed the whole web.

Lying witnesses
Zero corroborating evidence

UhuRuto was going down for their role
Those garbage conspiracy theories of Karura coaching are lubbish