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Here comes another Jimmy
« on: August 30, 2021, 12:39:04 PM »
This time a Kibaki

Look like dynasty debate has brought them from their cocoon. They want to go out fighting. They can smell a big revolution coming....as Ruto comes with "unwashed" sons of Mau Mau ready to take over business and leadership

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-08-29-jimmy-kibaki-joins-the-new-democrats-as-deputy-party-leader/

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2021, 12:52:48 PM »
Another confunsed brat with too much money.
As of Ruto washing them away, you are dreaming. If Ruto wins you will see him being very comfortable in company of these dynasties as he builds his own dynasty. These dynasties can teach him how to behave at a dinner with the queen. :D :D :D

This time a Kibaki

Look like dynasty debate has brought them from their cocoon. They want to go out fighting. They can smell a big revolution coming....as Ruto comes with "unwashed" sons of Mau Mau ready to take over business and leadership

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-08-29-jimmy-kibaki-joins-the-new-democrats-as-deputy-party-leader/

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2021, 01:17:15 PM »
I think you underrate Ruto - he is Raila without the chaos - he will sweep them out - and take everything including their things - that is why they are scared. If they are willing to give Ruto 80 and keep 20 ni sawa :) :) Ruto as PORK will not negotiate with kinyaragas like Jimmy. Ruto is so ambitious he will want to own everything :)

Anyway I am spoiling for them dynasties - but for real - it will be a revolution. Moses Kurias will become new Kibakis. Ndidi Nyoro will become billionaire. Kenyatta and Mois will keep their wealth - but their crony system will be dismantled...their companies crushed.

Ruto is not coming alone - he is tagging along a huge crowd of young, ambitious and we dont give a damn about old reputation cerrelac babies - they are leading a revolution.

That is why Ndii is really excited - that is why central political class and hustlers are excited - Ruto is promising to dismantle them dynasties - and create new ones.

Ruto has come this far this young because he is nor respect of old reputation - when everyone feared Biwott - Ruto went for him with Gideon Moi - and they kicked him out of kitchen cabinet. When everyone feared Kibaki and his new gov - Ruto stood and got his kalenjin nickame - nyiganet the brave one. When Raila tried to threaten Ruto - he made big mistake. I think Uhuru and his system has seen that Ruto is not guy you can easily intimidate.

Botttom-line a big revolution is coming their way - either Raila or Ruto wins - both will upset the cart - because they both are not interested in negotiating for crumbs - but taking the juiciest piece.



Another confunsed brat with too much money.
As of Ruto washing them away, you are dreaming. If Ruto wins you will see him being very comfortable in company of these dynasties as he builds his own dynasty. These dynasties can teach him how to behave at a dinner with the queen. :D :D :D

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2021, 04:06:47 PM »
Poor David Ndii. He is dancing with the devil hoping the devil will become an angel come August 2022.
He like John Githongo in 2003 will be the first to be shown the door or run to save his ass. You cannot tame the hungry wolves in UDA. They know what they want and no Ndii can stop them with his ideologies. Behind his back they are already laughing at his naivity.

I think you underrate Ruto - he is Raila without the chaos - he will sweep them out - and take everything including their things - that is why they are scared. If they are willing to give Ruto 80 and keep 20 ni sawa :) :) Ruto as PORK will not negotiate with kinyaragas like Jimmy. Ruto is so ambitious he will want to own everything :)

Anyway I am spoiling for them dynasties - but for real - it will be a revolution. Moses Kurias will become new Kibakis. Ndidi Nyoro will become billionaire. Kenyatta and Mois will keep their wealth - but their crony system will be dismantled...their companies crushed.

Ruto is not coming alone - he is tagging along a huge crowd of young, ambitious and we dont give a damn about old reputation cerrelac babies - they are leading a revolution.

That is why Ndii is really excited - that is why central political class and hustlers are excited - Ruto is promising to dismantle them dynasties - and create new ones.

Ruto has come this far this young because he is nor respect of old reputation - when everyone feared Biwott - Ruto went for him with Gideon Moi - and they kicked him out of kitchen cabinet. When everyone feared Kibaki and his new gov - Ruto stood and got his kalenjin nickame - nyiganet the brave one. When Raila tried to threaten Ruto - he made big mistake. I think Uhuru and his system has seen that Ruto is not guy you can easily intimidate.

Botttom-line a big revolution is coming their way - either Raila or Ruto wins - both will upset the cart - because they both are not interested in negotiating for crumbs - but taking the juiciest piece.


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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2021, 04:12:25 PM »
Ndii want to destroy kenyatta-Moi empire. Ruto provide him the opportunity to do that. He can decide to join the new capitalist - as the old one are discarded - or go home after his assignment is done.
Poor David Ndii. He is dancing with the devil hoping the devil will become an angel come August 2022.
He like John Githongo in 2003 will be the first to be shown the door or run to save his ass. You cannot tame the hungry wolves in UDA. They know what they want and no Ndii can stop them with his ideologies. Behind his back they are already laughing at his naivity.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2021, 04:46:27 PM »

Can he speak fluent Swahili ?
These St Marys boys are coming out of woodwork . Having seen its possible through Uhuru and his hubbies they think then can also make it.

This time a Kibaki

Look like dynasty debate has brought them from their cocoon. They want to go out fighting. They can smell a big revolution coming....as Ruto comes with "unwashed" sons of Mau Mau ready to take over business and leadership

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-08-29-jimmy-kibaki-joins-the-new-democrats-as-deputy-party-leader/

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2021, 05:12:43 PM »
Now you are overrating Ndii. Kenyatta family bought Ruto in 2013 and in case he becomes president the will make a good deal with him. Ndii is just a noise maker. Money always gets its end.
Ruto wants and needs loads of cash and the ones who have it are the Kenyattas.

Ndii want to destroy kenyatta-Moi empire. Ruto provide him the opportunity to do that. He can decide to join the new capitalist - as the old one are discarded - or go home after his assignment is done.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2021, 05:19:16 PM »
They are scared...they know Ruto has incited hustlers in Mt kenya...and is bringing new elite. They know dynasty thing targets them.

Can he speak fluent Swahili ?
These St Marys boys are coming out of woodwork . Having seen its possible through Uhuru and his hubbies they think then can also make it.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2021, 05:20:59 PM »
It's more about the cashflow. Nobody really keep money in bank. They make it flow. It easy therefore to kill them by killing their cashflow. Then they remain with land. Their companies once they start making losses will eat their capital.
Now you are overrating Ndii. Kenyatta family bought Ruto in 2013 and in case he becomes president the will make a good deal with him. Ndii is just a noise maker. Money always gets its end.
Ruto wants and needs loads of cash and the ones who have it are the Kenyattas.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2021, 05:49:49 PM »
Ruto in Mt Kenya is just a creation of the Mt Kenya political elite. They know he cannot deliver what he is preaching, but they are ready just like 2013 to do everything to remain politically relevant. The minute Ruto touches part of their economy, they will part ways.
Who are these "new" elites? Waititu, Ichungwa, Kihika etc? Those are part of the old elite though young.

They are scared...they know Ruto has incited hustlers in Mt kenya...and is bringing new elite. They know dynasty thing targets them.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2021, 05:56:26 PM »
Just wait for the next election - you will see new faces in entire Mt kenya - as hustlers will elect faceless people. The kihikas will be far and in between. Most Mps and MCAs will be unknown faces.

When I was in Nairobi even middle class kikuyus were starting to get scared. The hustlers are mostly young poor kikuyus and they are in Ruto for win-win - for them Ruto represent a emancipation first from their moneyed but disconnected upper class.

There is nothing middle and upper class hate that when they can no longer impress the lower class with their English theories and all that :) - They just brand you a dynasty - and say Ruto! Ruto! Hasola!

I saw that in Nairobi and just chuckled :)  Normally the middle class and upper class would be the intellegnsia guiding the poor on politics ; but huko central; wako tu HASOLA! WIRROBARRO! - and they brand anybody against Ruto to be a dynasty.

They see Ruto as someone who at least talk about them - the forgotten majority - hustling - without jobs or good education - to speak that English - or good business - Ruto delivering on his lofty promise will be an add on - they already won - as their issues are being acknowledged.
Ruto in Mt Kenya is just a creation of the Mt Kenya political elite. They know he cannot deliver what he is preaching, but they are ready just like 2013 to do everything to remain politically relevant. The minute Ruto touches part of their economy, they will part ways.
Who are these "new" elites? Waititu, Ichungwa, Kihika etc? Those are part of the old elite though young.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2021, 06:18:32 PM »

In Mt Kenya Majority of Mps usually dont make it back. I provided some data last year on the same . When Robina was singing that Mps support is  a reflection of what is happening on ground.

Just wait for the next election - you will see new faces in entire Mt kenya - as hustlers will elect faceless people. The kihikas will be far and in between. Most Mps and MCAs will be unknown faces.

When I was in Nairobi even middle class kikuyus were starting to get scared. The hustlers are mostly young poor kikuyus and they are in Ruto for win-win - for them Ruto represent a emancipation first from their moneyed but disconnected upper class.

There is nothing middle and upper class hate that when they can no longer impress the lower class with their English theories and all that :) - They just brand you a dynasty - and say Ruto! Ruto! Hasola!

I saw that in Nairobi and just chuckled :)  Normally the middle class and upper class would be the intellegnsia guiding the poor on politics ; but huko central; wako tu HASOLA! WIRROBARRO! - and they brand anybody against Ruto to be a dynasty.

They see Ruto as someone who at least talk about them - the forgotten majority - hustling - without jobs or good education - to speak that English - or good business - Ruto delivering on his lofty promise will be an add on - they already won - as their issues are being acknowledged.
Ruto in Mt Kenya is just a creation of the Mt Kenya political elite. They know he cannot deliver what he is preaching, but they are ready just like 2013 to do everything to remain politically relevant. The minute Ruto touches part of their economy, they will part ways.
Who are these "new" elites? Waititu, Ichungwa, Kihika etc? Those are part of the old elite though young.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2021, 06:27:29 PM »
Nationally since 1960s - 70 to 80 never make it in kenya - competition is brutal - and kenya have high expectation of mps.
But generally Mps are reflection on the ground - towards election time - that is when everyone know the boss is the ground.

As for this election - the usual 70 wont make - but character of new ones in many places - may be unknown first timers - some straight from poverty


In Mt Kenya Majority of Mps usually dont make it back. I provided some data last year on the same . When Robina was singing that Mps support is  a reflection of what is happening on ground.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2021, 06:42:40 PM »

Money will still be a factor especially during Nominations. Youths will be bribed as it has always been.



Nationally since 1960s - 70 to 80 never make it in kenya - competition is brutal - and kenya have high expectation of mps.
But generally Mps are reflection on the ground - towards election time - that is when everyone know the boss is the ground.

As for this election - the usual 70 wont make - but character of new ones in many places - may be unknown first timers - some straight from poverty


In Mt Kenya Majority of Mps usually dont make it back. I provided some data last year on the same . When Robina was singing that Mps support is  a reflection of what is happening on ground.

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Re: Here comes another Jimmy
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2021, 07:00:21 PM »
Yes nomination will give us most of the Mps - and if parties do good job in nomination - and dont sell certificate - we will get hasolas -
Money will still be a factor especially during Nominations. Youths will be bribed as it has always been.