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Here gone to Turkey - the re-emerging power - that controlled both Christian and Muslim world hundreds of years

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/kalonzo-in-turkey-denies-link-ruto-man-harun-aydin-3510256

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 07:29:36 PM »
Very interesting you call it Ottoman Empire (you're right). The Eastern Question remains unanswered. Google it.

Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 12:12:40 AM »
You must be joking. Turkey is dead broke. Inflation rate at the moment over 16%. The Turkish lira in 2015 was trading at 3:1 to the US$.Today it is at 8.2:1 US$. Turkey's is so dependent on the EU and Russian markets. The Ottoman Empire is dead and it like trying to revive the Zulu Nation of Shaka.

Here gone to Turkey - the re-emerging power - that controlled both Christian and Muslim world hundreds of years

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/kalonzo-in-turkey-denies-link-ruto-man-harun-aydin-3510256

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 12:16:01 AM »
Geopolitically - especially in Africa - they are kicking arse - just like China. I am not sure where they are getting money - but definitely they are starting to assert themselves outside turkey.
You must be joking. Turkey is dead broke. Inflation rate at the moment over 16%. The Turkish lira in 2015 was trading at 3:1 to the US$.Today it is at 8.2:1 US$. Turkey's is so dependent on the EU and Russian markets. The Ottoman Empire is dead and it like trying to revive the Zulu Nation of Shaka.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 12:17:43 AM »
 :) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.
 
You must be joking. Turkey is dead broke. Inflation rate at the moment over 16%. The Turkish lira in 2015 was trading at 3:1 to the US$.Today it is at 8.2:1 US$. Turkey's is so dependent on the EU and Russian markets. The Ottoman Empire is dead and it like trying to revive the Zulu Nation of Shaka.

Here gone to Turkey - the re-emerging power - that controlled both Christian and Muslim world hundreds of years

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/kalonzo-in-turkey-denies-link-ruto-man-harun-aydin-3510256
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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 12:27:02 AM »
So why is Kalonzo going to Turkey. Turkey threaten to kick kenya ambassador. They had turkish embassy official sitting on tarmac in Terror Police squad.

Ocalan - was deported - because Turkey wanted him.
Leave Ocalan - recently another Turkish - was also deported - because Turkey wanted him.

But Haydin - by time he was hobnobbing with Ruto - and name it - is not small guy - he was the brother of some PM - Kenya gov also called him a terrorist - just because his name was similar to some turkish-german.

Kenya gov has yet to finish Haydin story - because the guy will sue kenya and claim his investment - was taken away!

This was a screw-up from get go.

Its like the Italian screw up with Arror/Kimwaere - Kenya gov will pay billions to the contractor.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 12:53:15 AM »
Kalonzo is being pampered with "important job" as he slowly acclimatize to Raila VP. That's the big thing I see here - Kalonzo being managed and massaged - safely in the tent.

It only Mdvd being worked on now. His big selling point is he is sellable to Gema than Raila. Once that is settled - Ruto is kaput.

I doubt anyone really cares about Haydin. So he borrowed Equity cash to invest in Entebbe. Big deal: Ocalan was INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE granted asylum by US, EU - and now locked up for life in the same Turkey. An investor worth his salt should be better in navigating local politics.

Finally broke Turkey is nothing like UK or Canada - see no western envoy has lifted a finger. But they milk their geograpgic location hard - very quarrelsome plus backstabbing everyone - EU, Russia, Saudis, US, name it. I doubt Chinese or European or even Russian can be manhandled like that.

So why is Kalonzo going to Turkey. Turkey threaten to kick kenya ambassador. They had turkish embassy official sitting on tarmac in Terror Police squad.

Ocalan - was deported - because Turkey wanted him.
Leave Ocalan - recently another Turkish - was also deported - because Turkey wanted him.

But Haydin - by time he was hobnobbing with Ruto - and name it - is not small guy - he was the brother of some PM - Kenya gov also called him a terrorist - just because his name was similar to some turkish-german.

Kenya gov has yet to finish Haydin story - because the guy will sue kenya and claim his investment - was taken away!

This was a screw-up from get go.

Its like the Italian screw up with Arror/Kimwaere - Kenya gov will pay billions to the contractor.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.
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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2021, 01:06:40 AM »
So typical - everything is been worked to make Raila PORK :)
That naivety deserves a Ph.D. study.
Whatever it is - Kalonzo has gone Turkey to clean up a mess. It not mere coincidence
Btw Equity Loan was to a Ugandan investor - not to the Turkey guy.
Turkey guy is involved in horticulture... :)
Or Money Laundering or Terrorism.

Obviously Low IQ folks in the Uhuru gov were concerned to see Ruto flying with Turkish guy all over.

Brute force intelligence - question the guy - in anti terror squad. the guy refuses to speak in english and speak in turkish :). Turkish embassy say he is good man; now what do we do; we 'deport' him; turkey threaten to close kenya embassy ( they are already fighting with kenya in Somalia thro proxies): kenya dispatches kalonzo as always to clean up.


NIS has probably lost it shine.

Kalonzo is being pampered with "important job" as he slowly acclimatize to Raila VP. That's the big thing I see here - Kalonzo being managed and massaged - safely in the tent.

It only Mdvd being worked on now. His big selling point is he is sellable to Gema than Raila. Once that is settled - Ruto is kaput.

I doubt anyone really cares about Haydin. So he borrowed Equity cash to invest in Entebbe. Big deal: Ocalan was INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE granted asylum by US, EU - and now locked up for life in the same Turkey. An investor worth his salt should be better in navigating local politics.

Finally broke Turkey is nothing like UK or Canada - see no western envoy has lifted a finger. But they milk their geograpgic location hard - very quarrelsome plus backstabbing everyone - EU, Russia, Saudis, US, name it. I doubt Chinese or European or even Russian can be manhandled like that.

So why is Kalonzo going to Turkey. Turkey threaten to kick kenya ambassador. They had turkish embassy official sitting on tarmac in Terror Police squad.

Ocalan - was deported - because Turkey wanted him.
Leave Ocalan - recently another Turkish - was also deported - because Turkey wanted him.

But Haydin - by time he was hobnobbing with Ruto - and name it - is not small guy - he was the brother of some PM - Kenya gov also called him a terrorist - just because his name was similar to some turkish-german.

Kenya gov has yet to finish Haydin story - because the guy will sue kenya and claim his investment - was taken away!

This was a screw-up from get go.

Its like the Italian screw up with Arror/Kimwaere - Kenya gov will pay billions to the contractor.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 08:47:43 AM »
Kalonzo is being pampered with "important job" as he slowly acclimatize to Raila VP. That's the big thing I see here - Kalonzo being managed and massaged - safely in the tent.

It only Mdvd being worked on now. His big selling point is he is sellable to Gema than Raila. Once that is settled - Ruto is kaput.

I doubt anyone really cares about Haydin. So he borrowed Equity cash to invest in Entebbe. Big deal: Ocalan was INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE granted asylum by US, EU - and now locked up for life in the same Turkey. An investor worth his salt should be better in navigating local politics.

Finally broke Turkey is nothing like UK or Canada - see no western envoy has lifted a finger. But they milk their geograpgic location hard - very quarrelsome plus backstabbing everyone - EU, Russia, Saudis, US, name it. I doubt Chinese or European or even Russian can be manhandled like that.

So why is Kalonzo going to Turkey. Turkey threaten to kick kenya ambassador. They had turkish embassy official sitting on tarmac in Terror Police squad.

Ocalan - was deported - because Turkey wanted him.
Leave Ocalan - recently another Turkish - was also deported - because Turkey wanted him.

But Haydin - by time he was hobnobbing with Ruto - and name it - is not small guy - he was the brother of some PM - Kenya gov also called him a terrorist - just because his name was similar to some turkish-german.

Kenya gov has yet to finish Haydin story - because the guy will sue kenya and claim his investment - was taken away!

This was a screw-up from get go.

Its like the Italian screw up with Arror/Kimwaere - Kenya gov will pay billions to the contractor.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.
So it's no longer PK or mt.kenya for VP interesting. And you expect Baba to get even 10% kura from there.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2021, 09:51:59 AM »
Ocalan was not deported but kidnapped in Nairobi by Turkish secret agents and was then smuggled out. The Turkish government of those days bribed Kenyan officials with small money and was allowed to commit international crimes.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2021, 09:56:57 AM »
Definitely Moi was aware. He such a high target - small money and small official could not do it.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ocalan-interpreter-tells-how-trap-was-set-1.155018

Recently also Gulen relative -Selahaddin Gulen- the one Erdogan - accuses of formenting the failed coup - was abducted and handed over to Turkey in Nairobi
https://thearabweekly.com/kenyan-silence-over-turkish-kidnapping-gulen-relative-raises-questions
Ocalan was not deported but kidnapped in Nairobi by Turkish secret agents and was then smuggled out. The Turkish government of those days bribed Kenyan officials with small money and was allowed to commit international crimes.

:) anything in defense of Ruto. Kenya has deported much higher profiles like Ocalan before.

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2021, 10:38:49 AM »
Pundit, this gives the reason why the saga of Aydin is small matter to the Turks. The Turkish government appreciates such banana regimes like the one in Kenya. The Turks owe Kenya more than Kenya owes them. That conman Aydin is just a joke to Erdogan.

Definitely Moi was aware. He such a high target - small money and small official could not do it.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ocalan-interpreter-tells-how-trap-was-set-1.155018

Recently also Gulen relative -Selahaddin Gulen- the one Erdogan - accuses of formenting the failed coup - was abducted and handed over to Turkey in Nairobi
https://thearabweekly.com/kenyan-silence-over-turkish-kidnapping-gulen-relative-raises-questions

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Re: Uhuru send Kalonzo to the Ottoman Empire to apologize for Haydin mess
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2021, 11:56:34 AM »
Yes of course, they would not cut ties, but they must remind Kenya who the boss is Uhuru mistake is not Ayadin but treatment of Turkish embassy.Matiangi should have quitely deported Ayadin