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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2022, 05:54:33 PM »
Was just showcasing the comparison of showing results Province wise vs County wise .

I think you dont you appreciate whatever happened in Naivasha , Why Moi & became angry with Ruto and this he took to his grave .
Reason why you still call yourself RV where Provinces ceased to exist .
This one of the first win win games  Ruto participated in .  Imagine if we were still using Provinces as denominators of regions . As it stands  Raila  would say he is winning the election because he has Coast , Nyanza, Western,  where as Ruto has Rift Valley, Central , and North Eastern .  Nairobi would split 50/50  Eastern would go Kalonzo way with a slight majority like 50K Voters .
Now do that County wise and see the difference .(In Eastern which would go Kalonzo way Ruto would win in 5 Counties as Kalonzo wins in 3 Counties .
 

Agreed - . But get over 2007.
County wise is better. Provinces one is BS.
In 2007 elections Kibaki and Raila drew Province wise . Raila was beaten period District wise.


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« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2022, 06:27:49 PM »
But Kibaki and Uhuru have kept RV & provinces and renamed them regions - when people went to court. I personally dont see the need of provinces or regions. I think counties are perfect becauce they tribal.

So you can see - your beef is with Kibaki - for refusing to let go of Provincial Administration.

What role of Rift Valley Regional Comissioner for example - Mr Natembeya?

If you ask me I like counties - just dont like that name. I think we should them something else.

Was just showcasing the comparison of showing results Province wise vs County wise .

I think you dont you appreciate whatever happened in Naivasha , Why Moi & became angry with Ruto and this he took to his grave .
Reason why you still call yourself RV where Provinces ceased to exist .
This one of the first win win games  Ruto participated in .  Imagine if we were still using Provinces as denominators of regions . As it stands  Raila  would say he is winning the election because he has Coast , Nyanza, Western,  where as Ruto has Rift Valley, Central , and North Eastern .  Nairobi would split 50/50  Eastern would go Kalonzo way with a slight majority like 50K Voters .
Now do that County wise and see the difference .(In Eastern which would go Kalonzo way Ruto would win in 5 Counties as Kalonzo wins in 3 Counties .
 

Agreed - . But get over 2007.
County wise is better. Provinces one is BS.
In 2007 elections Kibaki and Raila drew Province wise . Raila was beaten period District wise.


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« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2022, 07:16:42 PM »
Administratively not politically . In Naivasha PNU Wing with Uhuru armachair tactics were categorical No Provinces - The Marthas wanted Provinces to  reconstituted - Through Ruto and cooperation through KKK  they prevailed . ODM though they would use that to campaign against Ruto in Rift Valley .Only for Raila to do an about turn and support the draft constitution . Ruto went the opposite way and the rest is history .
 

But Kibaki and Uhuru have kept RV & provinces and renamed them regions - when people went to court. I personally dont see the need of provinces or regions. I think counties are perfect becauce they tribal.

So you can see - your beef is with Kibaki - for refusing to let go of Provincial Administration.

What role of Rift Valley Regional Comissioner for example - Mr Natembeya?

If you ask me I like counties - just dont like that name. I think we should them something else.

Was just showcasing the comparison of showing results Province wise vs County wise .

I think you dont you appreciate whatever happened in Naivasha , Why Moi & became angry with Ruto and this he took to his grave .
Reason why you still call yourself RV where Provinces ceased to exist .
This one of the first win win games  Ruto participated in .  Imagine if we were still using Provinces as denominators of regions . As it stands  Raila  would say he is winning the election because he has Coast , Nyanza, Western,  where as Ruto has Rift Valley, Central , and North Eastern .  Nairobi would split 50/50  Eastern would go Kalonzo way with a slight majority like 50K Voters .
Now do that County wise and see the difference .(In Eastern which would go Kalonzo way Ruto would win in 5 Counties as Kalonzo wins in 3 Counties .
 

Agreed - . But get over 2007.
County wise is better. Provinces one is BS.
In 2007 elections Kibaki and Raila drew Province wise . Raila was beaten period District wise.


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2022, 10:01:13 AM »
MOAS Update for Jan 2022

Ruto drops to 47 percent - Small pump in Nandi and West pokot - generally reduction everywhere - GEMA down to 65 percent in most areas. That sees a drop of 1 percent to 47 percent.

Raila hits 40 percent for 1st time - I have increased his votes in Mt Kenya to almost 35 percent (anticipation of Uhuru entry & UDA nomination mess), I have also increased Raila votes in Kilifi, Kakamega, Busia and other areas

Kalonzo remain at 8 percent.

MaDVD+Weta drop to 5 percent...a drop of 1 percent as Raila eat his pie.   

Conclusion:

OKA are the make and break now. Raila is dead without Kalonzo. Ruto need maDVD.

Ruto has dropped 3 percent from winning in 1st round as he generally doing 65 percent in GEMA except in Nakuru, Embu and Tharaka Nithi.

Of course Ruto could as well do more than 65 percent - I have seen opinion poll of 77 percent from Muranga - but Ruto has to factor a possible dent if Uhuru engages and if UDA nomination become chaotic as is very likely.

Every 5 percent increase in GEMA counties of Meru, Kiambu, Muranga, Kirinyanga, Nyeri, Nyandarua and Laikipia - will give him 1 percent pump. At 70 percent - Ruto goes to 48 percent. At 75 he goes to 49 percent.

Conclusion - Ruto badly needs MaDVD+Weta to close the deal.

Raila need Kalonzo to get to Ruto level - and then he will need maDVD+Weta.


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2022, 10:05:57 AM »
MOASS Update - with MaDVD+Weta joining Ruto - Ruto immediately improves to 53 - and unless Kalonzo join Azimio - Ruto has momentum to gain as much as 3-4 percent nationally. Project Raila Azimio is dying.

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2022, 10:18:04 AM »

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2022, 07:22:57 AM »
Realfield(dodgy company) poll - funded by Pro-Raila muslims
Ruto 45 percent - Raila 40 percent -
They got Bomet right - Ruto has 93 percent hapo
Sampled all counties.
No so bad as it's within MOASS margin of errors.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-01-26-ruto-leads-raila-with-45-percent-support-against-40/


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« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2022, 07:58:48 AM »
Realfield county breakdown
Ruto lead in 26 counties


Raila lead - Nairobi, Isiolo and Turkana look rubbish to me



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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2022, 08:12:15 AM »
Realfield poll is suspect. In counties where Ruto is leading, raila's numbers are cranked up by 2-3% percentage points. Yes, Turkana and Nairobi remain outliers. I think your updated MAOSS is close to the truth as possible and conservatively!
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« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2022, 08:42:48 AM »
Yes a few counties look legit - the rest like Isiolo, Nairobi and Turkana fly in face of logic. MOASS is very conservative - because I have factored the real polling day scenario - opinion polls tend not to capture the last minute reality - as people retreat to their tribes and as politics intesify into a siege.

Let see how Luhyaland react to the earthquake - beyond the paid MPS - it's instructive nobody is defecting to ODM. I expect Ruto to get at least 2-3 percent - as high as 4-5 percent uplift from the earthquake = unless Azimio get Kalonzo - then numbers pretty much stay settled like that.

So while Ruto is at 53 percent - there is real possibility he could hit 58 percent or even 60 percent.


Realfield poll is suspect. In counties where Ruto is leading, raila's numbers are cranked up by 2-3% percentage points. Yes, Turkana and Nairobi remain outliers. I think your updated MAOSS is close to the truth as possible and conservatively!

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« Reply #110 on: January 29, 2022, 07:44:03 AM »
Sakaja is good with numbers - his own projection is Ruto wins with 56 percent
https://www.the-star.co.ke/siasa/2022-01-28-in-a-ruto-raila-race-dp-wins-in-first-round-senator-sakaja/

What do you foresee in a possible Ruto-Raila race?

Ruto is definitely going to win, 56 per cent in the first round.

The numbers are here [points at his tablet].

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #111 on: February 03, 2022, 11:01:43 AM »

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« Reply #112 on: February 03, 2022, 06:04:44 PM »
Provincial breakdown - in scenario where Kalonzo (OKA) support Raila and Uhuru delivers at least 30 percent of GEMA.

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« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2022, 03:26:37 PM »
With a exactly six month to go - I will be doing a big update on MOAS.
1) Adding one million newly registered votes.
2) Refining the turn out figures to reflect low enthusiasm
3) OKA - tentatively tagging it with Azimio - with Kalonzo & team expected to carry 75 percent of Ukambani - down from 80 percent in 2017 - and almost 90 percent in 2013 - Kalonzo will at best hammorrage 10 percent more - though this time round opinion polls suggest folks are tired of kitendawili - so if he takes a bad deal - Ruto can even get 35-40 percent of Ukambani - especially if they elevate Muthama to a principal.
4) Changes expected - downgrading Ruto in NEP, Isiolo, Marsabit & part of Coast, upgrading Ruto in Western and minor changes everywhere.
5)  Uhuru has began to directly support Raila but it's too early to determine the direction - generally maintaining him at 35 percent of Central Kenya votes (5 counties+Meru) and 20 percent elsewhere (diaspora of nakuru, laikipia, embu & tharaka).
6) Gachagua is almost guaranteed to be picked as DPORK - I see Nyeri becoming another Ruto stronghold.Nyeri already felt some coldness towards Uhuru the drunkard for dropping the ball in kibaki economic turn around story. Uhuru will soon be restricted to Kiambu-muranga-and huge maybe kirinyanga (if martha plays).
7) Who will Raila pick as DPORK? Kalonzo? Karua? or PK?
8) Moses Kuria arrival on 18th Feb could deal a lethal blow to Uhuru if he has signed to Ruto - combination of Gachagua-Kuria-Alice-plus ever angry Kikuyu diaspora will send Uhuru back to statehouse faster than he came. I doubt Ruto could fly for two days to Dubai just for it's sake. He must have gone there to nail a deal.

 

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« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2022, 08:23:49 PM »
Update - New registration (1m new voters) has no impact.


With big assumption that Kalonzo will back Raila (still think Kaloi is waiting to blackmail Uhuru & Raila as the deadline for coalition nears so he get backed instead of Raila- kalonzo has waited for this opportunity - and will not cash it out at prize of mandazi)

The Maths remain unchanged - both candidates add 400k votes - assuming roughly 20 percent (200K) who just registered wont vote - gap remain at 1.2 million votes.

   Percentage   Total votes
William Ruto   53   8,988,364
Raila Odinga   46   7,824,786 - remove Kaloi - Raila goes back to 38 percent
Others   1   169,833
Turn out   77   
GAP      1,163,578

Next is to tinker to reflect the realities of Feb 2020

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« Reply #115 on: February 09, 2022, 06:33:43 AM »
With exactly six months to go; Look like we have a replica of 2017 presidential elections; Assuming Raila get backing of OKA (Kalonzo) and Uhuru works really hard to deliver 30 percent of GEMA; Ruto pretty much makes up for the losses by gaining in Western and improving generally in nearly all counties except in Gusii - where he drops.

I have run all sort of scenarios - figures pretty much are settled btw 52-54 percent for Ruto - and 44-46 percent for Azimio+Oka.

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« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2022, 06:54:45 AM »
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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2022, 07:32:57 AM »
MOASS 2022 Feb 9th : Exactly six months to election date

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« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2022, 07:48:17 AM »

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« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2022, 08:16:09 AM »
Your Western tabulation is laughable. I hope this video brings you to some reality. All yeah members here - watch!
This is not even Bungoma, it is deep Vihiga territory (obviously no longer ANC). Your god & you living in denial. Wasting his breath.... already set up for embarrassment 6 months away!

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MOASS 2022 Feb 9th : Exactly six months to election date