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Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« on: August 10, 2021, 04:00:16 PM »
I guess they are cooking a gov of national unity or BBI 5.0 through parliament


President Uhuru Kenyatta meets political party leaders in Mombasa
His Excellency President Uhuru Kenyatta on Tuesday held a consultative meeting with a cross-section of political party leaders to discuss several subjects touching on the State of the Kenyan Nation.
Political party leaders Raila Odinga (ODM), Musalia Mudavadi (ANC), Kalonzo Musyoka (Wiper), Moses Wetangula (Ford Kenya), and Gideon Moi (KANU) attended the meeting at State House, Mombasa. Also present was Kakamega Governor and ODM Deputy Party Leader Wycliffe Oparanya.
Among the subjects discussed by the leaders were, Covid-19's impact on the country and how to revamp the economy; and the importance of maintaining peace, unity and national cohesion.
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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2021, 04:54:34 PM »
They are anticipating BBI victory in few days by CoA - Aug 20? All drafts are ready - even Ruto few noisemakers with zero power - David Gikaria - are ready to throw small stones on the floor. They will be deflected easily by solid BBI crew from committees, whips, leaders, speakers. Ruto only got NGOs and some nasty judges quickly nipped in the bud.

What I read here: NASA is intact - which is now added Kieleweke to become BBI lineup. It is also clear Oparanya is not joining Ruto. Neither is Wetangula.
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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2021, 05:03:31 PM »
Yaani you still see COA overturning high court ruling. Can we bet some of your dogecoins? For 1000usd - BBI will not recover in any court of Justice.

Now I think the next stage is either to form BBI 5.0 in parliament - to try to pass amendments - and see if they can repeat the 2/3 majority.

Or GNU - I doubt Uhuru will do GNU - it goes contra to his grand looting plans for this final year - so he wont be sharing the pie. I dont see him being keen to bring hungry mouths to the table.

He knows BBI is dying in 20th and is looking for a red-herring to keep NASA crew engaged. Uhuru endorsing Raila -  :) - that is a crazy thought. Gideon Moi definitely -maDVD maybe.

As for Weta and the rest - people are going to eat - until May-June 2021.Weta is waiting for Raila millions and then Uhuru millions. But come May-June people will do their MOAS - and go for the best deal. NASA is too crowded.

They are anticipating BBI victory in few days by CoA - Aug 20? All drafts are ready - even Ruto few noisemakers with zero power - David Gikaria - are ready to throw small stones on the floor. They will be deflected easily by solid BBI crew from committees, whips, leaders, speakers. Ruto only got NGOs and some nasty judges quickly nipped in the bud.

What I read here: NASA is intact - which is now added Kieleweke to become BBI lineup. It is also clear Oparanya is not joining Ruto. Neither is Wetangula.

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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2021, 05:20:05 PM »
Why don't Weta or Oparanya want Ruto millions? Raila only let lose the strings few days ago - Weta whined for years but never left.

The key reason Raila-NASA will not join GoK - is to deny Ruto outsider card. So long as he is DPORK, a few Cheluguis, Karoneis are CS - it a mountain to give lectures about change or hustler manna. Any tv debate and folks are wondering about the stadiums, or digital vs analog. His SGR "vision" brought about the massive debt -- so now what is this bottom-up miracle he is preaching?

Uhuru is neither that greedy nor crafty. His main job now besides winding few projects - is playing fulltime Handshake Campaign Manager. He just hounded Ruto financier back to Turkey. I seen your tears all over.

Yaani you still see COA overturning high court ruling. Can we bet some of your dogecoins? For 1000usd - BBI will not recover in any court of Justice.

Now I think the next stage is either to form BBI 5.0 in parliament - to try to pass amendments - and see if they can repeat the 2/3 majority.

Or GNU - I doubt Uhuru will do GNU - it goes contra to his grand looting plans for this final year - so he wont be sharing the pie. I dont see him being keen to bring hungry mouths to the table.

He knows BBI is dying in 20th and is looking for a red-herring to keep NASA crew engaged. Uhuru endorsing Raila -  :) - that is a crazy thought. Gideon Moi definitely -maDVD maybe.

As for Weta and the rest - people are going to eat - until May-June 2021.Weta is waiting for Raila millions and then Uhuru millions. But come May-June people will do their MOAS - and go for the best deal. NASA is too crowded.
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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2021, 05:26:41 PM »
Ruto is a master tactician; He is not Uhuru who throws money aimlessly or expend on useless strategies; Ruto is throwing money on UDA; lots of money; you can bet anybody who goes to see Ruto; doesn't come home empty handed.

If you think Ruto is broke - and depend on some Turkish - then clearly you don't know Ruto. Ruto was the guy responsible for 90 percent of ODM funding back in 2007.Ruto understudied Moi - he knows just how much money is required to win PORK.its, not millions - it's BILLIONS.

This is not money - just for a campaign - but money to keep things moving on a daily basis for 5yrs - a lot of money - you can bet Ruto spends 10M every day - and like Moi he has a bank vault in his house.

People don't just shout hustler nation - they need money :). No money you become like NASA crew running to Statehouse to beg :) :)

As for Weta - Atwoli is complaining that he asked for 800M to back Raila :) :)

Maybe if it get to bidding war - btw Uhuru and Ruto - otherwise I dont see anybody outbidding Ruto. Not even Gideon Moi.

Raila has no money and is mkono kamu. I just dont see how Uhuru will spend his money on election for 2022 :) - coz he will have to lose like 10B Kshs if he was to go toe to toe with Ruto. Gideon will not spend money on anybody - he is too stingy. He can spend on Raila - but is Raila on sale :) to a MOI

So the likes of Weta and Kingis will collect their one billion from Ruto - and provide the rigging margin - that is Ruto's biggest problem now. Mama Ngina paid Ruto - 3-5B.

Why don't Weta or Oparanya want Ruto millions? Raila only let lose the strings few days ago - Weta whined for years but never left.

The key reason Raila-NASA will not join GoK - is to deny Ruto outsider card. So long as he is DPORK, a few Cheluguis, Karoneis are CS - it a mountain to give lectures about change or hustler manna. Any tv debate and folks are wondering about the stadiums, or digital vs analog. His SGR "vision" brought about the massive debt -- so now what is this bottom-up miracle he is preaching?

Uhuru is neither that greedy nor crafty. His main job now besides winding few projects - is playing fulltime Handshake Campaign Manager. He just hounded Ruto financier back to Turkey. I seen your tears all over.

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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2021, 06:07:41 PM »
 :) It amusing how corruption runs so seamlessly in your world. It is like oil in your engine. Anyway you always peddled Railaphobia here - and my question is if it principally about money why bother with a broke, stingy Raila.

Raila has lots of resources. Gema financiers like SK Macharia or Munga. Thanks to Uhuru. Uhuru seems keen enough to sabotage Ruto that he will throw in a few eggs of his own even against the mother's wishes. But Uhuru biggest contribution has been wielding fierce rungu against Waititus, Gachaguas - which is a very cost-effective balance to Ruto cash. Now Ruto starts flat-footed without any outright advantage, probably with half the money gone.

You see Raila doesn't need to be generous, but brainy.
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Re: Uhuru assembled NASA crew - BBI 5.0? or GNU
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2021, 06:15:59 PM »
I am a dispassionate pundit. I have told you money in Kenya is like AK47 in Ethiopia or Uganda or Rwanda. It is the reality of our politics. Its is something that anyone who enters politics realizes they need to have...if they are truly serious.

You need billions of money - sio hiyo ya Raila still shaking governors for slush funds. You need like 10 choppers. You need a lot of money to become Kenya PORK - only Kibaki got in the first term without spending - but Njenga Karume had spent a fortune in the 90s on him. Mama Ngina spent a fortune in 2002 and 2013.

2ndly you need INTELLIGENCE. I mean you need CIA - you need to know what your political rival or enemy is planning - what they are saying - what they are doing. So you can COUNTER their plans - and stay ahead. You need spies. People who are inside your rival shouting the most - while in fact they are feeding you with your opponent's game plan or even sabotaging them by saying stupid unpopular things.

Then rest is really packaging yourself with good propaganda as the people's savior. Get money to be splashing around - Kenyans just expect that you will offer practical help now long before they elect you. Stay on top of your rival. Understand what people want. Package into nicely woven propaganda.

Politics=war=guns(money)+intelligence. This is as old as any war has been. Kalenjin warrior or cattle rustlers invested enormous time on meticulously intelligence-gathering - until they knew everything - where the enemy slept, what time, where things are kept - until the spies were sure - then Laibon or Orkoiyot would give the plan of attack and day of attack. This is the same with politics or war...intelligence gives you the planning edge.

If you're in Uganda - you need Police to intimidate people and remind them of 20yrs of Bush wars - but in Kenya that surest way to political oblivion Matiangi style is to beat up people. This mistake Uhuru and his folks have made - using Brute Oppressive Force in Kenya - surest way to unpopularity. Yes, the Mumbi ruling has intimidated governors - because they can be easily removed - but rest know it's a weekend of drama - and they get bailed out. In Uganda Museveni can take you to a military court or detain you for 3 months. In Kenya, the police state was dismantled in the 90s. The rungu in Kenya has NOTHING. Murders suspect are bailed out leave alone political cases.

In Kenya, you can persuade someone with money - not batons.

Now why do you think Uhuru people are CLUELESS on GRAND RAILA PLAN

Itumbi intelligence - seem to suggest - everyone trying to stay afloat. Uhuru definitely does his own thing - and doesn't care about post-2022.

I see Uhuru people scrambling for a plan B. Intelligence so far suggests Uhuru is on Gideon Moi plan. Forget the red herrings and gimmicks - INVEST IN INTELLIGENCE - otherwise, you'll be like Raila - you get played to the very end - and you have no chance to counter it - you are dead meat like in 2002 when he realized too late the Moi had other plans.

Moi-Kenyatta's plan is of course stupid but they don't care...if it doesn't work...no problem...they already have enough money either way...this more like a brotherhood..returning the favor to Moi.


:) It amusing how corruption runs so seamlessly in your world. It is like oil in your engine. Anyway you always peddled Railaphobia here - and my question is if it principally about money why bother with a broke, stingy Raila.

Raila has lots of resources. Gema financiers like SK Macharia. Thanks to Uhuru. Uhuru seems keen enough to sabotage Ruto that he will throw in a few eggs of his own even against the mother's wishes. But Uhuru biggest contribution has been wielding fierce rungu against Waititus, Gachaguas - which is a very cost-effective balance to Ruto cash. Now Ruto starts flat-footed without any outright advantage, probably with half he money gone.

You see Raila doesn't need to be generous, but brainy.