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Offline veritas

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Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« on: August 08, 2021, 06:32:47 PM »
Which vaccine are you getting ?

I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.

There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.

What are your thoughts ?

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2021, 07:25:47 PM »
Try ivermectin instead.
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2021, 07:30:22 PM »
None. Women are more likely to get serious adverse reactions to all the vaccines.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/healthcare-workers-report-suffering-full-body-convulsions-after-covid-19-vaccines/
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2021, 06:58:54 PM »
Which vaccine are you getting ?

I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.

There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.

What are your thoughts ?

Take any. This virus keep mutating and at some point it may become resistant to any vaccine. However such will not happen as long as long as most get a vaccine.
Yes you can use whatever Arcadian recommended but be prepared for a new liver, or major organ after a few years.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2021, 10:36:15 PM »
So why take a vaccine if clearly they are not working? Vaccinated people are superspreading the Delta now. How do you know vaccine effects will be any different from Arcadian's?
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 11:49:11 PM »
Yes you can use whatever Arcadian recommended but be prepared for a new liver, or major organ after a few years.

Super fake news!
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2021, 02:21:12 AM »
So why take a vaccine if clearly they are not working? Vaccinated people are superspreading the Delta now. How do you know vaccine effects will be any different from Arcadian's?
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2021, 09:32:38 AM »
I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.

Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2021, 11:36:31 AM »
I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.

Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.

Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2021, 12:57:54 PM »
Bring up your own statistics.
Btw, even your local hero Donald Trump got himself vaccinated while still in WH. He never trumpeted this to his worshipers.
Next time you get a headache, kindly run to the bush to get some recipie for the headache and not run to the pharmacy and reward big pharma. Are the deaths of people I know in the last few months also manipulated statistics?

Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2021, 01:42:17 PM »
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2021, 06:05:29 AM »
Bring up your own statistics.
Btw, even your local hero Donald Trump got himself vaccinated while still in WH. He never trumpeted this to his worshipers.
Next time you get a headache, kindly run to the bush to get some recipie for the headache and not run to the pharmacy and reward big pharma. Are the deaths of people I know in the last few months also manipulated statistics?

Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.

Just take the any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing.  In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There  appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2021, 06:35:28 AM »
Just take any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing.  In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There  appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.

That is a cavalier attitude, why not pause and look into the so called vaccine. Few things to ponder:

- COVID-19 injections are not necessarily vaccines, as we understand them, but rather an mRNA technology (on which there is no safety data).

- Covid vaccines contain lipid nanoparticles that have been shown to cause damage to reproductive systems, the brain, liver, kidney, and heart.

- The whole thing is experimental and untested hence the use of EUA's or Emergency Use Authorization powers which were passed so that they could get this injection into the public without FDA approval.


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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2021, 07:47:52 AM »
I got two astrazeneca shots already. Had tried to source for Pfizer but couldn't get it anywhere in Kenya. There are news that Astra zeneca might have a longer protection than pfizer. But wow the side effects hits me like a tonne of bricks.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2021, 05:50:28 PM »
Thought veri was previously a doctor... What's your view regarding waivers for vaccine injury?

The dinosaur in the room though is mandated medications where gov bureaucrats knock your door anytime with medicines without people subscription.

Last few decades were spent knocking down national sovereignty, establishing military bases all over, and getting into family and people heads through TV/social media.

Then they now come and knock down individual sovereignty with pandemics... someone called it going for last inch connectivity, more like our last mile KPLC meme

Looks like slippery slope by all means.

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2021, 06:09:32 PM »
Which vaccine are you getting ?

I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.

There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.

What are your thoughts ?

I did Pfizer.  The name sounds cooler :D.  I would have done AstraZeneca(sounds even cooler) but it is not so prevalent in neck of the woods.
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2021, 06:11:32 PM »
Thought veri was previously a doctor... What's your view regarding waivers for vaccine injury?

The dinosaur in the room though is mandated medications where gov bureaucrats knock your door anytime with medicines without people subscription.

Last few decades were spent knocking down national sovereignty, establishing military bases all over, and getting into family and people heads through TV/social media.

Then they now come and knock down individual sovereignty with pandemics... someone called it going for last inch connectivity, more like our last mile KPLC meme

Looks like slippery slope by all means.



You are still watching Fox, OAN and other right wing media in 2021 *SMDH*
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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2021, 06:57:04 PM »
kenya gov forces civil servant to get a jab; that sounds like illegal.Personally I wont take it because I already got infected and recovered.

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2021, 08:35:34 PM »
Just take any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing.  In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There  appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.

That is a cavalier attitude, why not pause and look into the so called vaccine. Few things to ponder:

- COVID-19 injections are not necessarily vaccines, as we understand them, but rather an mRNA technology (on which there is no safety data).

- Covid vaccines contain lipid nanoparticles that have been shown to cause damage to reproductive systems, the brain, liver, kidney, and heart.

- The whole thing is experimental and untested hence the use of EUA's or Emergency Use Authorization powers which were passed so that they could get this injection into the public without FDA approval.




From my experience MRNA has been in the works for the last 20 or so yrs.
If 5 out of 10k people die after vaccination its considered acceptable and that is true of any medication.
NOTE : Am giving you facts not Trump facts

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Re: Pfizer or AstraZeneca ?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2021, 08:53:17 PM »
I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.

Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.

It's not the US as a whole though.  There are rational people in America, believe it or not.  But it also has the Republican party(presently an underrated existential threat to the US as we know it - in more ways than just anti-vax posturing).
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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