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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2021, 01:05:40 AM »

Always the excuse but whatever you write talks differently

I am a political commentator. I play the devil advocate. I am not paid by anybody. I do dispassionate punditry. I analyze all the moves - all warts included.
You are just playing into the Trap Matiangi and co have set. Unlike you Ruto is brilliant to see the minefields.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2021, 01:12:12 AM »
Do I look like I am bothered.

Always the excuse but whatever you write talks differently


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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2021, 02:12:14 AM »
Pundit...I can tell that you are mad 'asshell'. But remember, this move is not just an insult to Kales...it is a class insult. Perhaps Kihika, Irundu, Wamuchomba, Kuria...are mad'er than you. I am mad. How dare they. They have just converted me to a believer in class war. This is class contempt at best. I can hear them calling him hakakamutu...kamundu gaka...in their drunken night late night briefings. This will have unintended intuitive reaction from hustlers, and guess who stirred the hornet's nest? It is the elite-class not the hustle. Matharau is answered with hasira. 

The next few months - Mt kenya elite will throw anything to win back their gema people. For first time ever Mt kenya people have left it's leadership - and hitch camp in Ruto as they are set to clear the board - and bring in new elite.

They will provoke Ruto and Kalenjin - poke fingers on the eyes - and all that - in the hope that Kalenjin will do or say something stupid that would reopen the old wounds - and they will come back as saviour.

But surely after 4yrs they should be aware that a trained warrior is trained warrior :)

Before we went to MTC - we put fire on all our arms and legs - cigarette butts like - yo remove the soft tissue inside a plant -light it and let it burn completely on your skin - causing big circular burn- it would heal as circular tattoos -repeated in many rows on all arms and legs--pretty ugly to look at  for those who went to the extreme- for like a year before you had to shows those tatoos like rows on legs and arms :)  - and then during one month before MTC you're eyes would literally be poked.

For a man should not flinch.Kalenjin culture is based on stoicism. It what makes kalenjin good in tough sport like Marathon where pain level is really tested over a long time.

Tricks and Strategies that worked on Raila - will not work on Ruto.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/how-one-kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners/
"When Manners was 12 years old, he lived for a while in Kalenjin country, where his dad was an anthropologist. And as a boy, Manners noticed his friends had scars on their arms and legs where they'd burned themselves with hot coals.

The Initiation Ceremony

Manners soon learned that they were practicing for an initiation ceremony, a rite of passage that is all about enduring pain."

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2021, 09:21:01 AM »
Kelele mingi for nothing.
So you believe you belong to the poor in Kenya? Do not light fires that you cannot put off.
Of course this is matharau from Uhuru, but where was Ruto when Miguna Miguna was being bundled to Canada despite of the High Court declaring him a Kenyan citizen? What goes round comes round.

Pundit...I can tell that you are mad 'asshell'. But remember, this move is not just an insult to Kales...it is a class insult. Perhaps Kihika, Irundu, Wamuchomba, Kuria...are mad'er than you. I am mad. How dare they. They have just converted me to a believer in class war. This is class contempt at best. I can hear them calling him hakakamutu...kamundu gaka...in their drunken night late night briefings. This will have unintended intuitive reaction from hustlers, and guess who stirred the hornet's nest? It is the elite-class not the hustle. Matharau is answered with hasira. 

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2021, 09:34:58 AM »

He was already isolated. Ruto unilke Uhuru and Raila respects the courts. He has been steadfast in defending the courts from BBI onslaught

Kelele mingi for nothing.
So you believe you belong to the poor in Kenya? Do not light fires that you cannot put off.
Of course this is matharau from Uhuru, but where was Ruto when Miguna Miguna was being bundled to Canada despite of the High Court declaring him a Kenyan citizen? What goes round comes round.

Pundit...I can tell that you are mad 'asshell'. But remember, this move is not just an insult to Kales...it is a class insult. Perhaps Kihika, Irundu, Wamuchomba, Kuria...are mad'er than you. I am mad. How dare they. They have just converted me to a believer in class war. This is class contempt at best. I can hear them calling him hakakamutu...kamundu gaka...in their drunken night late night briefings. This will have unintended intuitive reaction from hustlers, and guess who stirred the hornet's nest? It is the elite-class not the hustle. Matharau is answered with hasira. 

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2021, 10:26:05 AM »
I still remember Ruto laughing when Uhuru said infront of a crowd while scratching his a-s, he will revisit the courts because of Maraga na wakora wake.


He was already isolated. Ruto unilke Uhuru and Raila respects the courts. He has been steadfast in defending the courts from BBI onslaught

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2021, 10:41:59 AM »
The demeaning of DPORK office and certain death of BBI soon can only mean one thing - the next PORK will rule like Moi. DPORK was important office in first term that had real clout. Now which serious politician will want this DPORK?  Its now like deputy governor where Ruto suppose to seek clearance from sijui Matiangi or Kinyua - his juniors.


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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2021, 10:42:41 AM »
https://africanewsnetwork.co.ke/news/rutos-uganda-trips-alongside-a-terrorist-puts-security-agencies-on-high-alert/

Pundit you are saying the same things Gitau Warigi was writing. That Kiambaa people voted UDA in fear to protect their people in Uasin Gishu. People can only vote in fear for so long.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2021, 10:49:19 AM »
River road kind of baseless propaganda - Ruto alongisde a terrorist - how is that even possible. There are many turks with such names.

As for fear - of course - part of the reason Ruto agreed to support Uhuru - was that.

In fact the genesis of Uhuru fallout with his own people is that - he is putting in danger the life and properties of nearly a million of their own people - by restarting kikiyu-kalenjin animosity.

It would have been easy for Ruto to just play debt or jail card but he didn't - he played jujistu moves- he started the hustler revolution.

Thas now ropped in the kikuyu elite who support Uhuru - and has made it almost impossible to recover.

That is biggest problem now - they are going through the 7 stages of accepting reality.

Recently the likes of Kabogo went round thinking they would get some traction - wapi - he was shouted down from Nyeri, Meru and to Embu...and eventually some brave woman told him to go hang himself with his panty :) - that was the end of Kabogo-Munya experiment.

Now I am seeing few Jubilee Reloaded - dead on arrival - nobodies.

BBI ruling this August - and few more months - everyone will abandon the lameduck for Ruto.

https://africanewsnetwork.co.ke/news/rutos-uganda-trips-alongside-a-terrorist-puts-security-agencies-on-high-alert/

Pundit you are saying the same things Gitau Warigi was writing. That Kiambaa people voted UDA in fear to protect their people in Uasin Gishu. People can only vote in fear for so long.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2021, 10:50:32 AM »
The next few months - Mt kenya elite will throw anything to win back their gema people. For first time ever Mt kenya people have left it's leadership - and hitch camp in Ruto as they are set to clear the board - and bring in new elite.

They will provoke Ruto and Kalenjin - poke fingers on the eyes - and all that - in the hope that Kalenjin will do or say something stupid that would reopen the old wounds - and they will come back as saviour.

But surely after 4yrs they should be aware that a trained warrior is trained warrior :)

Before we went to MTC - we put fire on all our arms and legs - cigarette butts like - yo remove the soft tissue inside a plant -light it and let it burn completely on your skin - causing big circular burn- it would heal as circular tattoos -repeated in many rows on all arms and legs--pretty ugly to look at  for those who went to the extreme- for like a year before you had to shows those tatoos like rows on legs and arms :)  - and then during one month before MTC you're eyes would literally be poked.

For a man should not flinch.Kalenjin culture is based on stoicism. It what makes kalenjin good in tough sport like Marathon where pain level is really tested over a long time.

Tricks and Strategies that worked on Raila - will not work on Ruto.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/how-one-kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners/
"When Manners was 12 years old, he lived for a while in Kalenjin country, where his dad was an anthropologist. And as a boy, Manners noticed his friends had scars on their arms and legs where they'd burned themselves with hot coals.

The Initiation Ceremony

Manners soon learned that they were practicing for an initiation ceremony, a rite of passage that is all about enduring pain."

Long winding essay instead of simply saying Kiambaa church. Is this the Hasola gospel he was going to preach with a known terrorist in Ug?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2021, 10:53:43 AM »
Peddling Toilet.com kind of nonsense. How many Haydin exist in the world.

Ruto is just sleepwalking to PORK. He just need to stay alive

The biggest threat - is threat to his life - otherwise politically he just need 60 percent of GEMA to nick it - and if he makes a deal with Kalonzo or Weta like it's being rumoured - then he would only need 50 percent of GEMA - and he is already at 90 percent of GEMA.

Long winding essay instead of simply saying Kiambaa church. Is this the Hasola gospel he was going to preach with a known terrorist in Ug?

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2021, 11:06:15 AM »
If .ke Matiangi made an error concerning this Haydin, it was an error on the side of caution security wise. It is acceptable and the DP should not throw tantrums. Unless you're saying he does not care about security.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2021, 11:08:56 AM »
Those kind of errors and baseless propaganda are the reason gov has lost it's credibility, popularity and why Matiangi - and others are panicked as they stare at job losses, court cases and such.

Lesson no 1 in propaganda - do not lose your credibility.

Ruto can teach you a lot in propaganda.

If .ke Matiangi made an error concerning this Haydin, it was an error on the side of caution security wise. It is acceptable and the DP should not throw tantrums. Unless you're saying he does not care about security.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2021, 11:12:03 AM »
Does the DP care about security? Is he fearing loss of credibility ama only Matiangi cares about credibility? Why is he investing fruit business in Turkey? Are there no Kenyans who can give expert advice on fruit business?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2021, 11:15:18 AM »
Please go back to kindergarten with such baseless propaganda. You think a terrorist will come and meet Ruto - and Ruto will take him to Museveni. Ruto runs his own intelligence - leave hiyo ya Matiangi.

The Harun dude is fruit investor. Hiyo tu. I think Ruto and Museveni been doing lots of farming together :) - Ruto has been buying Museveni cows - and Museveni is trying maybe fruit farming.

Ultimately next year Ruto will crush brookside by opening up the dairy sector :) for Museveni cows.

Does the DP care about security? Is he fearing loss of credibility ama only Matiangi cares about credibility?

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2021, 11:35:33 AM »
Ruto has done very well to stay calm,this is a sector he thrives at,the deep state obviously want him to do miscalculation as they have tried everything before. Ruto will be in this kind of scenarios in future. Kalenjin are also doing well to stay calm apart from pundit,if it were luos you would hear demonstrations and many dead in confrontation with police. Its just 10 months and all this will be over. Ruto around june 22 needs to whip up the country to a breaking point. Iyo tu.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2021, 11:37:02 AM »
Kenya has precedent. So called Armenian mercenaries met and almost married off Kibaki daughter. Terrorist no respecter of persons. If Matiangi stopped plane because of name similar to a terrorist, DP should be happy about it instead of throwing tantrums and bellowing to the gallery. About Brookside, why meander around investing sijui fruit, sijui Turkish investor. Why not just steal? After all, you've been telling us how your friend is such a genius thief.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2021, 11:39:48 AM »
Typical ojinga. That is why you have not got power 60 yrs and counting. Watch Ruto capture power.
Kenya has precedent. So called Armenian mercenaries met and almost married off Kibaki daughter. Terrorist no respecter of persons. If Matiangi stopped plane because of name similar to a terrorist, DP should be happy about it instead of throwing tantrums and bellowing to the gallery. About Brookside, why meander around investing sijui fruit, sijui Turkish investor. Why not just steal? After all, you've been telling us how your friend is such a genius thief.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2021, 11:42:05 AM »
It actually less than one year. In 3 months Uhuru gov will be empty - as mass resignation and defection - will happen in dec. Jan-April will be serious politicking for Mp/govenor/Senate seats. May-August is presidential contest - and that is when one realize how expansive kenya is - and you cannot visit all of it. You need 47 days to visit each county for example.
Ruto has done very well to stay calm,this is a sector he thrives at,the deep state obviously want him to do miscalculation as they have tried everything before. Ruto will be in this kind of scenarios in future. Kalenjin are also doing well to stay calm apart from pundit,if it were luos you would hear demonstrations and many dead in confrontation with police. Its just 10 months and all this will be over. Ruto around june 22 needs to whip up the country to a breaking point. Iyo tu.

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Re: Matiangi stops Ruto from visiting Museveni
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2021, 11:57:29 AM »
Typical ojinga. That is why you have not got power 60 yrs and counting. Watch Ruto capture power.
Kenya has precedent. So called Armenian mercenaries met and almost married off Kibaki daughter. Terrorist no respecter of persons. If Matiangi stopped plane because of name similar to a terrorist, DP should be happy about it instead of throwing tantrums and bellowing to the gallery. About Brookside, why meander around investing sijui fruit, sijui Turkish investor. Why not just steal? After all, you've been telling us how your friend is such a genius thief.

I have not and I'm not looking for power anywhere unlike you who is dangling arrows and bows at Kikuyus. I also don't need to steal anybody's money or plots to live.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244