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Everyone in the rift valley knows Raila didn't sell out Ruto to ICC. However, in politics, anything to vanquish an opponent is allowed in the ring.
Ruto had been uncomorftable that Raila had commanded the Kalenjin people single handedly. Those who recall the periods then, recall that Ruto and many rift politicians followed the masses to ODM and not the other way round.This was a serious point of concern.
Raila must fall. Ruto swore. Ruto made good pact with Raila's greatest nemesis, Moi and Kibaki. 

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Kibaki 'appointed' Raila to oversee protection of the Mau Forest. Raila commissioned his minister of lands James Orengo to find new land for the squatters and resettling them. Michuki was Minister of Security. Against timelines agreed by the community on ground,  he sent Armed police to burn houses and beat squatters. This would be seen as a Raila doing. Lands Minister kept writing to treasury and calling Uhuru and meeting him about funds to resettle the squatters as agreed. Uhuru Kenyatta has Minister of Finance. Treasury declined to follow protocol and didn't provide lands ministry with funds to resettle the squatters. No funds meant Raila was insensitive to the plight of the people. Ruto rallied his well oiled political big mouths to insult Raila in the rift valley about the mau forest. It worked in perfect synchrony. Political masterclass. Raila was given a political TKO by losing the rift valley vote.

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Raila had been as Prime Minister in many environmental assessment conferences with the UN and G8 nations and knew that, in 20years from that time, Kenya was going to face drought. Our local politicians only cared for cheap political thrills. Clearly, their respective convictions and motives were like night and day. And the environment lost.


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To secure the rift valley settlements, Uhuru and Ruto formed Jubilee. As a way to protect the migrants in the rift and foster peace in the rift. That's why Afraha Stadium is the home of Jubilee. Nakuru, for that is where Kalenjins and Kikuyus meet and coexist. Jubilee had development as a secondary policy. Peace and stability in the rift was paramount. Because if evictions happen, it revisits historical land issues that place Kenyatta, Moi and the Mzungu right in the heart of it. And that's how we are slowly turning into a desert. Because we have to be politically correct. Because we are a bunch of cowards.

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Lies , Lies Lies,
First Michuki bt then was Ailing and Kibaki gave him the Ministry of Environment.
Secondly Raila was on record saying Ruto and Uhuru should be jailed in ICC. ODMs Secretary General wrote mails to ICC and UNSC requesting for Uhurus and Rutos case to continue . Actually Kalonzo was the the one campaigning for the cases to be deffered.
 
Why you are bringing up this no one knows. Rift Valley have a Presidential candidate in 2022.

This wont gain tract ss Raila cant woo Rift Valley

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Everyone in the rift valley knows Raila didn't sell out Ruto to ICC. However, in politics, anything to vanquish an opponent is allowed in the ring.
Ruto had been uncomorftable that Raila had commanded the Kalenjin people single handedly. Those who recall the periods then, recall that Ruto and many rift politicians followed the masses to ODM and not the other way round.This was a serious point of concern.
Raila must fall. Ruto swore. Ruto made good pact with Raila's greatest nemesis, Moi and Kibaki. 

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Kibaki 'appointed' Raila to oversee protection of the Mau Forest. Raila commissioned his minister of lands James Orengo to find new land for the squatters and resettling them. Michuki was Minister of Security. Against timelines agreed by the community on ground,  he sent Armed police to burn houses and beat squatters. This would be seen as a Raila doing. Lands Minister kept writing to treasury and calling Uhuru and meeting him about funds to resettle the squatters as agreed. Uhuru Kenyatta has Minister of Finance. Treasury declined to follow protocol and didn't provide lands ministry with funds to resettle the squatters. No funds meant Raila was insensitive to the plight of the people. Ruto rallied his well oiled political big mouths to insult Raila in the rift valley about the mau forest. It worked in perfect synchrony. Political masterclass. Raila was given a political TKO by losing the rift valley vote.

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Raila had been as Prime Minister in many environmental assessment conferences with the UN and G8 nations and knew that, in 20years from that time, Kenya was going to face drought. Our local politicians only cared for cheap political thrills. Clearly, their respective convictions and motives were like night and day. And the environment lost.

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This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches


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Officially ODM Internal wars started Mid 2008 when Raila as PM overturned Rutos plan as Minister of Agriculture in starting a second Bulk Grain Hamdlimg facility at the port of Mombasa. The second one could have been tendered to Mombasa Maiza Millers who were being supported by Balala.
The Grain Bulk handling had a momopoly and were makimg 3 Billion Kshs annualy .It owner was Mohhamed Jaffer .Bothr Jaffer and Mombasa Maize Millers funded ODM in 2007 elections.
When it came to payback time Raila betrayed Ruto , Balala and Mombasa Maize Millers. Ruto and Balala made it political and the rest is history. In few months time KK allaince was formed the it transformed to KKK the G7 and Raila mistakenly thought he would use ICC to stop UhuRuto.
It actually propelled them to Presidency in 2013.


This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches

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The start and end is Sagana - where Raila despite winning the presidency and ODM supporters pinning kibaki gov on the wall - Raila had agreed to the most lopsided deal that restricted ODM to development ministries in Upper hill - and none of key ministries in Harambee avenue. The worst Raila had nothing for Ruto except for Agri ministry which Kirwa held under Kibaki. This for Ruto who had been greatest contributor to ODM - in financing, campaigns,strategy, name it - Ruto had been the engine of ODM together with Raila.

The deal was so lopsided kibaki did not fire or reshuffle any of his early appointed ministers - he simply split development ministries and handed them to ODM - creating a cabinet (Kabiniet) of neary 100 ministers and ass ministers. NARA became a big joke.

That is genesis. Ruto started talking to Uhuru as soon as Sagana ended.

Raila would have become PORK in 2013 if he had secured VP or DPM for Ruto - and had got half the ministries in Harambee avenue - finance, internal, foreign affairs, etc

Uhuru would have amounted to nothing without Ruto backing


Officially ODM Internal wars started Mid 2008 when Raila as PM overturned Rutos plan as Minister of Agriculture in starting a second Bulk Grain Hamdlimg facility at the port of Mombasa. The second one could have been tendered to Mombasa Maiza Millers who were being supported by Balala.
The Grain Bulk handling had a momopoly and were makimg 3 Billion Kshs annualy .It owner was Mohhamed Jaffer .Bothr Jaffer and Mombasa Maize Millers funded ODM in 2007 elections.
When it came to payback time Raila betrayed Ruto , Balala and Mombasa Maize Millers. Ruto and Balala made it political and the rest is history. In few months time KK allaince was formed the it transformed to KKK the G7 and Raila mistakenly thought he would use ICC to stop UhuRuto.
It actually propelled them to Presidency in 2013.


This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches

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Rv Im not disputting the genesis. What Im stating is a fact , When Ruto and his allies decided to make it political


https://www.africa-confidential.com/article/id/2980/A-mutual-security-pact

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When accused of blocking the licensing of a second grain-handling plant at Mombasa port to speed up maize imports, Odinga responded that, according to experts, the existing plant was working at less than half of its capacity. Members of parliament from Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka's ODM-Kenya had claimed that his decision had been influenced by his friendship with the owner of Grain Bulk Handlers, Mohamed Jaffer. Odinga's personal assistant, Major (retired) Idris Mohammed, was linked to the maize scam; he was suspended and an internal investigation ordered.

The start and end is Sagana - where Raila despite winning the presidency and ODM supporters pinning kibaki gov on the wall - Raila had agreed to the most lopsided deal that restricted ODM to development ministries in Upper hill - and none of key ministries in Harambee avenue. The worst Raila had nothing for Ruto except for Agri ministry which Kirwa held under Kibaki. This for Ruto who had been greatest contributor to ODM - in financing, campaigns,strategy, name it - Ruto had been the engine of ODM together with Raila.

The deal was so lopsided kibaki did not fire or reshuffle any of his early appointed ministers - he simply split development ministries and handed them to ODM - creating a cabinet (Kabiniet) of neary 100 ministers and ass ministers. NARA became a big joke.

That is genesis. Ruto started talking to Uhuru as soon as Sagana ended.

Raila would have become PORK in 2013 if he had secured VP or DPM for Ruto - and had got half the ministries in Harambee avenue - finance, internal, foreign affairs, etc

Uhuru would have amounted to nothing without Ruto backing


Officially ODM Internal wars started Mid 2008 when Raila as PM overturned Rutos plan as Minister of Agriculture in starting a second Bulk Grain Hamdlimg facility at the port of Mombasa. The second one could have been tendered to Mombasa Maiza Millers who were being supported by Balala.
The Grain Bulk handling had a momopoly and were makimg 3 Billion Kshs annualy .It owner was Mohhamed Jaffer .Bothr Jaffer and Mombasa Maize Millers funded ODM in 2007 elections.
When it came to payback time Raila betrayed Ruto , Balala and Mombasa Maize Millers. Ruto and Balala made it political and the rest is history. In few months time KK allaince was formed the it transformed to KKK the G7 and Raila mistakenly thought he would use ICC to stop UhuRuto.
It actually propelled them to Presidency in 2013.


This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches

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You're talking 2009 - this 2008. The Sagana deal happened in Feb and by April - Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

Rv Im not disputting the genesis. What Im stating is a fact , When Ruto and his allies decided to make it political


https://www.africa-confidential.com/article/id/2980/A-mutual-security-pact

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When accused of blocking the licensing of a second grain-handling plant at Mombasa port to speed up maize imports, Odinga responded that, according to experts, the existing plant was working at less than half of its capacity. Members of parliament from Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka's ODM-Kenya had claimed that his decision had been influenced by his friendship with the owner of Grain Bulk Handlers, Mohamed Jaffer. Odinga's personal assistant, Major (retired) Idris Mohammed, was linked to the maize scam; he was suspended and an internal investigation ordered.

The start and end is Sagana - where Raila despite winning the presidency and ODM supporters pinning kibaki gov on the wall - Raila had agreed to the most lopsided deal that restricted ODM to development ministries in Upper hill - and none of key ministries in Harambee avenue. The worst Raila had nothing for Ruto except for Agri ministry which Kirwa held under Kibaki. This for Ruto who had been greatest contributor to ODM - in financing, campaigns,strategy, name it - Ruto had been the engine of ODM together with Raila.

The deal was so lopsided kibaki did not fire or reshuffle any of his early appointed ministers - he simply split development ministries and handed them to ODM - creating a cabinet (Kabiniet) of neary 100 ministers and ass ministers. NARA became a big joke.

That is genesis. Ruto started talking to Uhuru as soon as Sagana ended.

Raila would have become PORK in 2013 if he had secured VP or DPM for Ruto - and had got half the ministries in Harambee avenue - finance, internal, foreign affairs, etc

Uhuru would have amounted to nothing without Ruto backing


Officially ODM Internal wars started Mid 2008 when Raila as PM overturned Rutos plan as Minister of Agriculture in starting a second Bulk Grain Hamdlimg facility at the port of Mombasa. The second one could have been tendered to Mombasa Maiza Millers who were being supported by Balala.
The Grain Bulk handling had a momopoly and were makimg 3 Billion Kshs annualy .It owner was Mohhamed Jaffer .Bothr Jaffer and Mombasa Maize Millers funded ODM in 2007 elections.
When it came to payback time Raila betrayed Ruto , Balala and Mombasa Maize Millers. Ruto and Balala made it political and the rest is history. In few months time KK allaince was formed the it transformed to KKK the G7 and Raila mistakenly thought he would use ICC to stop UhuRuto.
It actually propelled them to Presidency in 2013.


This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches

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Im talking of Mid 2008 .You seem to speculate alot. Rutos falling out with Raila was more of its our turn to eat which later culminated to ODM political wars.
Ruto, Balala and the then Minister of Transport Makwere had teamed up to reward Mombasa Maize Millers Jaffers 3 Billion profit share. When Raila intervened and revoked they told him he will pay politically which he did .

What do you know about the second grain hamdling facility ?


You're talking 2009 - this 2008. The Sagana deal happened in Feb and by April - Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

Rv Im not disputting the genesis. What Im stating is a fact , When Ruto and his allies decided to make it political


https://www.africa-confidential.com/article/id/2980/A-mutual-security-pact

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When accused of blocking the licensing of a second grain-handling plant at Mombasa port to speed up maize imports, Odinga responded that, according to experts, the existing plant was working at less than half of its capacity. Members of parliament from Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka's ODM-Kenya had claimed that his decision had been influenced by his friendship with the owner of Grain Bulk Handlers, Mohamed Jaffer. Odinga's personal assistant, Major (retired) Idris Mohammed, was linked to the maize scam; he was suspended and an internal investigation ordered.

The start and end is Sagana - where Raila despite winning the presidency and ODM supporters pinning kibaki gov on the wall - Raila had agreed to the most lopsided deal that restricted ODM to development ministries in Upper hill - and none of key ministries in Harambee avenue. The worst Raila had nothing for Ruto except for Agri ministry which Kirwa held under Kibaki. This for Ruto who had been greatest contributor to ODM - in financing, campaigns,strategy, name it - Ruto had been the engine of ODM together with Raila.

The deal was so lopsided kibaki did not fire or reshuffle any of his early appointed ministers - he simply split development ministries and handed them to ODM - creating a cabinet (Kabiniet) of neary 100 ministers and ass ministers. NARA became a big joke.

That is genesis. Ruto started talking to Uhuru as soon as Sagana ended.

Raila would have become PORK in 2013 if he had secured VP or DPM for Ruto - and had got half the ministries in Harambee avenue - finance, internal, foreign affairs, etc

Uhuru would have amounted to nothing without Ruto backing


Officially ODM Internal wars started Mid 2008 when Raila as PM overturned Rutos plan as Minister of Agriculture in starting a second Bulk Grain Hamdlimg facility at the port of Mombasa. The second one could have been tendered to Mombasa Maiza Millers who were being supported by Balala.
The Grain Bulk handling had a momopoly and were makimg 3 Billion Kshs annualy .It owner was Mohhamed Jaffer .Bothr Jaffer and Mombasa Maize Millers funded ODM in 2007 elections.
When it came to payback time Raila betrayed Ruto , Balala and Mombasa Maize Millers. Ruto and Balala made it political and the rest is history. In few months time KK allaince was formed the it transformed to KKK the G7 and Raila mistakenly thought he would use ICC to stop UhuRuto.
It actually propelled them to Presidency in 2013.


This nonsense. Ruto and Raila crossed their paths in Sagana.

Ruto does not hate Raila - Ruto thinks Raila is an IDIOT.

What happened in Sagana -
1) Raila came back with development ministries - while Ruto had given him minimum ministries ODM had to get
2) Ruto did not get  at least DPM or VP - Ruto had told Raila to insist on two VPs - and two DPMs.

Raila had failed the test, and Ruto had come to realize he was a joker, who could not get power going forward, and Ruto being very ambitious had no business with such a fool.

From that day in Sagana - when Raila decided to do a deal with Kibaki - without listening to Ruto - it was OVER FOR THEM.

I remember saying it here. Raila had been given a military chopper to Sagana only to emerge with most stupid deal ever...despite winning presidency...and that was just final breakpoint for Ruto had then studied Raila in ODM - and knew he was a joker per excellence

The next really was Ruto to look for excuse to get out of ODM.  Raila and Ruto had fallen out.

And I dont think Ruto will work with an idiot like Raila ever - unless he was using him like Uhuru is riding the donkey.

Ruto does not hate Raila - he has contempt for Raila - for Raila doesnt understand power and politics - beyond rehearsed speeches

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I know all that - Ruto will not fallout with Raila because of one deal - like Mohammed Jaffers GHL - Ruto makes deals almost every day. Or Wanjigi crying over SGR - Ruto is a wheeler dealer per excellence.

The fallout happened in SAGANA - and Ruto from then - was done with Raila. Ruto then started talking with Uhuru. This was way before Waki commission, Mau, Maize scandals, Mumias, name kilimo house deals, ICC.


Im talking of Mid 2008 .You seem to speculate alot. Rutos falling out with Raila was more of its our turn to eat which later culminated to ODM political wars.
Ruto, Balala and the then Minister of Transport Makwere had teamed up to reward Mombasa Maize Millers Jaffers 3 Billion profit share. When Raila intervened and revoked they told him he will pay politically which he did .

What do you know about the second grain hamdling facility ?

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Read Mkapa book to understand the real betrayal Ruto felt Raila had done in Sagana.

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Remember Ruto tough negotiation had really pushed Kibaki - then idiot Raila undid everything - and forgot about the kalenjin warriors in jail - after he got helicopter ride and outriders.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2008/0808/p25s04-woaf.html

"My team is alarmed at some serious inaccurate statements made by Your Excellency at the briefing of parliamentarians today. Namely you stated that 'the dialogue team had agreed to have a transitional government for two years after which we shall hold Presidential elections' which position has not been discussed or agreed upon," Karua's letter read.

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You are talking of politics , Im talking of business and how it was turned out to be political. RV why did Uhuru and Ruto " fall out " ?


https://kenyapolitical.blogspot.com/2009/02/grain-bulk-handling-saga.html?m=1




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Grain Bulk Handling Saga

Prime Minister Raila Odinga and Agriculture minister William Ruto have sharply differed over whether or not the Grain Bulk Handlers Limited should continue enjoying the monopoly of handling bulk grain at the port of Mombasa.

While Ruto wants more firms to be licensed to undertake similar activities as those of GBHL, Raila has persistently defended the status quo arguing that GBHL was still under-utilised. But Ruto maintains that competition was necessary and that the government should license as many other firms as necessary, saying currently the other handlers in the market were too small effectively giving GBHL monopolistic status.

And a fortnight ago Ruto rebuked GBHL management after the firm placed advertisements in the media defending itself against a range of accusations. The agriculture minister told the firm's management that it had no business commenting on whether or not Mombasa needs a second bulk grain handler.

The minister said the decision to license other players was the prerogative of the government. "Grain Bulk should not try and go to lengths to explain an issue that is essentially for the government to determine," Ruto was quoted saying immediately after GBHL had placed advertisements in the daily papers titled "Lies peddled against GBHL in the media".

A tender by the Kenya Ports Authority inviting bids for a second grain handler late last year was suspended at the eleventh hour through the instigation of Raila in a move that has since raised hue and cry among players interested in investing in the sector.

However, the insistence by Ruto against Raila's wishes to have a second bulk grain handler would further raise political temperatures in ODM, which of late is staring at imminent split.

Mvita MP Najib Balala in whose constituency GBHL stands was also said to be in support of a second bulk grain handler. The owners of GBHL do not see eye to eye with Balala. It is instructive to note of late Balala is not in good books of the PM. He hardly attends his functions.

There are speculations that soon rather than later Balala will make a major political move with the pontential to shake ODM to its very foundations. Other rumours also have it that Balala may be kicked out of the cabinet by Raila and replaced by Kisauni MP Hassan Ali Joho who of late seems to have mend fences with the premier.

Ruto is said to enjoy good rapport with the executive Chairman of Mombasa Maize Millers Mohammed Islam Ali who the Minister recently appointed to the board of trustees of National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB).

It is imperative to note, Mombasa Maize millers (MMM) is one of those firms monopolizing the milling industry in the country.

Mombasa Maize Millers controls 33 pc and has eight mills spread across the country. In Nairobi, it runs the former Kabansora Mills located in Industrial area. In Kisumu, the Mohammed Islam Ali group has acquired Swan Millers while in Nakuru, it has bought Grain Milling Corporation.
Back in Nairobi, MMM is also in-charge of Ex-SupaFlo Mills while in Mombasa where it has its headquarters, MMM acquired Ex-Milly, and runs its original plant.

Confirmed reports by Weekly Citizen also reveal that MMM has in its tag, ex-Bayusuf Grain Millers located in Nairobi.

Pembe Group follows with is second with 18 pc while Premier also with two mills enjoys 16 pc in the milling market.

Analysts in the industry reveal, the combined capacity of MMM, Pembe and Premier stands at 3,320 metric tonnes which adds to 67 pc.

It is emerging, other directors of MMM have been pushing Ruto to okay a second gram terminal the reason being that they are importers, millers and distributors and the only link missing to monopolise the grain trade industry is handling at the port.

The other MMM directors caught in the saga are Ahmed Bin Ali and Ali Islam Ali. They are known to entertain Ruto whenever he is in Mombasa.

Dealers in the field openly state that world prices, government taxes and local handling costs affect flour prices in the shops.

Kenya has in the recent past imported the bulk of its requirement of wheat, as land under wheat acreage is insufficient to produce the quantity required. Over the past year mere have been
significant reductions to the cost of wheat arriving at the port of Mombasa.

However, much as is the case for fuel prices, these reductions have not been reflected in changes for the consumer.

In 2007 there was a shortage of wheat on world markets, leading to scarcity and resultant price increases. The price of flour in the shops soared, reaching around Sh 120 for a 2kg bag.

In 2008, the supply side of world wheat production improved, and wheat followed the trend downward of a number of other commodities. Coupled to this, the Government intervened to reduce import duties on wheat, a move which aligned Kenyan millers more closely with their regional competitors.

Has this cost reduction benefited consumers? An analysis of relevant data indicates otherwise.


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You think Ruto will fallout with Raila over a deal like that? Uhuru dumped Ruto because he no longer needed him after winning; Uhuru is not going for re-election; he is maximizing his 5yrs
You are talking of politics , Im talking of business and how it was turned out to be political. RV why did Uhuru and Ruto " fall out " ?


https://kenyapolitical.blogspot.com/2009/02/grain-bulk-handling-saga.html?m=1




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Grain Bulk Handling Saga

Prime Minister Raila Odinga and Agriculture minister William Ruto have sharply differed over whether or not the Grain Bulk Handlers Limited should continue enjoying the monopoly of handling bulk grain at the port of Mombasa.

While Ruto wants more firms to be licensed to undertake similar activities as those of GBHL, Raila has persistently defended the status quo arguing that GBHL was still under-utilised. But Ruto maintains that competition was necessary and that the government should license as many other firms as necessary, saying currently the other handlers in the market were too small effectively giving GBHL monopolistic status.

And a fortnight ago Ruto rebuked GBHL management after the firm placed advertisements in the media defending itself against a range of accusations. The agriculture minister told the firm's management that it had no business commenting on whether or not Mombasa needs a second bulk grain handler.

The minister said the decision to license other players was the prerogative of the government. "Grain Bulk should not try and go to lengths to explain an issue that is essentially for the government to determine," Ruto was quoted saying immediately after GBHL had placed advertisements in the daily papers titled "Lies peddled against GBHL in the media".

A tender by the Kenya Ports Authority inviting bids for a second grain handler late last year was suspended at the eleventh hour through the instigation of Raila in a move that has since raised hue and cry among players interested in investing in the sector.

However, the insistence by Ruto against Raila's wishes to have a second bulk grain handler would further raise political temperatures in ODM, which of late is staring at imminent split.

Mvita MP Najib Balala in whose constituency GBHL stands was also said to be in support of a second bulk grain handler. The owners of GBHL do not see eye to eye with Balala. It is instructive to note of late Balala is not in good books of the PM. He hardly attends his functions.

There are speculations that soon rather than later Balala will make a major political move with the pontential to shake ODM to its very foundations. Other rumours also have it that Balala may be kicked out of the cabinet by Raila and replaced by Kisauni MP Hassan Ali Joho who of late seems to have mend fences with the premier.

Ruto is said to enjoy good rapport with the executive Chairman of Mombasa Maize Millers Mohammed Islam Ali who the Minister recently appointed to the board of trustees of National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB).

It is imperative to note, Mombasa Maize millers (MMM) is one of those firms monopolizing the milling industry in the country.

Mombasa Maize Millers controls 33 pc and has eight mills spread across the country. In Nairobi, it runs the former Kabansora Mills located in Industrial area. In Kisumu, the Mohammed Islam Ali group has acquired Swan Millers while in Nakuru, it has bought Grain Milling Corporation.
Back in Nairobi, MMM is also in-charge of Ex-SupaFlo Mills while in Mombasa where it has its headquarters, MMM acquired Ex-Milly, and runs its original plant.

Confirmed reports by Weekly Citizen also reveal that MMM has in its tag, ex-Bayusuf Grain Millers located in Nairobi.

Pembe Group follows with is second with 18 pc while Premier also with two mills enjoys 16 pc in the milling market.

Analysts in the industry reveal, the combined capacity of MMM, Pembe and Premier stands at 3,320 metric tonnes which adds to 67 pc.

It is emerging, other directors of MMM have been pushing Ruto to okay a second gram terminal the reason being that they are importers, millers and distributors and the only link missing to monopolise the grain trade industry is handling at the port.

The other MMM directors caught in the saga are Ahmed Bin Ali and Ali Islam Ali. They are known to entertain Ruto whenever he is in Mombasa.

Dealers in the field openly state that world prices, government taxes and local handling costs affect flour prices in the shops.

Kenya has in the recent past imported the bulk of its requirement of wheat, as land under wheat acreage is insufficient to produce the quantity required. Over the past year mere have been
significant reductions to the cost of wheat arriving at the port of Mombasa.

However, much as is the case for fuel prices, these reductions have not been reflected in changes for the consumer.

In 2007 there was a shortage of wheat on world markets, leading to scarcity and resultant price increases. The price of flour in the shops soared, reaching around Sh 120 for a 2kg bag.

In 2008, the supply side of world wheat production improved, and wheat followed the trend downward of a number of other commodities. Coupled to this, the Government intervened to reduce import duties on wheat, a move which aligned Kenyan millers more closely with their regional competitors.

Has this cost reduction benefited consumers? An analysis of relevant data indicates otherwise.


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Sounds like Ruto the Great book of hymns. Ruto has never been PORK or proven any better than Raila objectively. Who knows how many times he will lose the elections after 2022?

Ruto-Raila fallout is no different from Raila-Kibaki or Uhuruto implosion. Misaligned interest. The rest about MOUs or Sagana are excuses to sell to the masses. Ruto wanted to be PORK and saw Gema partnership as easier path than ODM. The jury is out.

Before ODM-K fallout Ruto actually wanted Kalonzo to be PORK. 8)
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How is Gema route easy? When GEMA were then baying for his blood. ODM was the easy route - because Raila would have gone in for 10yrs - but Ruto after Sagana was done with Raila - he had given Raila one too many chance.

Remember Ruto indeed was not for Raila - he was for Kalonzo - this was because ODM-K committee and everyone with brain - knew Kalonzo stood better chance than Raila.Gumo-Ntimama ODM-K elders - with a secretariat - presented findings showing Kalonzo would win by 58 percent like they had done in referendum - but Raila/MaDVD would struggle. GEMA had no big problem with Kalonzo - but will pull all stops on Raila.

Ruto broke it down to Raila - and asked him to back Kalonzo. Raila and Kajwang started shedding tears in Kenya Club - ohoo people do not like us Luos - bla de bla. The meeting ended. Raila and his Luo crew then besieged Ruto in his house in Karen. Raila run to Kass fm - told people that they wanted him out coz he was Luo -  bla bla - Kalenjin also then were so angry with Kibaki - they need the man kibaki hated the most - Raila.

In short - Ruto gave Raila two chances - and he blew it.

As we speak - Mt kenya are still pulling all stops to prevent Raila presidency.

Sounds like Ruto the Great book of hymns. Ruto has never been PORK or proven any better than Raila objectively. Who knows how many times he will lose the elections after 2022?

Ruto-Raila fallout is no different from Raila-Kibaki or Uhuruto implosion. Misaligned interest. The rest about MOUs or Sagana are excuses to sell to the masses. Ruto wanted to be PORK and saw Gema partnership as easier path than ODM. The jury is out.

Before ODM-K fallout Ruto actually wanted Kalonzo to be PORK. 8)

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Gema anti-Raila bile has thawed thanks to Uhuru and Kieleweke backing. He does not interfere direct unlike Ruto - playing smart. Let see how your almighty Ruto performs - I see you giving him Gema vote even in Lamu West  :)
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Sounds like Ruto the Great book of hymns. Ruto has never been PORK or proven any better than Raila objectively. Who knows how many times he will lose the elections after 2022?

Ruto-Raila fallout is no different from Raila-Kibaki or Uhuruto implosion. Misaligned interest. The rest about MOUs or Sagana are excuses to sell to the masses. Ruto wanted to be PORK and saw Gema partnership as easier path than ODM. The jury is out.

Before ODM-K fallout Ruto actually wanted Kalonzo to be PORK. 8)

Exactly! This is what people have skirted for many years. If Raila failed to maximize his advantages after winning 2007, then how does one let Ruto get away with not maximizing his opportunity to be PORK after Uhuru? He had the clearest path to State House under the Uhuruto partnership but messed it up. Now he is fighting his boss, forcing him to look for help in Raila, Gideon etc. If Raila messed up 2007, Ruto equally messed up his State House path in 2022. As at now, he is in pole position to lose everything.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Sounds like Ruto the Great book of hymns. Ruto has never been PORK or proven any better than Raila objectively. Who knows how many times he will lose the elections after 2022?

Ruto-Raila fallout is no different from Raila-Kibaki or Uhuruto implosion. Misaligned interest. The rest about MOUs or Sagana are excuses to sell to the masses. Ruto wanted to be PORK and saw Gema partnership as easier path than ODM. The jury is out.

Before ODM-K fallout Ruto actually wanted Kalonzo to be PORK. 8)

Exactly! This is what people have skirted for many years. If Raila failed to maximize his advantages after winning 2007, then how does one let Ruto get away with not maximizing his opportunity to be PORK after Uhuru? He had the clearest path to State House under the Uhuruto partnership but messed it up. Now he is fighting his boss, forcing him to look for help in Raila, Gideon etc. If Raila messed up 2007, Ruto equally messed up his State House path in 2022. As at now, he is in pole position to lose everything.

If you follow Tangatanga long stories here you would think Ruto started from zero. But you check and find his Jubilee mean machine was a 55% behemoth Raila destroyed. The guy has a brand new party with 1 MP, 2 MCAs; - he got beaten in almost all by-elections in mainstream non-Gema and barely made it in Mt Kenya - 1% margin. But he is sleepwalking to State House.

I have read a funny story that Ruto has the Mijikenda. Because Jumwa and Mwashetani follow him around.
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Ruto has managed to do what NO MAN in kenya save for Kibaki in brief 2 months under NARA has done - unite GEMA and Non-GEMA. This epic story that is why Ruto is sleep walking to PORK. And everyone else is scrambling to unite.

Ruto win-win has thawed GEMA and Non-GEMA rivarlies. Obviously Ruto has done a lot more behind the scene to dehorn GEMA competitors and has meticously work hard to reach there.

If Ruto get GEMA in good number - we are looking at winning by 60 percent plus or nearly 2/3


If you follow Tangatanga long stories here you would think Ruto started from zero. But you check and find his Jubilee mean machine was a 55% behemoth Raila destroyed. The guy has a brand new party with 1 MP, 2 MCAs; - he got beaten in almost all by-elections in mainstream non-Gema and barely made it in Mt Kenya - 1% margin. But he is sleepwalking to State House.

I have read a funny story that Ruto has the Mijikenda. Because Jumwa and Mwashetani follow him around.