Kenya politics in throes of a generation change

[RV Pundit]

Ruto will work with what you have. If you have Moses Kuria, Gachagua, and Kiunjuri - he cannot come and choose the leaders you failed to elect.

Yes elect more Ndidi Nyoro and Kabete Ichungwa - that is the future. Those two have the right brains to take kikuyu nation further.
Kangata sio mbaya pia I like Alice Wahome.

I see Ichungwa running away with Finance Ministry for example - he did extremely well in budget office - before Uhuru mess.

In short you cannot give Ruto the responsibility of choosing who to work with - Ruto will work with elected Mt kenya leaders.

Ruto has to work hard to convince over 35 year old in Central that Akina gachagua are better than the current cabinet. It will be a very hard sell to kikuyus in kiambu

[KenyanPlato]

It is for ruto to convince the core 45% that won't support him no matter what. He has 55% of young voters support but remember even in Central older generation has influence and if they plead with young voters not to vote for ruto his support will go to 20%. Ruto needs to work take nasa base from raila. Central is not so reliable. Otherwise I see a situation where raila keeps nasa and wins with a very slim margin or loses with a very slim one. Voter apathy will be huge in 2022

[RV Pundit]

That is a lot of hardwork. We just need Raila to run. When core 45% with doubts see Raila -on the ballot - they will choose the better devil.The biggest fear is the 45 percent getting more credible option. Even us we had issue with Mlevi 001 - but we voted. All Ruto need to do is sign 50-50 with Mt kenya leaders - and pick DPORK who will be acceptable to everyone. Kiunjuri need to step up, fold his tissue paper party and join UDA before its too late.

It is for ruto to convince the core 45% that won't support him no matter what. He has 55% of young voters support but remember even in Central older generation has influence and if they plead with young voters not to vote for ruto his support will go to 20%. Ruto needs to work take nasa base from raila. Central is not so reliable. Otherwise I see a situation where raila keeps nasa and wins with a very slim margin or loses with a very slim one. Voter apathy will be huge in 2022

[KenyanPlato]

Kalenjins and luos will turnout. Kikuyus turnout will willxbe in low. Kiunjuri cannot be accepted. You need ndindi nyoro. Kiunjuri is seen as a mungiki type, remember kikuyus hate kikuyus conservatives (mungiki type of idiots) kounjiri is seen by protestants as a fgm sympathizer. Resurgence of mungiki has killed kiunjuri brand

[Nowayhaha]

I really dont know why Raila supporters think a vote for Jubilee is a vote for Raila.
One ODM never fielded a candidaye in the by elections. Im 100% sure if it eas in Nyanza UDA eould have fielded a candidate . Secondly OFM lost in twice in Nyanza in byelections held post 2017. Did this mean that they will vote against Raila come 2032. Ofcourse No.

Uhuru has no leadership qualities . It was experienced in how he mismanaged K.A.N.U.
Now its being experienced how he has mismanaged Jubilee and lastly Mt Kenya leadership.
Uhuru cares for his family period . His truce with Raila was all about hos family snd looting.
How Raila supporters think Uhuru support will aid him in 2022 is pure wizadry.

It is for ruto to convince the core 45% that won't support him no matter what. He has 55% of young voters support but remember even in Central older generation has influence and if they plead with young voters not to vote for ruto his support will go to 20%. Ruto needs to work take nasa base from raila. Central is not so reliable. Otherwise I see a situation where raila keeps nasa and wins with a very slim margin or loses with a very slim one. Voter apathy will be huge in 2022

[Nowayhaha]

You should have stopped at Raila Running.

That is a lot of hardwork. We just need Raila to run. When core 45% with doubts see Raila -on the ballot - they will choose the better devil.The biggest fear is the 45 percent getting more credible option. Even us we had issue with Mlevi 001 - but we voted. All Ruto need to do is sign 50-50 with Mt kenya leaders - and pick DPORK who will be acceptable to everyone. Kiunjuri need to step up, fold his tissue paper party and join UDA before its too late.

It is for ruto to convince the core 45% that won't support him no matter what. He has 55% of young voters support but remember even in Central older generation has influence and if they plead with young voters not to vote for ruto his support will go to 20%. Ruto needs to work take nasa base from raila. Central is not so reliable. Otherwise I see a situation where raila keeps nasa and wins with a very slim margin or loses with a very slim one. Voter apathy will be huge in 2022

[Nowayhaha]

These Raila supporters amaze me.They said UDA wont win now they are saying Mt Kenyans wont turn out in 2022 elections.
Fact is if Raila will be on the ballot then as 07,13 and 17 they will gang up to ensure he loses.
Politics is not science .

Kalenjins and luos will turnout. Kikuyus turnout will willxbe in low. Kiunjuri cannot be accepted. You need ndindi nyoro. Kiunjuri is seen as a mungiki type, remember kikuyus hate kikuyus conservatives (mungiki type of idiots) kounjiri is seen by protestants as a fgm sympathizer. Resurgence of mungiki has killed kiunjuri brand

[KenyanPlato]

Nowwhere...over 45% of kikuyus won't vote for  ruto

[RV Pundit]

Alice Wahome maybe - coz she senior - otherwise Ndindi Nyoro doesnt have what it takes to be DPORK YET; that seat requires someone who can step in and become PORK if Ruto was to suddenly die after relection magufuli style.

Ndidi kwanza akuwe minister. Kuria and Ichungwa and Gachagua - are in that league.

So the way I see - considering all factors - Alice Wahome (muranga plus woman plus senior fighter) versus Kiunjuri (diaspora with roots in  nyeri, tough, kikuyu nationalist) versus maybe wild card Muturi.

Beside I think Ruto already made a deal with Kiunjuri - Ruto is not going to dump him unless and unless.

So Kiunjuri still the man to beat...with Alice Wahome a wildcard...justin muturi if mt kenya east unites.

Kiunjuri though is making a mess with TSP - Kikuyus are so angry they want piss Uhuru directly.

Kalenjins and luos will turnout. Kikuyus turnout will willxbe in low. Kiunjuri cannot be accepted. You need ndindi nyoro. Kiunjuri is seen as a mungiki type, remember kikuyus hate kikuyus conservatives (mungiki type of idiots) kounjiri is seen by protestants as a fgm sympathizer. Resurgence of mungiki has killed kiunjuri brand

[Nowayhaha]

Says Raila supporter amd you wonder ehy every election you are on the losimg side.

Nowwhere...over 45% of kikuyus won't vote for  ruto

[Nowayhaha]

Come on Rv , not Wahome. Leader atajitokezea .......

Alice Wahome maybe - coz she senior - otherwise Ndindi Nyoro doesnt have what it takes to be DPORK YET; that seat requires someone who can step in and become PORK if Ruto was to suddenly die after relection magufuli style.

Ndidi kwanza akuwe minister. Kuria and Ichungwa and Gachagua - are in that league.

So the way I see - considering all factors - Alice Wahome (muranga plus woman plus senior fighter) versus Kiunjuri (diaspora with roots in  nyeri, tough, kikuyu nationalist) versus maybe wild card Muturi.

Beside I think Ruto already made a deal with Kiunjuri - Ruto is not going to dump him unless and unless.

So Kiunjuri still the man to beat...with Alice Wahome a wildcard...justin muturi if mt kenya east unites.

Kiunjuri though is making a mess with TSP - Kikuyus are so angry they want piss Uhuru directly.

Kalenjins and luos will turnout. Kikuyus turnout will willxbe in low. Kiunjuri cannot be accepted. You need ndindi nyoro. Kiunjuri is seen as a mungiki type, remember kikuyus hate kikuyus conservatives (mungiki type of idiots) kounjiri is seen by protestants as a fgm sympathizer. Resurgence of mungiki has killed kiunjuri brand

[Nefertiti]

Senator Agnes Kavindu is 60s - Ngengele is 30s I think. Only "mtu yetu" tribalism mattered. Generation bado - probably you will get to women first. Ruto picks young turks to drive a narrative. Not sure it really working.

I am talking young leaders presenting themselves. Not young voters. I am saying in Wiper - we might see a generational change.

The only big dynamic is Gema has split down the middle - thanks to Jubilee divorce. If you look at say Machakos - there was no youth or bodaboda vote - 85% Wiper. I don't get what Pundit is celebrating.

[RV Pundit]

Definitely for UDA - I see young leaders - dominating - and that should get us 50 percent of the pie - with mostly young leaders. In place like Gusii - where average leader is 80yrs - there is serious problem.

Hustler nation will inspire many young leaders - to go for it - they are mostly poor.

Other parties will try to copy that hustler thing coz it selling

Senator Agnes Kavindu is 60s - Ngengele is 30s I think. Only "mtu yetu" tribalism mattered. Generation bado - probably you will get to women first. Ruto picks young turks to drive a narrative. Not sure it really working.

[Nefertiti]

Just allow free, fair open primaries bila mapendeleo. Voters will decide themselves.  Besides tribal coalitions the dynamics are economic carrots: Ruto bottom-up vs Raila rural something. This "empower the poor" hustlers or rural folks is the BIG LIE this election cycle. 2002 it was new katiba in 100 days. 2013 it was Jubilee digital. Now it bottom-up and rural regeneration. Mana from heaven.

[RV Pundit]

Hustler nation sio mchezo - it's the Orange revolution of ODM - and the Narc revolution - and of course Jubilee revolution. It tribal of course - but people need to believe in something. Like CHANGE of Obama. Or MAGA by Trump.

Just allow free, fair open primaries bila mapendeleo. Voters will decide themselves.  Besides tribal coalitions the dynamics are economic carrots: Ruto bottom-up vs Raila rural something. This "empower the poor" hustlers or rural folks is the BIG LIE this election cycle. 2002 it was new katiba in 100 days. 2013 it was Jubilee digital. Now it bottom-up and rural regeneration. Mana from heaven.

[Nefertiti]

Hustler and bottom-up ponzi have been around for a year plus. No real momentum - Ruto crew have lost more of the contests than they won. Gema is just splitting as we long expected - nothing to do with hustler or bottom-up.

As they flesh out bottom-up 30B or 100M per constituency (more CDF?) - or rural thing - expect the big lie to be exposed. It will be just make-believe freebies marathon. There is just no capacity to do all those things - FREE CAPITAL FOR MILLIONS - while paying teachers, make roads and repay huge China debt. 35B a month.

If you devolve 35% - you devolve functions - not free money. There is equally no loose 30B for hustlers - 10% of budget - these are usual campaign lies. Expect Raila rural to be full of windmills and factories. Kenyans will be left high & dry as usual after all the big promises.

Hustler nation sio mchezo - it's the Orange revolution of ODM - and the Narc revolution - and of course Jubilee revolution. It tribal of course - but people need to believe in something. Like CHANGE of Obama. Or MAGA by Trump.

[RV Pundit]

Youre luckly Ruto has had to stay at home with COVID otherwise by Now Uhuru would have banned hustler revolution. The next stage is propaganda. Uhuru may use lockdown to block political campaigns. Ruto is luckly he had Hustler Nation already off.

If he had waited it would be too late.

Raila BBI has died - and now we have rural transformation - sound like Moi in 1984!

Hustler and bottom-up ponzi have been around for a year plus. No real momentum - Ruto crew have lost more of the contests than they won. Gema is just splitting as we long expected - nothing to do with hustler or bottom-up.

As they flesh out bottom-up 30B or 100M per constituency (more CDF?) - or rural thing - expect the big lie to be exposed. It will be just make-believe freebies marathon. There is just no capacity to do all those things - FREE CAPITAL FOR MILLIONS - while paying teachers, make roads and repay huge China debt. 35B a month.

If you devolve 35% - you devolve functions - not free money. There is equally no lose 30B for hustlers - 10% of budget - these are usual campaign lies. Expect Raila rural to be full of windmills and factories. Kenyans will be left high & dry as usual after all the big promises.

Hustler nation sio mchezo - it's the Orange revolution of ODM - and the Narc revolution - and of course Jubilee revolution. It tribal of course - but people need to believe in something. Like CHANGE of Obama. Or MAGA by Trump.

[Nefertiti]

I expect rural to be full of colorful graphics from Israel and Netherlands - and China - of magic dairy farms and irrigation. It a checkmate for bottom-up until BBI get back on track.

[RV Pundit]

Very good   Bora you do not go to Kabila Mbili na Wezi; If you keep it rural farms with colourful pictures ( - RUTO will beat you 10-nil.

I expect rural to be full of colorful graphics from Israel and Netherlands - and China - of magic dairy farms and irrigation. It a checkmate for bottom-up until BBI get back on track.