Noway, how do we stop Corruption in Rutos government

[Njuri Ncheke]

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Since its crystal clear now Ruto will be president. The main problem we have is how he will tackle corruption bearing in mind most of his bigwigs are in big time magendo. Ruto himself has failed to clear his standing on corruption and never says how he will fight it. This is too worrying how will he stop rampant corruption especially from a new kalenjin class consisting of pundit and sudi,while GEMA Corruption is mainly progressive as money stolen ends up forming new companies and creating employment Kalenjin corruption money ends up abroad and buying mipango ya kandos and other wasteful ways. How do we deal with corruption then?

[RV Pundit]

Dont be overly concerned about corruption. Trust me for every 1shs Ruto will steal; he will create 9shs for you. What is important in country like kenya is not fighting corruption - it's creating wealth.

You're like a poor man trying to erect 20 feet security fence, 20 dogs and all that - to protect your SANYO radio and torn pairs of boxes. EACC spends more than it recovers. It only ARA that seem to be making headways.

There is nothing to protect in kenya - it's too poor. If corruption reduces to zero - it will still be poor.

What Kenya poor man need to do is to go out there and create real wealth.

Listen to Ruto for ideas on how to create wealth. During Moi era there was real wealth - a Kalenjin lowest civil servant like a driver could afford to buy a house in NHS Nyayo estate - for 200K - and pay rent which was equal to tenant purchase. Kalenjin kid out of high school had jobs to choose from - Army or Posta or name it. Gov was big and hiring annually. The private sector too. That was the glorious 80s. There were no slums - just a few Nubians making Changaa.

Obviously in 90s  - opposition asked the donors to crash the kenya economy to make Moi unpopular - but Moi survived 10yrs - and Kenya economy crushed.

Kibaki came and started directing real investment into PONZI schemes like Nairobi Stock Exchange - that has NOW SUNK BILLIONS of money of many people. The donors and creditors came back. Chinese happened.

Let us thank the Chinese for infrastructure investment in Africa the last 20yrs...otherwise kenya would be DOING BADLY.

We need to go back to the glorious Kalenjin 80s - where NJuri today can buy a house for 5K  rent - a decent house where you can raise kids - and do not have to go live in Kamau Slumscrapper in Kayole or Dandora. That alone Ruto says will unlock 30B dollars...3 trillion Kshs...in 5yrs.

Since its crystal clear now Ruto will be president. The main problem we have is how he will tackle corruption bearing in mind most of his bigwigs are in big time magendo. Ruto himself has failed to clear his standing on corruption and never says how he will fight it. This is too worrying how will he stop rampant corruption especially from a new kalenjin class consisting of pundit and sudi,while GEMA Corruption is mainly progressive as money stolen ends up forming new companies and creating employment Kalenjin corruption money ends up abroad and buying mipango ya kandos and other wasteful ways. How do we deal with corruption then?

[Njuri Ncheke]

I agree that country can develop with corruption being present still many Asian tigers are corrupt to a level like Kenya but economically years ahead. Believe me there is good corruption where you steal and invest in the country with new companies and start ups but there's bad corruption stealing and investing abroad. Ruto will grow economy by 10% no question but still he has to fight Sudi like corruption

[RV Pundit]

The days of investing abroad ended with Moi. Moi and kalenjin elite like Biwott were scared of losin or being overthrown like other regimes - and find themselves needing to escape abroad. That phase ended.

Now nobody scared enough to leave the country as our politics has matured... the court system works.

Money stolen now is invested in kenya. If it goes abroad - it stays for a few months - and is brought back.

Because abroad - things have changes - the Swiss are no longer the old swiss - the same with New Jersey - ask the likes who took money there - many Nigerians have lost so much money - as those islands do not want bad money. They want to be wealth managers of clean money. The US once they got involved - things changed.

I agree that country can develop with corruption being present still many asian tigers are corrupt to a level kike Kenya but economically years ahead. Believe me there is good corruption where you steal and invest in the country with new companies and start upels but there's bad corruption stealing and investing abroad. Ruto will grow economy by 10% no question but still he has to fight Sudi like corruption

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Njuri welcome to the Never Ruto camp  It is very clear you having serious misgivings about Luto. It is never too late to have an epiphany about the lord of corruption.

[RV Pundit]

Njuri has spent his entire adult life opposing Raila; he is stuck;best option Ruto; he is just having buyers remorse prematurely. We have left the small young boys to drive the cows like Njuri home - normally kiboko moja works but stubborn cows kalenjin know how to deal with those - their tail is twisted so many times - and inserted into their arse - and they will never look back - meanwhile the real warriors are on the rear guard watching Raila try to rescue the cattle.

He should not worry because look - we elected Uhuru knowing he was a functionally an alcoholic - who only take a break from booze to smoke a cigarette - but we knew Ruto would manage him.

Njuri welcome to the Never Ruto camp  It is very clear you having serious misgivings about Luto. It is never too late to have an epiphany about the lord of corruption.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Dont be overly concerned about corruption. Trust me for every 1shs Ruto will steal; he will create 9shs for you. What is important in country like kenya is not fighting corruption - it's creating wealth.

 

What an imbecile! Only a nyangau with mursik for brains could justifying looting, smh. No wonder wazungus say Africans are hopeless. I think the central weakness of blacks is wish washy ethics, accountability is foreign concept, rectitude and morality are alien to most people.

[RV Pundit]

Stop the melodrama. And argue your point.

Kenya has many problems - corruption is not the main one.

 

What an imbecile! Only a nyangau with mursik for brains could justifying looting, smh. No wonder wazungus say Africans are hopeless. I think the central weakness of blacks is wish washy ethics, accountability is foreign concept, rectitude and morality are alien to most people.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto has clearly said : Corruption cannot stop delivery of a serious gov. Corruption is a side issue. The main issue is the 90% that do not get stolen. Deliver on the 90% - and stop worrying about 10%.When you become developed country - where you've dealt with 90% of the issue - deal with graft.

Corruption is bad - but not compared to lazy useless leaders like Uhuru or Raila or kalonzo or maDVD. The lack of work ethic in Africa is worse than corruption. Just too many people waking up every day with hangovers doing nothing - worse of them in the public sector. Anything in public sector get done slowly and inefficiently. That is worse than corruption.

Look at the Chinese making it in Africa - they pay 10 percent to corrupt fatcats - work 24 hours including Sundays - get the job done - make their profit - and move on. The western nations on the contrary cannot do anything - they smell a whiff of corruption - they go into inactivity - and they avoid Africa.10yrs later - Ohoo China is taking over Africa.

Like Ruto - says - under his gov - there will be no money to steal because gov will work like a clock work. How do you steal  a lot when Ruto will be supervising gov project on day to day basis...from 5 am in the morning...you steal too much..you cannot deliver..you get fired.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Stop the melodrama. And argue your point.

Kenya has many problems - corruption is not the main one.

Bwahaha! Look at this fool?

Corruption is what has brought this country to its knees, we are are in debt distress as a result of SGR and other capital intensive projects designed to loot the public coffers. Wake up Ruto fanboy. It is okay to support your tribesman but don't entertain us with nonsense like corruption is not the main problem. You risk being labeled a troll.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Of course Ruto would say corruption is not a problem  eti 90%? in Kenya 2/3rd of government revenues end up being misappropriated. He trying to push a pro corruption spin into things. Hawes make. He will be beaten in 2nd round primarily because he is rightly seen as having benefited most of any candidate from ill gotten wealth.

[gout]

The naive clean politicos middling crass should look at Nyamakima. The traders have become a key opposition pillar to ufool due to the war on 'counterfeits' because it beats logic for a poor country.

The question has been who determines what is counterfeit? Just like who shuffles the corruption cases cards at Mazingira or UnIntegrity House?

You intercept wires and bulbs and declare them counterfeit yet consumers are asking for them to be able to deliver cheaper electrical works all over the villages. Counterfeit to who? KEBS and KRA corrupt buggers?? Police, DCI angels?? NIS??

Taxing the wires, bulbs and letting the sector boom was hurting who?? EA Cables donkey??

Just like cheap Chinese phones let the people have their cake at their price. Don't destroy people's lives due to jealousy and silly NIS tablet reports gathered in bars. Watu wa waya wako na pesa sana - tuwafinye. Bure kabisa.

[RV Pundit]

Matusi ni ya nini. Just because Raila is never going to be PORK doesn't mean you lose it. Relax. We disagree on issues.

Stop the melodrama. And argue your point.

Kenya has many problems - corruption is not the main one.

Bwahaha! Look at this fool?

Corruption is what has brought this country to its knees, we are are in debt distress as a result of SGR and other capital intensive projects designed to loot the public coffers. Wake up Ruto fanboy. It is okay to support your tribesman but don't entertain us with nonsense like corruption is not the main problem. You risk being labeled a troll.

[RV Pundit]

Why would Ruto a corrupt fat cat be leading. It obvious kenyans know corruption is not the main issue. The main issue is who CAN DELIVER MAENDELEO.

Of course Ruto would say corruption is not a problem  eti 90%? in Kenya 2/3rd of government revenues end up being misappropriated. He trying to push a pro corruption spin into things. Hawes make. He will be beaten in 2nd round primarily because he is rightly seen as having benefited most of any candidate from ill gotten wealth.

[RV Pundit]

I actually knew Uhuru would fail the moment he declared he will fight corruption first and foremost (fight Ruto) threaten gov into inactivity. Nothing can be procured or initiated because everyone is scared. The gov agencies go overboard and send the wrong signals.

The fight against graft or counterfeit should be on the background - methodologically done - by EACC and the likes - don't give it prominence - because it soon lead to scared folks - both gov and in business - leading to inactivity - leading to economic problems.

Investment is confidence game. You don't want to scare civil servants, or business community, or investment - with "tough" corruption lynching mobs, magufuli or raila style.

Look at Magufuli - he went hard on corruption - and he destroyed Tanzania economy. He had to fake GDP figures and had to enact dictatorship to survive. Capital flight in TZ to Kenya and elsewhere became the order. Kenya business who would invest in there - have avoided TZ. Foreign investor the same...TZ official got scared they could barely do anything. Thank goodness for Corona..because TZ was going down.

Corruption should be fought as any crime - and it should be not be the main issue - the main issue should be ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT in and of itself. That is the goal or the output...corruption is busy work..the activities...so we focus on what gov delivers...and less on the fitina of who stole what or not...we can start talking kilometers of roads or water pipes or electricity connection or railways built.

The naive clean politicos middling crass should look at Nyamakima. The traders have become a key opposition pillar to ufool due to the war on 'counterfeits' because it beats logic for a poor country.

The question has been who determines what is counterfeit? Just like who shuffles the corruption cases cards at Mazingira or UnIntegrity House?

You intercept wires and bulbs and declare them counterfeit yet consumers are asking for them to be able to deliver cheaper electrical works all over the villages. Counterfeit to who? KEBS and KRA corrupt buggers?? Police, DCI angels?? NIS??

Taxing the wires, bulbs and letting the sector boom was hurting who?? EA Cables donkey??

Just like cheap Chinese phones let the people have their cake at their price. Don't destroy people's lives due to jealousy and silly NIS tablet reports gathered in bars. Watu wa waya wako na pesa sana - tuwafinye. Bure kabisa.

[gout]

Asset Recovery is an example of how to do it. Nobody sees them even in courts or press conferences.

The KRA, DCI, EACC, Counterfeit corrupt officers are now the most liquid guys shooting over each other in pubs not knowing what to do with corrupt proceeds from scared investors.  They have gone totally rogue. Investors have seen Kariuki running to Cyprus as a multibillion investment rots away. 

Once the officers collude with a few crazy employees it is a done deal as is the case with Mastermind or Keroche and many others going under just like Nyamakima.

Going to over scratched record, the West which wax lyrical on morals and ethical development was built on corruption and evil. Slavery, genocides and plunder of Africa and Latin

I actually knew Uhuru would fail the moment he declared he will fight corruption first and foremost (fight Ruto) threaten gov into inactivity. Nothing can be procured or initiated because everyone is scared. The gov agencies go overboard and send the wrong signals.

The fight against graft or counterfeit should be on the background - methodologically done - by EACC and the likes - don't give it prominence - because it soon lead to scared folks - both gov and in business - leading to inactivity - leading to economic problems.

Investment is confidence game. You don't want to scare civil servants, or business community, or investment - with "tough" corruption lynching mobs, magufuli or raila style.

Look at Magufuli - he went hard on corruption - and he destroyed Tanzania economy. He had to fake GDP figures and had to enact dictatorship to survive. Capital flight in TZ to Kenya and elsewhere became the order. Kenya business who would invest in there - have avoided TZ. Foreign investor the same...TZ official got scared they could barely do anything. Thank goodness for Corona..because TZ was going down.

Corruption should be fought as any crime - and it should be not be the main issue - the main issue should be ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT in and of itself. That is the goal or the output...corruption is busy work..the activities...so we focus on what gov delivers...and less on the fitina of who stole what or not...we can start talking kilometers of roads or water pipes or electricity connection or railways built.

The naive clean politicos middling crass should look at Nyamakima. The traders have become a key opposition pillar to ufool due to the war on 'counterfeits' because it beats logic for a poor country.

The question has been who determines what is counterfeit? Just like who shuffles the corruption cases cards at Mazingira or UnIntegrity House?

You intercept wires and bulbs and declare them counterfeit yet consumers are asking for them to be able to deliver cheaper electrical works all over the villages. Counterfeit to who? KEBS and KRA corrupt buggers?? Police, DCI angels?? NIS??

Taxing the wires, bulbs and letting the sector boom was hurting who?? EA Cables donkey??

Just like cheap Chinese phones let the people have their cake at their price. Don't destroy people's lives due to jealousy and silly NIS tablet reports gathered in bars. Watu wa waya wako na pesa sana - tuwafinye. Bure kabisa.

America.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Njuri welcome to the Never Ruto camp  It is very clear you having serious misgivings about Luto. It is never too late to have an epiphany about the lord of corruption.

I don't have any iota of doubt with Ruto. Problem is with his henchmen like pundit and Sudi. That's where trouble lies and we have to innoculate against kalenjin corruption.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Njuri has spent his entire adult life opposing Raila; he is stuck;best option Ruto; he is just having buyers remorse prematurely. We have left the small young boys to drive the cows like Njuri home - normally kiboko moja works but stubborn cows kalenjin know how to deal with those - their tail is twisted so many times - and inserted into their arse - and they will never look back - meanwhile the real warriors are on the rear guard watching Raila try to rescue the cattle.

He should not worry because look - we elected Uhuru knowing he was a functionally an alcoholic - who only take a break from booze to smoke a cigarette - but we knew Ruto would manage him.

Njuri welcome to the Never Ruto camp  It is very clear you having serious misgivings about Luto. It is never too late to have an epiphany about the lord of corruption.

Very funny. I bet by march 2023 you will be offline after landing several tenders and supplying with your briefcase company hot air. Pundit you will spend your money screwing upmarket slay queens and other funny behavior s

[RV Pundit]

Exactly - Asset Recovery is good example. The Harambee house boys - Kinoti - Haji - and EACC - became political wings - and of course soon extortion ring.

Fighting graft should be taken to the background - and should be ongoing basis.

Yes Uhuru has killed many business with fake wars - Karuiki, many in sugar industries, name it.

Asset Recovery is an example of how to do it. Nobody sees them even in courts or press conferences.

The KRA, DCI, EACC, Counterfeit corrupt officers are now the most liquid guys shooting over each other in pubs not knowing what to do with corrupt proceeds from scared investors.  They have gone totally rogue. Investors have seen Kariuki running to Cyprus as a multibillion investment rots away. 

Once the officers collude with a few crazy employees it is a done deal as is the case with Mastermind or Keroche and many others going under just like Nyamakima.

Going to over scratched record, the West which wax lyrical on morals and ethical development was built on corruption and evil. Slavery, genocides and plunder of Africa and Latin

I actually knew Uhuru would fail the moment he declared he will fight corruption first and foremost (fight Ruto) threaten gov into inactivity. Nothing can be procured or initiated because everyone is scared. The gov agencies go overboard and send the wrong signals.

The fight against graft or counterfeit should be on the background - methodologically done - by EACC and the likes - don't give it prominence - because it soon lead to scared folks - both gov and in business - leading to inactivity - leading to economic problems.

Investment is confidence game. You don't want to scare civil servants, or business community, or investment - with "tough" corruption lynching mobs, magufuli or raila style.

Look at Magufuli - he went hard on corruption - and he destroyed Tanzania economy. He had to fake GDP figures and had to enact dictatorship to survive. Capital flight in TZ to Kenya and elsewhere became the order. Kenya business who would invest in there - have avoided TZ. Foreign investor the same...TZ official got scared they could barely do anything. Thank goodness for Corona..because TZ was going down.

Corruption should be fought as any crime - and it should be not be the main issue - the main issue should be ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT in and of itself. That is the goal or the output...corruption is busy work..the activities...so we focus on what gov delivers...and less on the fitina of who stole what or not...we can start talking kilometers of roads or water pipes or electricity connection or railways built.

The naive clean politicos middling crass should look at Nyamakima. The traders have become a key opposition pillar to ufool due to the war on 'counterfeits' because it beats logic for a poor country.

The question has been who determines what is counterfeit? Just like who shuffles the corruption cases cards at Mazingira or UnIntegrity House?

You intercept wires and bulbs and declare them counterfeit yet consumers are asking for them to be able to deliver cheaper electrical works all over the villages. Counterfeit to who? KEBS and KRA corrupt buggers?? Police, DCI angels?? NIS??

Taxing the wires, bulbs and letting the sector boom was hurting who?? EA Cables donkey??

Just like cheap Chinese phones let the people have their cake at their price. Don't destroy people's lives due to jealousy and silly NIS tablet reports gathered in bars. Watu wa waya wako na pesa sana - tuwafinye. Bure kabisa.

America.

[Nefertiti]

  I fear we will need suicide watch for some people.