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Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« on: July 04, 2021, 12:37:30 PM »






https://nation.africa/kenya/blogs-opinion/opinion/william-ruto-the-fifth-president-3460330
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2021, 01:05:45 PM »
If in the last 4yrs; they have been unable to finish Ruto politically; then it next few months; they cannot. All anti-Ruto forces are depending on the goodwill of Uhuru. what they dont know is Uhuru is preparing for retirement; his business is to govern until 2022 and to ensure he does it in peaceful way. Logically and rationally - all this BBI/handshake/aggression on ruto - is to govern peaceful alone - by promising hot air to Raila and taking out Ruto from gov.

In short - If anybody is busy waiting for Uhuru to pull all the stops to stop Ruto ako na shida sana.All it will take btw Uhuru and Ruto is one afternoon talk - they hug and it over. Uhuru already know Mt kenya has gone to Ruto...he has full intelligence.

Therefore NASA brigade if they were smart would have kept NASA united; but they have damaged their alliance; in the hope that Uhuru will pick one of them; Now even if it pick them; Mt kenya has gone rogue on Uhuru.

What we are likely to see - Post August Confirmation of BBI death - ODM and crew will shout about postponing elections - that will elicit a revolution against them - I hope they are smart enough to know that 20,000 aspirants are waiting for 2022, kenyans are also angry and hungry, to punish and promote leaders...and election must be held.

If that fail - the only viable option - is for them to deny Ruto first round win - by trying to splinter the votes

I dont see how they will unite in NASA like coalition. Just too much bad blood btw the 5 opposition Amigos.

The problem is Ruto as he become unassailable is likely to attract the lower rungs of NASA - I think Wetangula will likely be first to join Hustler Nation


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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2021, 05:23:44 PM »
Tongue in the cheek article

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2021, 06:56:32 PM »
Tongue in the cheek article

Exactly. Pundit doesn't get that :D He is doing cartwheels aliposoma headline. I bet you didn't read this damning bit in the article:



This is the story of Mr Ruto. At the height of his power during the Moi-Kanu regime, Mr Ruto was the anti-thesis of democracy.



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Leopards don't change their colors indeed! Personally I don't think he wins for all of RAO's self inflicted damage. We are headed for a second round, and we know who will prevail there. For now, let him bask in the fake adulation and love from the corrupt unprincipled Kenyan tribal elites and sycophantic followers. Basic facts won't change. 
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2021, 07:29:05 PM »
You think I sit waiting for Mutua broken crystal ball to tell me who will win when I can predict to high precision that kind of stuff? I actually answered Mutua self-consolation that there is something Anti-Ruto forces can do- well there isn't.

This battle start and ends in Mt kenya. Once Mt kenya accepted Ruto - it is over. Ruto has dealt with Uhuru and crew in politics they never imagined possible. He has gone directly to Mt kenya and conquered it - not just part of it - but it appears the whole of it. Huge stuff. And thanks to his win-win strategy - he has kept Non-GEMA intact outside Luo Nyanza maybe :)

Now what remain really is bringing the cows home. The major battle have been won.

Now it just to look at the desperate enemy following the cow being driven home. Second round - there is still a small window for that - but it's fast closing. Remember Jubilee won with 55 percent - and Ruto can improve that - to 63 percent - crazy stuff - super majority.

Tongue in the cheek article

Exactly. Pundit doesn't get that :D He is doing cartwheels aliposoma headline. I bet you didn't read this damning bit in the article:



This is the story of Mr Ruto. At the height of his power during the Moi-Kanu regime, Mr Ruto was the anti-thesis of democracy.



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Leopards don't change their colors indeed! Personally I don't think he wins for all of RAO's self inflicted damage. We are headed for a second round, and we know who will prevail there. For now, let him bask in the fake adulation and love from the corrupt unprincipled Kenyan tribal elites and sycophantic followers. Basic facts won't change. 

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2021, 10:00:07 PM »
Most of Raila backers are coming to terms with a Ruto Presidency.
Its also evident that they believe Railas association with Uhuru was the undoing.
Majority never supported the Hamdshake nor BBI. The likes of Mutua also think Raila is takimg wrong advice from the likes of Atwoli and Murathe.
So dissapointed they are that some jumped ship the likes of David Ndii et all.
2022 will be a landslide for Ruto like none other.

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2021, 11:23:40 PM »
You think I sit waiting for Mutua broken crystal ball to tell me who will win when I can predict to high precision that kind of stuff? I actually answered Mutua self-consolation that there is something Anti-Ruto forces can do- well there isn't.

This battle start and ends in Mt kenya. Once Mt kenya accepted Ruto - it is over. Ruto has dealt with Uhuru and crew in politics they never imagined possible. He has gone directly to Mt kenya and conquered it - not just part of it - but it appears the whole of it. Huge stuff. And thanks to his win-win strategy - he has kept Non-GEMA intact outside Luo Nyanza maybe :)

Now what remain really is bringing the cows home. The major battle have been won.

Now it just to look at the desperate enemy following the cow being driven home. Second round - there is still a small window for that - but it's fast closing. Remember Jubilee won with 55 percent - and Ruto can improve that - to 63 percent - crazy stuff - super majority.

I disagree.

1. Mt Kenya is not as critical as you think considering they have to vote for an outsider, split electorate, many disillusioned will sit it out.

2. It very premature to bank Mt Kenya for the man who orchestrated PEV in the Rift, there is still bad blood and recrimination on both sides. It is a cagey affair.

I call this basic facts. Neither RAO nor Luto can totally be assured of Gema votes. This election will be decided by non Gema, that is my prediction.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2021, 12:19:27 AM »
Ati? Rao assured of votes? Mt kenya wapi?
You need to understand the Ruto wave in Mt kenya - to it's root - so you know how deep it is. It very deep - that is why one by one - folks are abandoning Uhuru and running to Ruto - one year to election. Moi was abandoned few months to election - this one is happening more than a year - because the people resolution on this issues is very LOUD AND CLEAR.

There are two things Mt Kenya hate now 1) Raila 2) their elite led by Uhuru;

There has always been class divide in mt kenya - btw half and half-nots - started way back in civil war called Mau Mau when Mzungu kicked out poor kikuyus from farms in rift valley and brought in tractors - and POWs from World War 2 - around 1950s - that sparked Mau Mau in 1952 - as peasant came back from RV to find no land back home in central - having been given to chiefs and their headmen by same Mzungu - and  Mt kenya spent a lot of time killing each other than killing the Brits. After Uhuru - Jomo managed to keep the half-nots happy by shipping them back to rift valley. The 92/2007 war saw many of them again kicked back - and there were attempts in 90s to re-create MauMau in Mungiki.

Then Uhuru made peace - everyone was happy - finally kikuyus esp would live happly with Kalenjin - everyone was happy until handshake.Not only did Uhuru embrace their sworn enemy - and he was starting war with Kalenjin - and therefore threatening their millions. This one is unsaid.

Ruto being a great propagandist ( KANU, ODM, ICC name it - Ruto can sell it) - realized this - and started the hustler nation - by showing Mt kenya majority poor - their struggle were his struggle.

I can tell you for free - come 2022 - very few if any of Mt Kenya elite will make it back. People will elect real hustlers. Unheard of.

Mt Kenya poor majority are supporting Ruto - the educated elite are guys who are maybe unsure - but when they see Raila - they get realize they are in a wall.

Mt kenya elite being too smart for themselves...by embracing Raila....they removed the external enemy that was keeping the class divide fissure underground...now it out and bubbling. The poor hustlers of Mt kenya have smelt blood against entrenched GEMA elite...and Ruto is assuring them of victory.

The battle is in Mt kenya. Elsewhere Ruto and Raila and rest have their votes. Ruto starts strong in Kamatus+pastoralist. Raila start strong in Luo+possibly Gusii and coast. Kalonzo in Ukambani. MaDVD in Maragoli. Weta in Bukusu.

Whoever wins Mt kenya is the next PORK. Nothing more. Nothing less.


I disagree.

1. Mt Kenya is not as critical as you think considering they have to vote for an outsider, split electorate, many disillusioned will sit it out.

2. It very premature to bank Mt Kenya for the man who orchestrated PEV in the Rift, there is still bad blood and recrimination on both sides. It is a cagey affair.

I call this basic facts. Neither RAO nor Luto can totally be assured of Gema votes. This election will be decided by non Gema, that is my prediction.

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2021, 12:43:49 PM »
Ruto vs Raila fate rests with BBI. The brazen CJ Koome rigging - and Odunga, Ngugi rejection - showed Uhuru hand viz BBI and 2022.

1. If BBI is resurrected as I expect - it will be Dec by the time SCORK appeal is done. BBI of course will be election combo due to tight timelines. BBI yes lineup vs Ruto no is no-brainer.

With BBI your watermelon has no chance against Raila.

2. BBI is killed off by SCORK.. Ruto has better chance. Bitter Raila likely to tosha kati kati lineup to finish him. If they pick say PK-Mdvd... Ruto could settle for Kalonzo.

I don't get what is the source of your premature celebration. Ruto Jubilee "mean machine" was long decapitated by Raila handshake. Ruto had 99% Gema - now seem about 50%. Raila the bogeyman picks huge chunk easy peasy without setting foot there... ever.

How is Ruto doing in non-Gema vs Raila? NASA kingpins have locked him out. Literally.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2021, 12:46:03 PM »
 :D :D the guys looked at the article and missed all the flowery adjectives. All they saw is Ruto our 5th president. Talk of psycophansy. Kenya under Ruto would be Soddom & Gomorrah.

Tongue in the cheek article

Exactly. Pundit doesn't get that :D He is doing cartwheels aliposoma headline. I bet you didn't read this damning bit in the article:



This is the story of Mr Ruto. At the height of his power during the Moi-Kanu regime, Mr Ruto was the anti-thesis of democracy.



.

Leopards don't change their colors indeed! Personally I don't think he wins for all of RAO's self inflicted damage. We are headed for a second round, and we know who will prevail there. For now, let him bask in the fake adulation and love from the corrupt unprincipled Kenyan tribal elites and sycophantic followers. Basic facts won't change.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2021, 01:36:15 PM »
There was a time when ufool misinterpreted ruto's relay strategy, indicating that ruto was running in the opposite direction instead of waiting for the baton.

This was quite off tangent, as ruto never waited for the baton focusing on the prize and likes of ODM diehards like mutua are appreciating the genius dash off is concrete.

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2021, 01:44:38 PM »
gout - how is Ruto leading? Avoid "relay" and such generalities. Raila's problem is he needs BBI to string along NASA plus Uhuru Kieleweke poodles.

Ruto has exhausted his anti-Raila, dynasty, bottom-up, wheelbarrow and handouts 24-7 and only half Kikuyus have embraced him. He has failed to make headway in Kamba, Luhya, Gusii. Coast only a handful of Mwashetani have warmed up to him.

Don't be a dimwit wishful thinker like Prof Makau. Do you get why RV Pundit has hidden his passionate MOAS despite running helter skelter ati President Ruto? The numbers don't add up - it's spin time.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2021, 01:44:47 PM »
Ruto has run while indicted by ICC for worse crimes possible; mass rape, murder and evictions; and he won - by turning it around - so much Raila would wish he was also under ICC. Mutua has E in propaganda.

If anybody intend to beat Ruto - sahau propaganda - the only way is for opposition to really UNITE - and gang up against WSR. And that may not be enough considering Ruto has taken GEMA yote.

Otherwise Ruto is the greatest political propagandist kenya has ever seen. Ruto is capable of selling anything - including your own mother to yourself.
 
Ruto can turn 360 and say Hustler Nation is nonsense and many will believe it...like he did in 2010...when he turned 360 on the Katiba..and got 31% support.

:D :D the guys looked at the article and missed all the flowery adjectives. All they saw is Ruto our 5th president. Talk of psycophansy. Kenya under Ruto would be Soddom & Gomorrah.

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2021, 01:47:24 PM »
Start to think Post-BBI - and Mutua with his law degree - knows a dead case when a layman can see - BBI is dead as dodo.Orengo spend most of the court session with his head buried in shame or engaged in small talk with Raila poor lawyer Mwangi. Their BBI pet project was dead. DEAD. So dead a rongo farmer had easy time demolishing it.

Now if Raila best and only bet is BBI. Then Ruto is indeed the Acting PORK. Considering Uhuru is mostly drunk.

gout - how is Ruto leading? Avoid "relay" and such generalities. Raila's problem is he needs BBI to string along NASA plus Uhuru Kieleweke poodles.

Ruto has exhausted his anti-Raila, dynasty, bottom-up, wheelbarrow and handouts 24-7 and only half Kikuyus have embraced him. He has failed to make headway in Kamba, Luhya, Gusii. Coast only a handful of Mwashetani have warmed up to him.

Don't be a dimwit wishful thinker like Prof Makau.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2021, 01:56:22 PM »
I agree BBI remains big wildcard. You note none of the NASA crew will be caught dead with Ruto - including Weta, Oparanya, Mvurya, Mutua. They are angling for BBI positions and will not ruin their chances.

BBI is coming back and Ruto does not stand a chance against Raila NARC 2 lineup.

The other stories about Ruto magic -- this same Ruto was  co-president 5 years and looted half the treasury. The man left you a mountain of debt. I laugh when I read how the economy will grow at 10% - you must mean your personal networth. I think you would do very well under Ruto corrupt regime - that is why you are on my suicide watch as senile Baba outfox your fake genius.

Ruto has run while indicted by ICC for worse crimes possible; mass rape, murder and evictions; and he won - by turning it around - so much Raila would wish he was also under ICC. Mutua has E in propaganda.

If anybody intend to beat Ruto - sahau propaganda - the only way is for opposition to really UNITE - and gang up against WSR.

Otherwise Ruto is the greatest political propagandist kenya has ever seen.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2021, 02:01:43 PM »
Eti BBI is coming back - look like you need that suicide watch more than anybody else.

There are two phases in Ruto political journey in few years.

First he was the man to beat - and then when he fell out with Uhuru and all the works - Uhuru political stock rose through the roof because he was now the man everyone wanted to court - he was a free agent from Ruto - BBI crew got an opening and ganged up. Ruto also has made it clear from day one that he will go with Kikuyu DPORK.

Mistake no 1 - they didn't finish Ruto. They waited for BBI to finish Ruto :)

Now Ruto has clearly upstage Uhuru in Mt Kenya - and is now back to the man to beat. BBI is dead or dying.

Now I expect the likes of Weta to run to Ruto faster than you can dream about BBI 5.0

I don't expect Kaloi or maDVD or Raila to join Ruto - because Kikuyu Mwangi Kiunjuri has already taken DPORK - the rest are details.

Once Mt kenya are all in from the front door (UDA) - starting from next week - when Kiambaa dust settle - Ruto will not need any alliance.

Ruto will keep things tight until June 10th 2021 when he will unveil Kikuyu DPORK - and then Raila will have two months to do the usual KABILA MBILI :) plus nonsense like TIBIM TIALALA and Ruto will respond with Dynasties versus Hustlers. By then election would already have been decided.

I agree BBI remains big wildcard. You note none of the NASA crew will be caught dead with Ruto - including Weta, Oparanya, Mvurya, Mutua. They are angling for BBI positions and will not ruin their chances.

BBI is coming back and Ruto does not stand a chance against Raila NARC 2 lineup.

The other stories about Ruto magic -- this same Ruto was  co-president 5 years and looted half the treasury. The man left you a mountain of debt. I laugh when I read how the economy will grow at 10% - you must mean your personal networth. I think you would do very well under Ruto corrupt regime - that is why you are on my suicide watch as senile Baba outfox your fake genius.


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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2021, 02:16:16 PM »
You overrate Ruto. I can forgive idiots like Njuri and Noway but you know better. Raila does not bother with propaganda such as hustler vs dynasty - because he knows it come down to tribe. Not class. Ruto has run anti-Uhuru propaganda - against a lameduck retiring drunkard - and still max at half Gema. In Kamba and non-Gema anti-dynasty or anti-Uhuru is useless because they have their own tribal gods.

So Raila simply needs BBI or such NARC carrot - to string NASA and Kieleweke. Kalonzo, Mdvd and Mvuryas need something to sell their folks - how they will be DPM or CS under Raila - and meantime sneak back as MP.

What does Ruto have besides bottom-up? How does this appeal to say Luhya? It only work in orphaned Gema - and if Raila gets BBI back on track you will have another thing coming. Imagine if he prop say PK as PM - and all the goodies for Gema.

No, Pundit, Ruto is nowhwere near victory. Raila Odinga has better strategy and odds than him. He has stolen the incumbent, the machinery, the tribal chiefs and is seriously contending the hitherto Ruto-Jubilee Mt Kenya turf.

Eti BBI is coming back - look like you need that suicide watch more than anybody else.

There are two phases in Ruto political journey in few years.

First he was the man to beat - and then when he fell out with Uhuru and all the works - Uhuru political stock rose through the roof because he was now the man everyone wanted to court - he was a free agent from Ruto - BBI crew got an opening and ganged up.

Mistake no 1 - they didn't finish Ruto. They waited for BBI to finish Ruto :)

Now Ruto has clearly upstage Uhuru in Mt Kenya - and is now back to the man to beat. BBI is dead or dying.

Now I expect the likes of Weta to run to Ruto faster than you can dream about BBI 5.0.
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2021, 02:32:17 PM »
Why is Ruto appointing Kikuyu DPORK; once you answer that; you realize you're not very smart. Hustler Nation is mostly meant for GEMA. If tribes was not important - Ruto would pick anyone else including a Meru to be DPORK - but 50-50 deal with GEMA remain.

Ruto knows once he has Mt Kenya - he is good as PORK. GEMA will get 50 percent bila maneno. Ruto will split his 50% with anyone else.

Basically once he has retained Jubilee sure bet coalition - what else is there to debate.

For the few votes that will disappear - he will bring in new places like MATUSA and Coast.

Western and the likes are just top up - can't bring even 1% of the national vote -to Ruto basket.

Ruto path to victory is simple. RV has 25%. Knock that out of the park - and you're 50% on the way. Move to Central/Nairobi/Eastern. Close the deal.

Then rest is just rigging margin proofing.

Remember the target is 50%.

As for Raila - NASA if he manages to re-unite (:) - they are now officially divorcing :) - doesn't make sense why they are doing that - will as always max out at 43-45% or even worse.

As for Mvurya and the rest.

You'll be shocked by how many people support Ruto but are hidding to avoid Uhuru and his boys harrassment.

By December all of them will emerge from woodwork...and tell Uhuru to go f. himself up with KRA/CID/NIS/DCI

You overrate Ruto. I can forgive idiots like Njuri and Noway but you know better. Raila does not bother with propaganda such as hustler vs dynasty - because he knows it come down to tribe. Not class. Ruto has run anti-Uhuru propaganda - against a lameduck retiring drunkard - and still max at half Gema. In Kamba and non-Gema anti-dynasty or anti-Uhuru is useless because they have their own tribal gods.

So Raila simply needs BBI or such NARC carrot - to string NASA and Kieleweke. Kalonzo, Mdvd and Mvuryas need something to sell their folks - how they will be DPM or CS under Raila - and meantime sneak back as MP.

What does Ruto have besides bottom-up? How does this appeal to say Luhya? It only work in orphaned Gema - and if Raila gets BBI back on track you will have another thing coming. Imagine if he prop say PK as PM - and all the goodies for Gema.

No, Pundit, Ruto is nowhwere near victory. Raila Odinga has better strategy and odds than him. He has stolen the incumbent, the machinery, the tribal chiefs and is seriously contending the hitherto Ruto-Jubilee Mt Kenya turf.

Eti BBI is coming back - look like you need that suicide watch more than anybody else.

There are two phases in Ruto political journey in few years.

First he was the man to beat - and then when he fell out with Uhuru and all the works - Uhuru political stock rose through the roof because he was now the man everyone wanted to court - he was a free agent from Ruto - BBI crew got an opening and ganged up.

Mistake no 1 - they didn't finish Ruto. They waited for BBI to finish Ruto :)

Now Ruto has clearly upstage Uhuru in Mt Kenya - and is now back to the man to beat. BBI is dead or dying.

Now I expect the likes of Weta to run to Ruto faster than you can dream about BBI 5.0.

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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2021, 02:58:00 PM »
Handshake lineup is pegged on BBI fate. Seems we have to wait till end of August then SCORK ruling for that. It basically stops the flowergirls and Mvuryas from going to Ruto as they angle for mkia.

Ruto needs to use the BBI appeal window to cement Gema. If CoA resurrect BBI in August - new problems for Ruto all over. I see BBI-election combo next year.

Today, without BBI - Ruto does not have Jubilee numbers. They had just 54% - with 99% RVGema - and having encroached NASA all over - MPs in Kamba, Luhya, Mvuryas. I am not convinced there are significant Ruto backers outside Mt Keny afraid of Uhuru. Uhuru focused on Mt Kenya to deny Ruto early lead and bragging rights. Mutuas, Kingis, etc simply see nothing for them under Ruto. Ogopa Raila trojan - and keep your fingers crossed that BBI stay dead. Cause not only does it lineup NASA perfectly - it has many carrots for eveyone - MCA become CEC, retiring governors lifeline, MPs become CS, gender problem solved, name it.

I acknowledge Ruto has Kiunjuri or Kuria for DPORK to deal with tribe. It means he knows the hutler vs dynasty limit. But equally for you Uhuru has rigged in CJ Koome and rejected Odungas. He does not intend to let go of BBI nor let Ruto into power.

If BBI resurrects - you can forget about any mass defections to UDA in Mt Kenya - while the opposite will happen as Handshake lineup solidifies.

The reality is not rosy at all.

Why is Ruto appointing Kikuyu DPORK; once you answer that; you realize you're not very smart. Hustler Nation is mostly meant for GEMA. If tribes was not important - Ruto would pick anyone else including a Meru to be DPORK - but 50-50 deal with GEMA remain.

Ruto knows once he has Mt Kenya - he is good as PORK. GEMA will get 50 percent bila maneno. Ruto will split his 50% with anyone else.

Basically once he has retained Jubilee sure bet coalition - what else is there to debate.

For the few votes that will disappear - he will bring in new places like MATUSA and Coast.

Western and the likes are just top up - can't bring even 1% of the national vote -to Ruto basket.

Ruto path to victory is simple. RV has 25%. Knock that out of the park - and you're 50% on the way. Move to Central/Nairobi/Eastern. Close the deal.

Then rest is just rigging margin proofing.

Remember the target is 50%.

As for Raila - NASA if he manages to re-unite (:) - they are now officially divorcing :) - doesn't make sense why they are doing that - will as always max out at 43-45% or even worse.

As for Mvurya and the rest.

You'll be shocked by how many people support Ruto but are hidding to avoid Uhuru and his boys harrassment.

By December all of them will emerge from woodwork...and tell Uhuru to go f. himself up with KRA/CID/NIS/DCI
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Re: Ruto is our Next President!: Makau Mutua
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2021, 03:04:40 PM »
1) NASA is divorcing as we speak.
2) OKA want to force Raila to pick one of them.
3) GEMA do not want Raila at all
4) CJ does NOT decide cases - she is one of 7 judges of Supreme Court.

As for BBI - tough luck - definitely worth appealing - so this can be settled with finality - that 2010 progressive constitution can never messed up again.

I really want this BBI nonsense to go - so Ruto is reigned on - before he become PORK - coz Ruto is very dangerous politician :)


Handshake lineup is pegged on BBI fate. Seems we have to wait till end of August then SCORK ruling for that. It basically stops the flowergirls and Mvuryas from going to Ruto as they angle for mkia.

Ruto needs to use the BBI appeal window to cement Gema. If CoA resurrect BBI in August - new problems for Ruto all over. I see BBI-election combo next year.

Today, without BBI - Ruto does not have Jubilee numbers. They had just 54% - with 99% RVGema - and having encroached NASA all over - MPs in Kamba, Luhya, Mvuryas. I am not convinced there are significant Ruto backers outside Mt Keny afraid of Uhuru. Uhuru focused on Mt Kenya to deny Ruto early lead and bragging rights. Mutuas, Kingis, etc simply see nothing for them under Ruto. Ogopa Raila trojan - and keep your fingers crossed that BBI stay dead. Cause not only does it lineup NASA perfectly - it has many carrots for eveyone - MCA become CEC, retiring governors lifeline, MPs become CS, gender problem solved, name it.

I acknowledge Ruto has Kiunjuri or Kuria for DPORK to deal with tribe. It means he knows the hutler vs dynasty limit. But equally for you Uhuru has rigged in CJ Koome and rejected Odungas. He does not intend to let go of BBI nor let Ruto into power.

If BBI resurrects - you can forget about any mass defections to UDA in Mt Kenya - while the opposite will happen as Handshake lineup solidifies.

The reality is not rosy at all.

Why is Ruto appointing Kikuyu DPORK; once you answer that; you realize you're not very smart. Hustler Nation is mostly meant for GEMA. If tribes was not important - Ruto would pick anyone else including a Meru to be DPORK - but 50-50 deal with GEMA remain.

Ruto knows once he has Mt Kenya - he is good as PORK. GEMA will get 50 percent bila maneno. Ruto will split his 50% with anyone else.

Basically once he has retained Jubilee sure bet coalition - what else is there to debate.

For the few votes that will disappear - he will bring in new places like MATUSA and Coast.

Western and the likes are just top up - can't bring even 1% of the national vote -to Ruto basket.

Ruto path to victory is simple. RV has 25%. Knock that out of the park - and you're 50% on the way. Move to Central/Nairobi/Eastern. Close the deal.

Then rest is just rigging margin proofing.

Remember the target is 50%.

As for Raila - NASA if he manages to re-unite (:) - they are now officially divorcing :) - doesn't make sense why they are doing that - will as always max out at 43-45% or even worse.

As for Mvurya and the rest.

You'll be shocked by how many people support Ruto but are hidding to avoid Uhuru and his boys harrassment.

By December all of them will emerge from woodwork...and tell Uhuru to go f. himself up with KRA/CID/NIS/DCI