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One hopes this can be drawn straight from INKE - Kenyatta empire.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/big-win-for-miguna-miguna-in-case-over-deportation-3427696

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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2021, 09:56:33 AM »
My prayer is that somebody goes to court again  to seek orders that Matiangi personally foot the bill. The state or taxpayers can't pay for illegalities committed by mandarins.

There are 2 to 3 precedents on this matter first at the high court and confirmed by the court of appeal. I think the demand to show the mandarin knew their acts were unlawful but ignored is easy to prove in Matiangi case.
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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2021, 12:05:27 PM »
Miguna will eventually win in the end even if it takes 30 years.
The courts have ruled on his side and the law of course is on his side. The impunity being demonstrated by Kenyan officials is of the highest level. These fellows just do not care and disobey court orders at will just like their boss.
A government official cannot decide which court orders he is to obey or not. The day somone like Kibicho or the hawkish Matiang'i will be frog matched to Kamiti is the day we will see real changes in Kenya.

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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2021, 02:07:42 PM »
The best thing is for people to wait until they get fired or fall in favour - then sue them on their individual capacity. That will be a lesson that justice can be delayed but not denied.

This will happen if judiciary remain independent.

Miguna will eventually win in the end even if it takes 30 years.
The courts have ruled on his side and the law of course is on his side. The impunity being demonstrated by Kenyan officials is of the highest level. These fellows just do not care and disobey court orders at will just like their boss.
A government official cannot decide which court orders he is to obey or not. The day somone like Kibicho or the hawkish Matiang'i will be frog matched to Kamiti is the day we will see real changes in Kenya.

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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2021, 05:04:25 PM »
I am waiting to see this miracle happen. Orders can only be enforced by sirkal - and no PORK will hang the predecessors for obvious reason. Try to remain dispassionate despite your disdain for Uhuru. How many people have Jomo, Moi, Kibaki paid - for torture, detention and such grievious offences? Uhuru is an angel by comparison.

The best thing is for people to wait until they get fired or fall in favour - then sue them on their individual capacity. That will be a lesson that justice can be delayed but not denied.

This will happen if judiciary remain independent.

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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2021, 05:30:25 PM »
Migina will be waiting for a while - have they paid Matiba yet? For torture


Won't pay, can't pay: State owes Engineer Litondo Sh600m for 37 years
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/money-careers/article/2001412798/wont-pay-cant-pay-engineer-litondo-not-paid-sh600m-37-years-later
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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2021, 05:48:35 PM »
Only a few enjoy that kind of privilege's - maybe former PORK - but rest like Matiangi or Rotich - normal always end up with court cases. We have to put a stop to executive disobeying court orders.

If we focus on their pockets - we fix the problem.

Most kenyans politician and technocrats are really ever interested in MONEY.

If the court orders - say the Asset Recovery Commission - to seize Uhuru properties - how will they refuse?

I am waiting to see this miracle happen. Orders can only be enforced by sirkal - and no PORK will hang the predecessors for obvious reason. Try to remain dispassionate despite your disdain for Uhuru. How many people have Jomo, Moi, Kibaki paid - for torture, detention and such grievious offences? Uhuru is an angel by comparison.

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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2021, 06:13:10 PM »
Yes Matiang'i or Mutyambai can be hanged in FUTURE. As for Uhuru and other PORKs - dream on. IFF (caps) court orders ARA to seize Moi money right now - Uhuru will block them. In 2023 Raila or Ruto or whoever will equally shield Uhuru. Wake us up when Kenyatta, Moi, Kibaki assets get seized.

Even here Joe Biden will not touch Trump - he just refused to form a commission to investigate Trump for Capitol riots in Jan. He said that is cops job.

Only a few enjoy that kind of privilege's - maybe former PORK - but rest like Matiangi or Rotich - normal always end up with court cases. We have to put a stop to executive disobeying court orders.

If we focus on their pockets - we fix the problem.

Most kenyans politician and technocrats are really ever interested in MONEY.

If the court orders - say the Asset Recovery Commission - to seize Uhuru properties - how will they refuse?
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Re: Look like Miguna Miguna will eventually get big cheque from gov
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2021, 06:52:00 PM »
Only if he is popular - but Uhuru right now - Kikuyus would hang him themselves. In any case ARA cannot protect him. He'd have to run to court - and try get injunction.

Judiciary if they become creative like Mumbi normally is - can do damage.

However Mumbi Ngungi messed up in governors - otherwise, she has creatively dealt with impunity before. That is why that Albino is still a very good judge.

Yes Matiang'i or Mutyambai can be hanged in FUTURE. As for Uhuru and other PORKs - dream on. IFF (caps) court orders ARA to seize Moi money right now - Uhuru will block them. In 2023 Raila or Ruto or whoever will equally shield Uhuru. Wake us up when Kenyatta, Moi, Kibaki assets get seized.

Even here Joe Biden will not touch Trump - he just refused to form a commission to investigate Trump for Capitol riots in Jan. He said that is cops job.

Only a few enjoy that kind of privilege's - maybe former PORK - but rest like Matiangi or Rotich - normal always end up with court cases. We have to put a stop to executive disobeying court orders.

If we focus on their pockets - we fix the problem.

Most kenyans politician and technocrats are really ever interested in MONEY.

If the court orders - say the Asset Recovery Commission - to seize Uhuru properties - how will they refuse?