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Offline KenyanPlato

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Kalembe Ndile
« on: June 03, 2021, 12:01:02 AM »
He was a wise and colorful politiician. Rest in peace Kalembe.

My dad loved Kalembe. To him he was a common sense african leader. Mwana mwireri

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2021, 12:45:46 AM »
This is why we should avoid the degree requirement nonsense; we need all sort of leaders; with all sort of talents;and background; Kalembe never went to school but was street smart.

The more diverse; the better; the representation;

Otherwise restricting leadership to just 2% of Kenyans with a university degrees is enacting China meritocracy.

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2021, 02:35:37 AM »
This is why we should avoid the degree requirement nonsense; we need all sort of leaders; with all sort of talents;and background; Kalembe never went to school but was street smart.

The more diverse; the better; the representation;

Otherwise restricting leadership to just 2% of Kenyans with a university degrees is enacting China meritocracy.

You were praising Chinese leaders having PHD's, what happened?
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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2021, 05:15:47 AM »
We should copy China except for its democracy

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2021, 06:01:31 AM »
We should copy China except for its democracy

China is not worthy of emulation even on purely economic terms, very inefficient state run economy, lots of debt, poor market signaling, , overly dependent on exports, you can go on and on. That is why the CCP keeps talking about rebalancing the economy. It will never happen, for certain things a free society is a prerequisite, if you are locking up doctors who alert the world to emerging diseases how are you going to be medicine powerhouse, where is China Pfizer?
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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2021, 06:42:58 AM »
Try running 1.5B country and come to lecture us about failed china democracy. China economic front is topnotch. China has lifted nearly a billion now out of poverty. It's transformed from bicyle ridding rice farming country to almost developed country in a generation or two. It breathe taking. You know we will die without seeing kenya achieve that.
We should copy China except for its democracy

China is not worthy of emulation even on purely economic terms, very inefficient state run economy, lots of debt, poor market signaling, , overly dependent on exports, you can go on and on. That is why the CCP keeps talking about rebalancing the economy. It will never happen, for certain things a free society is a prerequisite, if you are locking up doctors who alert the world to emerging diseases how are you going to be medicine powerhouse, where is China Pfizer?

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2021, 08:13:51 AM »
You people are funny you claim Chinas success but delink the democracy as part of success

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2021, 08:23:03 AM »
Try running 1.5B country and come to lecture us about failed china democracy. China economic front is topnotch. China has lifted nearly a billion now out of poverty. It's transformed from bicyle ridding rice farming country to almost developed country in a generation or two. It breathe taking. You know we will die without seeing kenya achieve that.

Had the nationalists won, China would have developed long time ago, they would be on par with Japan and South Korea, now they are competing with India and Bangladesh for low end manufacturing and outsourcing jobs. Don't give the CCP credit for correcting their mistakes half a century late. They put those peasants into poverty in the first place. That is all I'm saying.

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 08:39:31 AM »

China is in the big league , certainly not competing with Japan and South Korea. One of the reasons we dont take you seriously

Try running 1.5B country and come to lecture us about failed china democracy. China economic front is topnotch. China has lifted nearly a billion now out of poverty. It's transformed from bicyle ridding rice farming country to almost developed country in a generation or two. It breathe taking. You know we will die without seeing kenya achieve that.

Had the nationalists won, China would have developed long time ago, they would be on par with Japan and South Korea, now they are competing with India and Bangladesh for low end manufacturing and outsourcing jobs. Don't give the CCP credit for correcting their mistakes half a century late. They put those peasants into poverty in the first place. That is all I'm saying.

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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2021, 12:16:50 PM »
You live in a time wrap. This kind of anti-Chinese propaganda were fodder for the media then.
Had the nationalists won, China would have developed long time ago, they would be on par with Japan and South Korea, now they are competing with India and Bangladesh for low end manufacturing and outsourcing jobs. Don't give the CCP credit for correcting their mistakes half a century late. They put those peasants into poverty in the first place. That is all I'm saying.



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Re: Kalembe Ndile
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2021, 04:51:35 PM »
Such a good progression from MCA, Makueni Municipal Council sijui Mavoko county Council chairman, MP.. Tip tip leader.

Life is for the living though the debauchery kills when you have stable income sources as he had having been the owner of several properties.

Attaining some balance or moderation when you come from poverty is quite a challenge. The nonsense that poverty is a teacher hold no water.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine