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China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« on: May 31, 2021, 03:58:14 PM »
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2021-05-31-three-child-policy-china-lifts-cap-on-births-in-major-policy-shift/

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2021, 05:02:57 PM »
China, usa and India are in a demographic death spiral.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2021, 05:12:34 PM »
India? What about Europe?

China, usa and India are in a demographic death spiral.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2021, 06:02:23 PM »
India? What about Europe?

China, usa and India are in a demographic death spiral.
Europe too..but they are allowing asians, africans and arabs to fill the void

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2021, 06:02:46 PM »
India? What about Europe?

China, usa and India are in a demographic death spiral.
Yes india is again fast

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2021, 06:47:26 PM »
That is why maltusian nonsense are laughable

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2021, 06:55:02 PM »
Malthusian nonsense keeps cropping up through 'Africa is overpopulated' bullcrap.
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2021, 07:02:06 PM »
That is why all nonsense about climate change and maltusian nonsense  don't make sense.
China, usa and India are in a demographic death spiral.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2021, 07:02:51 PM »
Precisely. The world has its own natural ways of self-regulating including new diseases, wars and such. Humans who can barely understand the universe want to baby the universe. It some cheek. There possibly billions of billions of universes :) Nobody knows how big our infinity really is.
Malthusian nonsense keeps cropping up through 'Africa is overpopulated' bullcrap.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 05:03:44 AM »
That is why maltusian nonsense are laughable

Developed countries have sorted out their reproductive and population issues, they are reaping its benefits, its Sub Saharan Africa where Malthusian realities are being felt. Cut your coat according to your size.
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2021, 06:54:29 AM »
Malthusian nonsense keeps cropping up through 'Africa is overpopulated' bullcrap.

Strawman

Unsustainable rate of population growth is Africa's problem. Apart from the arid and semiarid regions Africa is densely populated
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2021, 09:43:58 AM »
Exactly. Africa is not overpopulated, but the rate of growth is the problem. Look at Kenya today, despite of better education many school and college leavers cannot find a job.

Strawman

Unsustainable rate of population growth is Africa's problem. Apart from the arid and semiarid regions Africa is densely populated

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2021, 10:39:22 AM »
Yes the rate of growth is a problem; not the number of people; Africa and earth is far from being overpopulated.
The rate of growth - meaning the number of kids per person - and that will come down - eventually.
Having less and well-spaced kids - make all economic senses - but it's not because the earth has some finite carrying capacity for humans - far from it -

Exactly. Africa is not overpopulated, but the rate of growth is the problem. Look at Kenya today, despite of better education many school and college leavers cannot find a job.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 05:31:01 PM »
China will have to calm down and accept/encourage immigration. Already they started this for expats with Thousand Talents - equivalent of US O-1 visa for talented folks. Japan is facing the music trying to attract Phillipinos as headcount shrink. Russia has same problem. The Chinese look keen to adapt US-style discriminatory expat visa. If you are scientist they literally pay for your relocation and starting bonus to move and work there.
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2021, 05:48:57 PM »
China will have to calm down and accept/encourage immigration. Already they started this for expats with Thousand Talents - equivalent of US O-1 visa for talented folks. Japan is facing the music trying to attract Phillipinos as headcount shrink. Russia has same problem. The Chinese look keen to adapt US-style discriminatory expat visa. If you are scientist they literally pay for your relocation and starting bonus to move and work there.
Xi is doing the opposite. He has forced a lot of americans to self deport or move to vietnam. China problem is deep and will be solved by someone more progressive and not by Xi

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2021, 07:13:25 PM »
China will have to calm down and accept/encourage immigration. Already they started this for expats with Thousand Talents - equivalent of US O-1 visa for talented folks. Japan is facing the music trying to attract Phillipinos as headcount shrink. Russia has same problem. The Chinese look keen to adapt US-style discriminatory expat visa. If you are scientist they literally pay for your relocation and starting bonus to move and work there.
Xi is doing the opposite. He has forced a lot of americans to self deport or move to vietnam. China problem is deep and will be solved by someone more progressive and not by Xi

China has lost its sheen. Double digit growth had blinded gullible people to think an authoritarian country as the second America. Racism, pollution, corruption it has all. Expats are having second doubts because China will debrief them and steal their Intellectual Property. 
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2021, 11:43:42 PM »
Arcadian Joker don't be so fast to write off China. Demographics have already been effectively managed by Europe, US, Canada, etc, not rocket science. The historic growth the CCP has engineered is so incredible... 600m folks empowered in a generation sio mchezo. They already had demographics in their sights before entrenching Xi in the 2015 plenary. I don't see Xi as a Putin-like autocrat but a penultimate visionary. These people know what they are doing I won't be quick with kneejerks.

@Njamba Thousand Talents is a real program akin to US O-1 expat visa. I know PhDs who have shipped there. Americans are being hounded as tit-for-tat of Trump hostilities. China doesn't and shouldn't turn the other cheek to western bullying.
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2021, 06:20:33 AM »
Arcadian Joker don't be so fast to write off China. Demographics have already been effectively managed by Europe, US, Canada, etc, not rocket science. The historic growth the CCP has engineered is so incredible... 600m folks empowered in a generation sio mchezo. They already had demographics in their sights before entrenching Xi in the 2015 plenary. I don't see Xi as a Putin-like autocrat but a penultimate visionary. These people know what they are doing I won't be quick with kneejerks.

@Njamba Thousand Talents is a real program akin to US O-1 expat visa. I know PhDs who have shipped there. Americans are being hounded as tit-for-tat of Trump hostilities. China doesn't and shouldn't turn the other cheek to western bullying.
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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2021, 08:12:27 AM »
1) The average Chinese leader has a Phd and IQ that is off charts.
2)  China are filling more patent than anyone else now. How can they now be innovative when US is blocking Huawei from being far ahead.
3)  Quit this 1980s anti-chinese propaganda.
4)  There is a lot many countries could learn from China - 1.4B India could learn a lot - from China whose GDP per capita is now nearly 7 times more than India or Africa - nearly 15 times.
5)  You're not an American - but an African - trying to hide behind western success. Build your own Kisumu to be 1/20 as good as China.
6)  The Chinese we have seen in Africa and elsewhere - are not only very book smart, they are the hardest of workers, working almost 15 hours, no sunday, no holiday.
7)  The world can learn a lot from china less focus on religion - and religious nonsense - that is hobbling Africa, middle east and asians.

Arcadian Joker don't be so fast to write off China. Demographics have already been effectively managed by Europe, US, Canada, etc, not rocket science. The historic growth the CCP has engineered is so incredible... 600m folks empowered in a generation sio mchezo. They already had demographics in their sights before entrenching Xi in the 2015 plenary. I don't see Xi as a Putin-like autocrat but a penultimate visionary. These people know what they are doing I won't be quick with kneejerks.

@Njamba Thousand Talents is a real program akin to US O-1 expat visa. I know PhDs who have shipped there. Americans are being hounded as tit-for-tat of Trump hostilities. China doesn't and shouldn't turn the other cheek to western bullying.

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Re: China need babies - chinese are now used to living alone
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2021, 08:40:26 AM »
1) The average Chinese leader has a Phd and IQ that is off charts.
2)  China are filling more patent than anyone else now. How can they now be innovative when US is blocking Huawei from being far ahead.
3)  Quit this 1980s anti-chinese propaganda.
4)  There is a lot many countries could learn from China - 1.4B India could learn a lot - from China whose GDP per capita is now nearly 7 times more than India or Africa - nearly 15 times.
5)  You're not an American - but an African - trying to hide behind western success. Build your own Kisumu to be 1/20 as good as China.
6)  The Chinese we have seen in Africa and elsewhere - are not only very book smart, they are the hardest of workers, working almost 15 hours, no sunday, no holiday.
7)  The world can learn a lot from china less focus on religion - and religious nonsense - that is hobbling Africa, middle east and asians.

1. Just like Ruto's IQ is off the charts and he has a PHD  8)

2. Those patents are stat padding, low merit papers, they was a discussion on that like a few months ago. China is known for that, its called saving face.

3. I'm not anti Chinese, I admire Taiwan, Hong Kong ( before CCP took over), Singapore all Chinese majority countries, they are industrious and talented people, I'm against the CCP, which is holding back the Chinese people from their full potential.

4. CCP successes can't be replicated because it is predicated on repression, land theft, state planning, massive state subsidies, and social engineering that won't fly in free democratic countries like India. GDP is not everything, otherwise Chinese wouldn't be fleeing their country in droves. China's growth is artificial.

5. Oh the irony, are you Chinese?  :D

6. Chinaman has great work ethic all agree, its his dodgy ethics that put people off.

7. We agree here, Africa wastes a lot of energy, money on religion. Africans are the most religious people, they actually believe in those Hebrew fairytales in literal sense. Sad, I think eating too much grains hasn't done wonders for the brains.
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