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Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« on: April 05, 2021, 07:01:20 PM »
By most indicators. Mwilu has attempted to play ball too late, while Ouko, Ngatia are DOA by tribal politic. Martha is distinguished, reformist, independent- minded jurist and is fit for the role. Despite her ndeep Tharaka accent she can break the glass ceiling.
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 08:40:55 PM »
Why would Ngatia or Ouko be DOA on tribal politics yet Koome a GEMA be okay?

I still see Ouko as 1st choice - career judge - safe pair of hands.

Koome will probably become Supreme court Judge.

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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 09:49:50 PM »
Koome is Tharaka not Kikuyu Gema mainstream so she qualifies. Due to the feudal tribal nature of Kenyan politics - the biggest adjudicator role for SCORK - Ngatia and Ouko are disadvantaged. Ouko tribe knocks him out ab initio despite being certified member of the status quo.
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM »
That is naive nonsense. Prof Ojwang was a Luo but his judicial philosophy was well known. Ouko is career judge and his judgements are well known. His Luo tribe is of little significance - because he like Ojwang or Magoha - he doesn't give a damn about tribe.

Anyway I think Koome and Ouko will both make it to Supreme Court - and for me Ouko - will become the president - Koome is a little mercurial. Ngatia is the most qualified but for political reasons I don't see him making.

At end of the day - the decision will be influenced by 1) Career judges sitting on the JSC and 2) Uhuru/LSK appointees.

Koome is Tharaka not Kikuyu Gema mainstream so she qualifies. Due to the feudal tribal nature of Kenyan politics - the biggest adjudicator role for SCORK - Ngatia and Ouko are disadvantaged. Ouko tribe knocks him out ab initio despite being certified member of the status quo.

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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2021, 04:08:28 AM »
My bet is Koome. Ouko tribe is DOA - he will be mere SCORK judge ala Ojwang. Maraga sullied the safe-pair-of-hands narrative despite being long-time insider. Ngatia you are right has Nzamba Kitonga problem: too independent. Koome maybe mercurial but not really a disruptor. Low-risk. She stands out more as a feminist than a reformist which makes her a good compromise. Mwilu demonstrated her independence under Maraga leading to her predicament.

Anyway anytime you tout someone as "great" it actually undermines them politically. Eg. your Samburu boy Lenaola is unlikely to be CJ soon: too brilliant, too independent. Maraga sneaked in because he was principally viewed as an intellectual lightweight.
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2021, 07:22:19 AM »
So you think I am that important . Lenaola if he goes for CJ will be jobless in 8yrs so I think he will eventually go for it when he hits 60 yrs.He still at 50s..so has nearly 15 yrs to go.

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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2021, 08:16:24 AM »
Lol don't flatter yourself. Anyone touted as great is by default not a favorite of the powers that be who want control over them. Lenaola brilliance and independence rule him out ala Mwilu and Kitonga.
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 08:58:08 AM »
Koome is Tharaka not Kikuyu Gema mainstream so she qualifies. Due to the feudal tribal nature of Kenyan politics - the biggest adjudicator role for SCORK - Ngatia and Ouko are disadvantaged. Ouko tribe knocks him out ab initio despite being certified member of the status quo.
Koome is from Imenti North. Am surprised she has been in judiciary for that long. She is one of the few untainted judges.

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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2021, 05:42:00 PM »
Koome is Tharaka not Kikuyu Gema mainstream so she qualifies. Due to the feudal tribal nature of Kenyan politics - the biggest adjudicator role for SCORK - Ngatia and Ouko are disadvantaged. Ouko tribe knocks him out ab initio despite being certified member of the status quo.
Koome is from Imenti North. Am surprised she has been in judiciary for that long. She is one of the few untainted judges.

I was testing the local tribal fact-checker
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2021, 11:25:37 AM »
Pundit - i don't have time to read newspapers. Have they picked new CJ? Is it Ngatia or Ouko?

That is naive nonsense. Prof Ojwang was a Luo but his judicial philosophy was well known. Ouko is career judge and his judgements are well known. His Luo tribe is of little significance - because he like Ojwang or Magoha - he doesn't give a damn about tribe.

Anyway I think Koome and Ouko will both make it to Supreme Court - and for me Ouko - will become the president - Koome is a little mercurial. Ngatia is the most qualified but for political reasons I don't see him making.

At end of the day - the decision will be influenced by 1) Career judges sitting on the JSC and 2) Uhuru/LSK appointees.

Koome is Tharaka not Kikuyu Gema mainstream so she qualifies. Due to the feudal tribal nature of Kenyan politics - the biggest adjudicator role for SCORK - Ngatia and Ouko are disadvantaged. Ouko tribe knocks him out ab initio despite being certified member of the status quo.
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Re: Martha Koome tosha for CJ
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2021, 11:44:32 AM »
You won :)
Pundit - i don't have time to read newspapers. Have they picked new CJ? Is it Ngatia or Ouko?