IEBC clears BBI for MCA

[RV Pundit]

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That mean next stage is 3 months with MCAs - maybe with a week to submit the bill.

Feb-March-April ( some NASA counties may decide to do it quicker than that . If all goes well - then we will have parliament starting
first reading in may/june - and 3 months later - in 2nd reading  September - and possibly pass it on October. 

Then Uhuru will give IEBC 3 months to hold the referendum...that will mean referendum in 1st Q of 2022.


That is assuming no challenge in court.

[Njuri Ncheke]

That mean next stage is 3 months with MCAs - maybe with a week to submit the bill.

Feb-March-April ( some NASA counties may decide to do it quicker than that . If all goes well - then we will have parliament starting
first reading in may/june - and 3 months later - in 2nd reading  September - and possibly pass it on October. 

Then Uhuru will give IEBC 3 months to hold the referendum...that will mean referendum in 1st Q of 2022.


That is assuming no challenge in court.

Luo Nyanza is aching to pass it this weekend. It will be interesting to see what happens in Mt Kenya.

[RV Pundit]

Yes they rejected Mzigo in 7 days - they won't even bother with public participation.

Luo Nyanza is aching to pass it this weekend. It will be interesting to see what happens in Mt Kenya.

[Nowayhaha]

According to law no referendum can be conducted one year to the elections. Meaning deadline is August hence the reason they are trying to hurry it up.
A court injuction will theow it beyond August and we will forget about referendumn once and for all

That mean next stage is 3 months with MCAs - maybe with a week to submit the bill.

Feb-March-April ( some NASA counties may decide to do it quicker than that . If all goes well - then we will have parliament starting
first reading in may/june - and 3 months later - in 2nd reading  September - and possibly pass it on October. 

Then Uhuru will give IEBC 3 months to hold the referendum...that will mean referendum in 1st Q of 2022.


That is assuming no challenge in court.

[RV Pundit]

Really - yes one court injunction will throw it out then.
Which law is that?

According to law no referendum can be conducted one year to the elections. Meaning deadline is August hence the reason they are trying to hurry it up.
A court injuction will theow it beyond August and we will forget about referendumn once and for all

[Nowayhaha]

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/politics/article/2001395793/leaders-say-referendum-bill-timelines-to-delay-2022-poll

Really - yes one court injunction will throw it out then.
Which law is that?

According to law no referendum can be conducted one year to the elections. Meaning deadline is August hence the reason they are trying to hurry it up.
A court injuction will theow it beyond August and we will forget about referendumn once and for all

[Higgins the genius]

According to law no referendum can be conducted one year to the elections. Meaning deadline is August hence the reason they are trying to hurry it up.
A court injuction will theow it beyond August and we will forget about referendumn once and for all

That mean next stage is 3 months with MCAs - maybe with a week to submit the bill.

Feb-March-April ( some NASA counties may decide to do it quicker than that . If all goes well - then we will have parliament starting
first reading in may/june - and 3 months later - in 2nd reading  September - and possibly pass it on October. 

Then Uhuru will give IEBC 3 months to hold the referendum...that will mean referendum in 1st Q of 2022.


That is assuming no challenge in court.

This is not accurate.  You can even hold a referendum on the election day

[RV Pundit]

Did it become a law? Parliament itself is in shambles - because judiciary not only has recommended it's disbandment - but also invalidated many laws.

Anyway best place to fight BBI is the courts - delay it - get multiple choices - and then hold it in 2022 - la' carte menu style.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/politics/article/2001395793/leaders-say-referendum-bill-timelines-to-delay-2022-poll

Really - yes one court injunction will throw it out then.
Which law is that?

According to law no referendum can be conducted one year to the elections. Meaning deadline is August hence the reason they are trying to hurry it up.
A court injuction will theow it beyond August and we will forget about referendumn once and for all

[GeeMail]

Admin should sticky this one. Will be the hot topic for the next one year or so. As Higgins says, Nowyaya is wrong in his legal interpretation of referendum timelines.

255. Amendment of this Constitution
 The Constitution of Kenya  Chapter Sixteen - Amendment of this Constitution  Hits: 41207

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(1) A proposed amendment to this Constitution shall be enacted in accordance with Article 256 or 257, and approved in accordance with clause (2) by a referendum, if the amendment relates to any of the following matters–--

(a) the supremacy of this Constitution;
(b) the territory of Kenya;
(c) the sovereignty of the people;
(d) the national values and principles of governance referred to in Article 10 (2) (a) to (d);
(e) the Bill of Rights;
(f) the term of office of the President;
(g) the independence of the Judiciary and the commissions and independent offices to which Chapter Fifteen applies;
(h) the functions of Parliament;
(i) the objects, principles and structure of devolved government; or
(j) the provisions of this Chapter.

(2) A proposed amendment shall be approved by a referendum under clause (1) if–--

(a) at least twenty per cent of the registered voters in each of at least half of the counties vote in the referendum;
and
(b) the amendment is supported by a simple majority of the citizens voting in the referendum.

(3) An amendment to this Constitution that does not relate to a matter specified in clause (1) shall be enacted either--

(a) by Parliament, in accordance with Article 256; or
(b) by the people and Parliament, in accordance with Article 257.

[GeeMail]

257. Amendment by popular initiative
 The Constitution of Kenya  Chapter Sixteen - Amendment of this Constitution  Hits: 27636

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(1) An amendment to this Constitution may be proposed by a popular initiative signed by at least one million registered voters.

(2) A popular initiative for an amendment to this Constitution may be in the form of a general suggestion or a formulated draft Bill.

(3) If a popular initiative is in the form of a general suggestion, the promoters of that popular initiative shall formulate it into a draft Bill.

(4) The promoters of a popular initiative shall deliver the draft Bill and the supporting signatures to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission, which shall verify that the initiative is supported by at least one million registered voters.

(5) If the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission is satisfied that the initiative meets the requirements of this Article, the Commission shall submit the draft Bill to each county assembly for consideration within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission.

(6) If a county assembly approves the draft Bill within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission, the speaker of the county assembly shall deliver a copy of the draft Bill jointly to the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament, with a certificate that the county assembly has approved it.

(7) If a draft Bill has been approved by a majority of the county assemblies, it shall be introduced in Parliament without delay.

( A Bill under this Article is passed by Parliament if supported by a majority of the members of each House.

(9) If Parliament passes the Bill, it shall be submitted to the President for assent in accordance with Articles 256 (4) and (5).

(10) If either House of Parliament fails to pass the Bill, or the Bill relates to a matter specified in 255 (1), the proposed amendment shall be submitted to the people in a referendum.

(11) Article 255 (2) applies, with any necessary modifications, to a referendum under clause (10).

[RV Pundit]

I think from now - it question of BBI being stopped by MCAs - like Punguza Mzigo - or delayed by courts.

Either way Ruto should pursue both.

RV has 14 counties...he only need 10 if he can get the 14 on his side.

Those 10 shouldn't be hard if he can get NEP 3; GEMA 3 out of the 10; and then go for another 4 nationally - coast/western/eastern

If that fails - there is court injunction to delay it.

If MCAs are smart - this is their time to make money

[GeeMail]

MCAs can only make money from Ruto. The money they would have made from Uhuru or Raila is already given in BBI. It simply means they pass the bill while eating from Bill.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto should apply solominic wisdom - no need to kill the baby - but we need to pick and choice good things in BBI - and reject the bad ones.

I think Ruto should focus on court - to get us multiple choices options - no need to waste time with BBI until it passes all the hurdles - and we have referendum date -
Once we get multiple choice - we can reject the nonsense in BBI - and go with winners (35%,

 

MCAs can only make money from Ruto. The money they would have made from Uhuru or Raila is already given in BBI. It simply means they pass the bill while eating from Bill.