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Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« on: January 20, 2021, 10:23:06 AM »
Just build a refinery in Lokichar - and use it as chance to forcefully separate pokot and turkana - by acquiring 10 mile buffer - btw them - to be used for oil production.

Kenya probably consume now anything upto 200,000 -300,000 - if you add regional demand all the way to congo  - we should just build a small refinery in Turkana - and save our economy 3B worth of forex annually.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/shipping-logistics/kenya-seeks-sh500bn-pipeline-oil-storage-facilities-3262098

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Re: Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2021, 10:38:18 AM »
I wonder where Munyes has been all these days. He seemed to have not consulted the energy experts in his ministry. Kenya's oil reserves are not worth it to build a refinery. Modern refineries in order to be economic viable, have to take up a lot of oil. Kenya's annual consumption does not call for a national refinery. The solution which was proposed and got rejected because of politics, was to have a joint refinery with Uganda. This refinery would have been built in Uganda, which has much more discovered oil reserves than Kenya. Kenya had agreed to the plan, but somewhere along the line Uganda opted for the option of building a crude oil pipeline through Tz.
This is where African countries do not get their act together. The East African region should get together and stop playing rivals. This huge oil potential should be solved together. The oil reserves in Uganda and Kenya are enough for the whole region and everyone would benefit from cheaper oil. Insead everyone is doing his thing.

Just build a refinery in Lokichar - and use it as chance to forcefully separate pokot and turkana - by acquiring 10 mile buffer - btw them - to be used for oil production.

Kenya probably consume now anything upto 200,000 -300,000 - if you add regional demand all the way to congo  - we should just build a small refinery in Turkana - and save our economy 3B worth of forex annually.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/shipping-logistics/kenya-seeks-sh500bn-pipeline-oil-storage-facilities-3262098

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Re: Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 12:15:55 PM »
Dynasties would not want that simply because they wouldn't have a cut, they prefer to export it then turn it back on high seas and re import it through mombasa. Munyes is one useless mofo, Turkanas are being slaughtered left right and center by other bandit kabilas like pokot when this oil money could have been used to advance them. Trust me if this oil was found in Central kenya the stories would have been very different now. Its better for it to stay unmined if Turkanas can't benefit from it. That said Turkanas live a very wretched life bana have never seen a so destitute people like them in my life, totally out of sync with reality.

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Re: Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 01:19:48 PM »
I think refinery for 500,000 barrels is not small. I have seen Nigeria thugs refine oil in forests. There is really nothing complicated.

Uganda and Kenya oil is sweat but sticky - it need to be heated - and I doubt Uganda can pull the world longest heated pipeline.

Kenya should simply build huge refinery and target - Kenya, Ethiopia, South Sudan - and that is enough market.
Uganda should do the same target Eastern Congo, Rwanda and Tanzania - Burundi;

There is no need to export - to earn dollars - we can save the same dollars.

Kenya should pay off Tullow and do this internally.

I wonder where Munyes has been all these days. He seemed to have not consulted the energy experts in his ministry. Kenya's oil reserves are not worth it to build a refinery. Modern refineries in order to be economic viable, have to take up a lot of oil. Kenya's annual consumption does not call for a national refinery. The solution which was proposed and got rejected because of politics, was to have a joint refinery with Uganda. This refinery would have been built in Uganda, which has much more discovered oil reserves than Kenya. Kenya had agreed to the plan, but somewhere along the line Uganda opted for the option of building a crude oil pipeline through Tz.
This is where African countries do not get their act together. The East African region should get together and stop playing rivals. This huge oil potential should be solved together. The oil reserves in Uganda and Kenya are enough for the whole region and everyone would benefit from cheaper oil. Insead everyone is doing his thing.

Just build a refinery in Lokichar - and use it as chance to forcefully separate pokot and turkana - by acquiring 10 mile buffer - btw them - to be used for oil production.

Kenya probably consume now anything upto 200,000 -300,000 - if you add regional demand all the way to congo  - we should just build a small refinery in Turkana - and save our economy 3B worth of forex annually.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/shipping-logistics/kenya-seeks-sh500bn-pipeline-oil-storage-facilities-3262098

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Re: Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 04:25:32 PM »
Mark my words. Refineries are an expensive adventure. It is cheaper to export Kenya's crude oil and reimport refined oil than to biuld a refinery of small capacity. This topic has been discussed in past times when Kenya and Uganda discovered oil. It is not viable building a refinery in Kenya. Our hungry leaders would have taken the chance long ago in order to get their cut.

Targeting a market is not enough. The countries have to cooperate. Africans do not think regionally. They simply think of themselves. Together the EAC has a region of more than 250M people. When everyone brews his own busaa, the population factor looses meaning.

I think refinery for 500,000 barrels is not small. I have seen Nigeria thugs refine oil in forests. There is really nothing complicated.

Uganda and Kenya oil is sweat but sticky - it need to be heated - and I doubt Uganda can pull the world longest heated pipeline.

Kenya should simply build huge refinery and target - Kenya, Ethiopia, South Sudan - and that is enough market.
Uganda should do the same target Eastern Congo, Rwanda and Tanzania - Burundi;

There is no need to export - to earn dollars - we can save the same dollars.

Kenya should pay off Tullow and do this internally.

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Re: Turkana oil - should be for domestic consumption
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 05:45:29 PM »
Mark my words. Refineries are an expensive adventure. It is cheaper to export Kenya's crude oil and reimport refined oil than to biuld a refinery of small capacity. This topic has been discussed in past times when Kenya and Uganda discovered oil. It is not viable building a refinery in Kenya. Our hungry leaders would have taken the chance long ago in order to get their cut.

Targeting a market is not enough. The countries have to cooperate. Africans do not think regionally. They simply think of themselves. Together the EAC has a region of more than 250M people. When everyone brews his own busaa, the population factor looses meaning.

I think refinery for 500,000 barrels is not small. I have seen Nigeria thugs refine oil in forests. There is really nothing complicated.

Uganda and Kenya oil is sweat but sticky - it need to be heated - and I doubt Uganda can pull the world longest heated pipeline.

Kenya should simply build huge refinery and target - Kenya, Ethiopia, South Sudan - and that is enough market.
Uganda should do the same target Eastern Congo, Rwanda and Tanzania - Burundi;

There is no need to export - to earn dollars - we can save the same dollars.

Kenya should pay off Tullow and do this internally.

It's an African thing.  They'd rather struggle in isolation, than to see one or the other gain slightly more benefits.
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