Nelson Havi monkey show II - LSK kanjora meeting

[Nefertiti]

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RV Pundit - free advice don't hitch your wagon on this nutcase. He's another Miguna... the incompetent  fool could not even let anyone speak freely - including His Eminence Sr Queen's Counsel PLO Lumumba

Haha it reads like a comedy of errors- Havi called a meeting to discuss the CEO only to find the majority of lawyers want to impeach him. Naturally he resorted to muting their Zoom audios - akin to MIB - and this same guy is in court accusing others of not following the rules 

Lawyers almost come to blows at heated meeting
Tuesday, January 19, 2021


Havi and LSK vice president Carolyne Daudi

What should have been a housekeeping meeting of learned friends yesterday turned into a heckling contest punctuated by thinly veiled insults as the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) suspended all 10 council members in a heated, chaotic convention.

LSK’s Gitanga Road office could have passed for a busy open air market, as some lawyers voiced their opinions while shouting down those that opposed them.

The Special General Meeting (SGM) was called to discuss the appointment of auditors to probe LSK’s books of accounts, deliberate on an impeachment motion against Mr Havi, the suspension of some council members and the appointment of advocates to represent the lobby in court cases involving internal wrangles.

Months of infighting have split the LSK into two factions—one backing Mr Havi and another on CEO Mercy Wambua’s side.

Yesterday’s SGM was called to settle the differences that have threatened to stall operations at the lawyers’ umbrella body.

After more than five hours of an impasse over how to proceed with the meeting, Mr Havi dismissed the impeachment motion filed against him by lawyer Gad Aguko, just moments after members suspended the council. The council oversights the LSK’s operations, just as boards of directors watch over companies.

Mr Havi made it clear that ongoing efforts to unite the two factions will likely not work, an indication that the fights at the society are a long way from over.

“We have listened to your calls that we unite. But you must realise the queer nature of this… We come here with differences. There has been interference and I’ve taken to the podium here and said who is interfering with the running of LSK. So don’t come and tell me to unite with those people,” Mr Havi said.

Council member Roseline Odede resigned just moments before the vote suspending her colleagues. Ms Odede cited a hostile working environment, and had recommended that the entire council resigns.

The suspension motion initially targeted the eight council members believed to be on Ms Wambua’s side.
Bernard Ngetich, Aluso Ingati, Carolyne Mutheu, Faith Odhiambo, Linda Emukule, Beth Michoma, Ndinda Kinyili and George Omwansa are believed to back Ms Wambua and oppose Mr Havi.

But the motion was amended in the course of the meeting to include the two council members allied to Mr Havi — Herine Kabita and Esther Ang’awa.

Only 300 lawyers were physically present at LSK’s Gitanga Road headquarters, while more than 3,000 attended the meeting through online platform Zoom.

Some of the online attendees, like prominent lawyers PLO Lumumba and Linda Obonyo, were denied a chance to speak when Mr Havi brought on the floor the first motion—whether or not to hire audit firm Parker Randall.

Ms Obonyo was granted a chance to speak hours later, but Mr Havi ordered that her microphone be muted the moment she demanded that the voting on motions be done through a proper poll other than a show of hands.

Several other lawyers attending the SGM online, who either demanded a proper poll involving counting of supporters and opponents of motions, or those who said anything against Mr Havi’s control of the heated session, were also quickly muted.

Those physically present and in disagreement with Mr Havi did not have it easy either. When the now suspended Mr Omwansa demanded that the voting proceeds via a poll, Mr Havi branded him a saboteur. In a somewhat sense of irony, Mr Havi had pushed for the SGM to have Ms Wambua removed, but the LSK President came face to face with the same axe as a section of lawyers sought to impeach him with less than a year in office.

Ms Wambua sued the LSK last year to stop her removal, and the High Court issued orders barring the discussion of the case or her removal at the SGM. That was not to be as the two factions traded accusations in the course of the meeting.

Mr Havi accused Ms Wambua of sabotage, while the CEO maintained that a false narrative was being created against her.

Mr Havi has been in office for just under 11 months now, but his term has been divisive as he now leads one of two factions at the LSK, which are in the middle of a vicious battle for control of the institution.

Yesterday, lawyer Caroline Thuo described the war as the elephant in LSK’s room, warning that it could disrupt the institution’s smooth running.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/lawyers-almost-come-to-blows-at-heated-meeting-3261330

[RV Pundit]

Young ambitious blood. No respecter of old reputation. Ruto like these kind of people. It remind Ruto who he is. You gotta hustle and fight against entrenched interest & hegemony.

PLO has been speaking since Havi was in diaper.Time for his zoom to be muted . Orengo was an MP in 1970s! - I wasn't even born - but these guys are now dying their hair black - and still want to dictate things as they head to 80s.

I know you angry because ODM empty suit Sifuna was kicked out.

[Nefertiti]

Lol ati Sifuna. Am "angry" because LSK is a serious body that keeps GoK in check. LSK is stronger and more effective than most NGOs. Likes of Linda Katiba or KNHRC or human rights watch are feckless. Usually lawyers are united and Havi is not the first young blood to lead them - Charles Kanjama, Eric Mutua were Havi agemates and there were no such shenanigans. Even the super-arrogant Ahmednassir aka GM didn't face such resistance.

LSK is not parliament where Orengo should step aside for Babu Owino or Murkomen. This is a professional body not a party. Majority of the lawyers are actually young like Havi - including the younger lady CEO he is quarreling with - but Havi incredibly poor leadership and low EQ means majority of the lawyers want him out. Imagine he called a meeting without bothering to read the mood of the majority - now after muting them - refusing to hold a vote for his own impeachment  - don't be surprised to see parallel LSK petitions to high court over Kananu, new CJ or such.

This is just poor leadership. A toxic persona. They need to fire the clown before LSK goes to the dogs.

[Nowayhaha]

First Kanjama has never been LSK chair, seconly what is happening is poltical warfare pitting BBI Camps and Hustler Nation camp. Even Eric Mutua who was a P.N.U. candidate aka KKK candidate turned against UhuRuto after 2013 elections . Luckily we had Grand Mullah as LSK rep in JSC and  had alot of influence in JSK and Supreme Court. Come 2017 after electing Okero with the hopes of defending the young lawyers he turned super tribal and was defending his tribes mate Raila futing 2017 elections.

Havi is doing a very good job as lsk chair with the pro bono cases which last we saw in the era of paul Muite , Kamau Kuria and Grand Mullah.
Hopefully he can maintain and pull lawyers together after Ruto comes in next year we need partnership so as to do another cleansing kr radical surgery of Judiciary. It is too corupt .

Lol ati Sifuna. Am "angry" because LSK is a serious body that keeps GoK in check. LSK is stronger and more effective than most NGOs. Likes of Linda Katiba or KNHRC or human rights watch are feckless. Usually lawyers are united and Havi is not the first young blood to lead them - Charles Kanjama, Eric Mutua were Havi agemates and there were no such shenanigans. Even the super-arrogant Ahmednassir aka GM didn't face such resistance.

LSK is not parliament where Orengo should step aside for Babu Owino or Murkomen. This is a professional body not a party. Majority of the lawyers are actually young like Havi - including the younger lady CEO he is quarreling with - but Havi incredibly poor leadership and low EQ means majority of the lawyers want him out. Imagine he called a meeting without bothering to read the mood of the majority - now after muting them - refusing to hold a vote for his own impeachment  - don't be surprised to see parallel LSK petitions to high court over Kananu, new CJ or such.

This is just poor leadership. A toxic persona. They need to fire the clown before LSK goes to the dogs.

[Nefertiti]

Noway that is a good story: why are majority of lawyers against Havi? Does it mean BBI has more followers than hustler in LSK? I mean the newspaper says Havi refused to hold a proper ballot to escape impeachment.

[Nowayhaha]

Since time memorial jubilee lawyers are more than  NASA lawyers , only that Jubilee lawyers are the ones making money in that sphere, NASA lawyers are noisy.

Noway that is a good story: why are majority of lawyers against Havi? Does it mean BBI has more followers than hustler in LSK? I mean the newspaper says Havi refused to hold a proper ballot to escape impeachment.

[Pragmatic]

First Kanjama has never been LSK chair, seconly what is happening is poltical warfare pitting BBI Camps and Hustler Nation camp. Even Eric Mutua who was a P.N.U. candidate aka KKK candidate turned against UhuRuto after 2013 elections . Luckily we had Grand Mullah as LSK rep in JSC and  had alot of influence in JSK and Supreme Court. Come 2017 after electing Okero with the hopes of defending the young lawyers he turned super tribal and was defending his tribes mate Raila futing 2017 elections.

Havi is doing a very good job as lsk chair with the pro bono cases which last we saw in the era of paul Muite , Kamau Kuria and Grand Mullah.
Hopefully he can maintain and pull lawyers together after Ruto comes in next year we need partnership so as to do another cleansing kr radical surgery of Judiciary. It is too corupt .

And you do know that Havi and Corruption are twins. How he and your future President (thief No.1) will rid the judiciary of corruption beats any imagination!!! The legal fraternity and your Future President are the reason Kenya is in the shithole that it is in....