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Offline KenyanPlato

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2020, 07:59:07 PM »
Which means we need carpenters, mason who understand geometry, physics, shrinkage effects, marketing psychology - name it. Our all round education is the engine that drives the micro enterprises. This push for specialization for kids is totally destructive and it is a good thing that it is a lost cause.
So true.
walking around in all bars and hotels tables have to be balanced by cartons because these carpenters did not require geometry.
Tell them..basic education and quality one is what kenya needs..fixing public education is where gok should be spending resources on..the knbs numbers have proven that high unemployment is among the least educated..an educated person is agile and be molded to any job skill ..

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2020, 09:18:43 PM »
Jack of all trade master of none. We need people who know a lot in a limited field. Basic primary education is enough for everyone. Then from there - you specialize - or continue the academic route.
Which means we need carpenters, mason who understand geometry, physics, shrinkage effects, marketing psychology - name it. Our all round education is the engine that drives the micro enterprises. This push for specialization for kids is totally destructive and it is a good thing that it is a lost cause.
So true.
walking around in all bars and hotels tables have to be balanced by cartons because these carpenters did not require geometry.

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 12:12:55 AM »
Jack of all trade master of none. We need people who know a lot in a limited field. Basic primary education is enough for everyone. Then from there - you specialize - or continue the academic route.
Which means we need carpenters, mason who understand geometry, physics, shrinkage effects, marketing psychology - name it. Our all round education is the engine that drives the micro enterprises. This push for specialization for kids is totally destructive and it is a good thing that it is a lost cause.
So true.
walking around in all bars and hotels tables have to be balanced by cartons because these carpenters did not require geometry.

When does basic knowledge education end?

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 09:31:06 AM »
Basic knowledge either after 8 or 12yrs or 16yrs..but education should align with society needs  and reality.A developed high end economy need highly educated people..ours need practical basic skills to fix basic infrastructure.We are not inventing the wheel.

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 05:42:33 PM »
Basic knowledge either after 8 or 12yrs or 16yrs..but education should align with society needs  and reality.A developed high end economy need highly educated people..ours need practical basic skills to fix basic infrastructure.We are not inventing the wheel.

Wow that is too young..16 or 18 would be ideal..what is going on with tivet

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2020, 06:09:53 PM »
8yrs of schooling - like in form 1 - someone should choose their path - and really based on KCPE - their fortune won't change much. Majority should be taken to special high school - where most of subject taught are practical hands on.
Wow that is too young..16 or 18 would be ideal..what is going on with tivet

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2020, 06:16:30 PM »
8yrs of schooling - like in form 1 - someone should choose their path - and really based on KCPE - their fortune won't change much. Majority should be taken to special high school - where most of subject taught are practical hands on.
Wow that is too young..16 or 18 would be ideal..what is going on with tivet

We do not have this capability..investing in a technical school requires money..in my area there used to be these technical schools but they were poorly funded and ended up dying out due to poor enrollment...even here is states this has been tried but it ends up failing because no one is willing to commit funds to do these programs properly

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2020, 06:17:11 PM »
would you get your 12 year old in a technical school in kenya?

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2020, 07:02:54 PM »
Yes, if he wasn't academically inclined. This is done by the Swiss. After primary school - Kids are placed on two tracks - academic - or vocational. It called dual system.

Students who aspire for an academic career enter Mittelschule (also named Gymnasium, or Kantonsschule, a public school by the canton/state) to be prepared for further studies and the Matura (normally obtained after 12 or 13 years of school usually at the age of 18 or 19).

Students intending to pursue a trade or vocation complete three to four additional years before entering Vocational Educations which are regulated by federal law and are based on a cooperation of private business offering educational job-positions and public schools offering obligatory school-lessons complementary to the on-the-job education

would you get your 12 year old in a technical school in kenya?

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Re: Fruit of higher education liberalization
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2020, 10:51:20 PM »
would you get your 12 year old in a technical school in kenya?

Kids start school too young nowadays. They should start schooling at 5 years. Graduate at 13/14 then enroll in hands on practical and technical vocations of their choice. By 18 they should be wage earners contributing to society.

In the old world, youth would apprentice with a master to learn a trade. We need to bring back that model.
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