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Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« on: March 15, 2020, 08:02:11 PM »
Is this true? Apparently Trump is fighting the German govt for one of ther pharm companies Curevac that's working on a vaccine, asking them to develop it "For U.S. only"...Sounds fishy but I'm too desperate for the idea/possibility of a vaccine to brush it aside.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2020, 08:12:30 PM »
trump is an idiot. I think CUBA is close to coming up with one.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2020, 10:01:51 PM »
It happens when health becomes a transactional commodity, even in the middle of a health crisis.  Is there anywhere else like that in the world?
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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2020, 11:12:24 PM »
From the article, Trump seems to vigorously bidding for the vaccine (which sounds as if its almost ready). I cannot fault him for his overriding responsibility is for US and US citizens. But of course i would expect him to make loads of money from it as US would have sole distribution and control of it.US would impose its conditions for anyone or any country in need of it. Like it has been doing forever.
But having said that, the article is from Guardian which was once very respectable leftist leaning newsmedia. Right now they have been obsessed/affected by TrumP Derangement Syndrome such that they would spin anything to make Trump looks bad.   


Is this true? Apparently Trump is fighting the German govt for one of ther pharm companies Curevac that's working on a vaccine, asking them to develop it "For U.S. only"...Sounds fishy but I'm too desperate for the idea/possibility of a vaccine to brush it aside.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2020, 12:44:23 AM »
 :D :D :D :D
What are you smoking? Cuba is known for its good health system, but not for research.

trump is an idiot. I think CUBA is close to coming up with one.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2020, 05:17:04 AM »
:D :D :D :D
What are you smoking? Cuba is known for its good health system, but not for research.

trump is an idiot. I think CUBA is close to coming up with one.

Said who? China was using flu vials from Cuba for therapy against codv19.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2020, 07:16:33 AM »
It happens when health becomes a transactional commodity, even in the middle of a health crisis.  Is there anywhere else like that in the world?

It's certainly not defended elsewhere like it is by U.S libertarians. It is madness. Worshipping money as the Alpha and Omega.

Other people should straight-up disrespect and violate whatever IP bs they use to force other people to die so they can make money. I hope India is ready and on standby to repeat the anti-retrovirals copy thing. Shame on America for having such a vile president but even more, a vile philosophy that normalizes this madness.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2020, 07:22:07 AM »
From the article, Trump seems to vigorously bidding for the vaccine (which sounds as if its almost ready). I cannot fault him for his overriding responsibility is for US and US citizens. But of course i would expect him to make loads of money from it as US would have sole distribution and control of it.US would impose its conditions for anyone or any country in need of it. Like it has been doing forever.
But having said that, the article is from Guardian which was once very respectable leftist leaning newsmedia. Right now they have been obsessed/affected by TrumP Derangement Syndrome such that they would spin anything to make Trump looks bad.   


Is this true? Apparently Trump is fighting the German govt for one of ther pharm companies Curevac that's working on a vaccine, asking them to develop it "For U.S. only"...Sounds fishy but I'm too desperate for the idea/possibility of a vaccine to brush it aside.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

Well, it's also being reported by the EU Politico as well as the Independent, and they all apparently got it from reports in local German papers:
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-confirms-that-donald-trump-tried-to-buy-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trump-us-cases-germany-carevac-a9403646.html

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2020, 10:21:46 AM »
Kindly share a link on this information from you.

Said who? China was using flu vials from Cuba for therapy against codv19.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2020, 05:49:19 PM »
It happens when health becomes a transactional commodity, even in the middle of a health crisis.  Is there anywhere else like that in the world?

It's certainly not defended elsewhere like it is by U.S libertarians. It is madness. Worshipping money as the Alpha and Omega.

Other people should straight-up disrespect and violate whatever IP bs they use to force other people to die so they can make money. I hope India is ready and on standby to repeat the anti-retrovirals copy thing. Shame on America for having such a vile president but even more, a vile philosophy that normalizes this madness.

I think they rejected the WHO test for similar reasons.  Some big pharma forces in the US wanted to come up with their own for $100 per test.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2020, 06:49:08 PM »
That is obvious. There were already very reliable test in the market, but Trump and his big industry entourage decided to play pata potea with the lives of Americans and let a US manufactured test which gave out unreliable results. So weeks were lost and hardly anyone was tested for the virus in the US.

I think they rejected the WHO test for similar reasons.  Some big pharma forces in the US wanted to come up with their own for $100 per test.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2020, 09:44:19 PM »
New American vaccine ready for testing on humans starting Monday:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/first-human-trial-for-coronavirus-vaccine-begins-monday-in-the-us.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51906604

If it's some ridiculous price, we will and should steal it ala antiretrovirals and by we, I of course mean the entire non-first world. It's not theft but a moral imperative.

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Re: Trump trying to keep Corona vaccine for U.S. only?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2020, 04:55:18 PM »
Cuba has serious medical research capacity. It's health system is incredibly good despite decades of malicious sanctions by US. It is a fact known worldwide and reason even Kenya went to got Cuban doctors plus medical collaboration.



:o Never knew Cuba for doing any research. Now I know better.
Viva Fidel :D :D :D

http://blog.yalebooks.com/2020/03/12/cubas-contribution-to-combating-covid-19/