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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2020, 01:58:16 PM »
You're skirting around issues. So this thing will be hidden until when? During referendum - what will we be voting. Yours is a mix of desperation and now insanity. Executive PM - is one that appoint and run gov - but still subservient to PORK(Head of State). Uhuru is not taking that in my view either. But BBI is not even proposing a very weak position - A Duale sitting on the cabinet like Rafael Tuju does now  :D - and at some point they have to come clean.I mean BBI 1.0 - now you're saying we are still hiding it - come June - it will still be hidden. Crazy thoughts.

PEV happens spontaneously but the poisoning of relationships starts early. There was luo-kalenjin clash in 2017 - around Chemelili-Muhorini. It didn't get out of hand like you'd expect Kikuyu-Kalenjin would. And the reason is kalenjin-kikuyu settlement is mini-Rwanda...one village this tribe...next village that..or some village completely mixed. The luo-kipsigis or nandi borders & settlements are well defined...so it like kenya-somali fight..it can only be a border clash...but kikuyu-kalenjin is another story...we will be talking 1M internal refugees.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017-10-29-relative-calm-returns-to-kericho-kisumu-border-muhoroni-security-boss/

Those calls for BBI 1 are strategy to assuage Gema. Including one-man one-vote and the youth welfare they plagiarized from Tangatanga in Naivasha. They are running away with Tangatanga ball and once they nail them, Exec PM will fly under the radar of elected PORK as head of state and govt. We know BBI is choreographed with predetermined outcome. Uhuru parrots - Murathe, Atwoli - are still telling us he is going to be PM. But his bigger mouthpieces have switched to BB1 because it is key to assuage Mt Kenya.

Your take that Raila greed after watching BBI crowds is the reason is implausible. Because he needs Uhuru and cannot betray him and lose vantage point against Ruto. He has outdone himself in kowtowing to Uhuru I don't see him messing it that easy. Uhuru is behind all the sudden change of tune by ODM and shebang - esp Raila seeming to embrace one-man one-vote.

This is last minute jujitsu move by Obama that propped Biden. Uhuru is playing a good game and your boy is in trouble.


PEV - I don't think peace in RV or Ruto ambition is more useful than democracy. If it spontaneous or unsponsored by the elite then those warriors or Mungiki would be mere murderers and will hang on their own. Ruto wouldn't go back to ICC if he didn't engineer it. Kalenjin would not have the Raila non-Gema support that forced Kibaki to accept NARA. They would be isolated and face political, legal and police backlash. In short PEV 2 is a losing card for Ruto.

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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2020, 06:04:10 PM »
It will be hidden in plain sight. PORK elected as head of state and govt. Appoints majority party leader as PM. To fire PM you need 2/3 of MPs. PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet. PORK opens parliament and swears in folks like the queen with no executive powers.

Wait for BBI 2 by June.

Peace between Kalenjin and Kikuyu is not more useful than democracy. Some people will die from arrows. Others from bullets. If it spontaneous like Muhoroni it won't be as bad as 2007/8. But Uhuru and Kikuyu will not back Ruto for that GENOCRACY.
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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2020, 06:23:03 PM »
You're talking parliamentary system. The one proposed by Raila's ODM, MaDVD and Kalonzo is very clear. Here is ODM's
https://www.theelephant.info/documents/odm-feedback-on-the-report-of-the-bbi-taskforce/
It will be hidden in plain sight. PORK elected as head of state and govt. Appoints majority party leader as PM. To fire PM you need 2/3 of MPs. PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet. PORK opens parliament and swears in folks like the queen with no executive powers.

Wait for BBI 2 by June.

Peace between Kalenjin and Kikuyu is not more useful than democracy. Some people will die from arrows. Others from bullets. If it spontaneous like Muhoroni it won't be as bad as 2007/8. But Uhuru and Kikuyu will not back Ruto for that GENOCRACY.

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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2020, 07:12:02 PM »
Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.
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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2020, 07:28:18 PM »
Or playing Raila.
Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.

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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2020, 07:32:33 PM »
That you been singing. No sign of Uhuruto detente is discernible.

Or playing Raila.
Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.
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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2020, 07:27:56 AM »
This should make it clear Robina that BBI 2.0 died as Raila again failed to push for majimbo and parliamentary systems https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-03-06-rutos-last-laugh-over-railas-powerful-pm-u-turn/

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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2020, 03:35:57 PM »
It's called sleight of hand or cards under the table. Maybe you can't read between the lines but it says right there that Raila changed tack for Mt Kenya.

CoG lead by Oparanya and Waiguru want Exec PM as head of government.

In meantime Nakuru BBI rally is drawing heat as Ruto crew get excluded by Lee Kinyanjui. David Gikaria and Sam Arama have joined Kinyanjui to dance reggae. The defections from Tangatanga continue.

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Re: Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2020, 06:33:11 PM »
Arama long left. Is BBI now a party :)

And there is no hidden card....it plain ENGLISH.

You desperately want to hide under Uhuru but you'll soon be left high and dry.

It's called sleight of hand or cards under the table. Maybe you can't read between the lines but it says right there that Raila changed tack for Mt Kenya.

CoG lead by Oparanya and Waiguru want Exec PM as head of government.

In meantime Nakuru BBI rally is drawing heat as Ruto crew get excluded by Lee Kinyanjui. David Gikaria and Sam Arama have joined Kinyanjui to dance reggae. The defections from Tangatanga continue.