Author Topic: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem  (Read 9269 times)

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2019, 06:15:09 PM »

Those two are too far left I think.  I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio.  While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.

Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.

Yes, he appealed to those types to turn out.  But even then, he only barely managed to win, aided by Hillary's unpopularity.  That approach can only work for Republicans because they can be tribal.  While Democrats have a bigger pool to work with, it's a less tribal and more diverse mix.  So they cannot push one extreme issue like Republicans.

The liberal "tribes" are inequality, student debt, medical bills, climate change, etc. Sanders is a brazen socialist preaching 60% taxes. Warren wants a 30 trillion dollar free medical scheme and entitlements bonanza. Biden is Hillary's twin who will nail the battle and lose the war.

Bernie is an old dog who should step down for Warren. After he drops off his crowd will flock to Warren. Warren can beat Biden and take on Trump without suppressing turnout like Hillary. I hope the DNC learned the lesson not to bungle the primaries by favoring the mainstream candidate. Rigging in Biden is the surest path to defeat in the general elections.

Warren at the top of the ticket will not attract enough independents though.  It's easier to get the various tribes to settle for the lesser evil and just show up for Biden.

Why couldn't the independents save the moderate Hillary? As a centrist Biden is worse. Hillary was leading the primaries by a mile but with her "blue wall" still lost to Trump. Those all-important swing tribes - deplorables, misfits, hippies, students - will fall for Trump or Warren or Sanders. Not Biden. A radical exciting the primaries is a good counterpunch to Trump. Bernie trailed Hillary throughout while Warren is leading. Biden is boring safe pair of hands.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2019, 03:24:20 AM »
Hillary goes bazooka on Tulsi Gabbard.

Hillary Clinton hints Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard as third-party candidate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/hillary-clinton-hints-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-as-third-party-candidate
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2019, 03:27:07 AM »
Gabbard  fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.



https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Dear Mami

  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 1493
  • Reputation: 643
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2019, 11:30:45 AM »
Hillary goes bazooka on Tulsi Gabbard.

Hillary Clinton hints Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard as third-party candidate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/hillary-clinton-hints-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-as-third-party-candidate

What an idiot. This woman is quite possibly responsible for murder and a ton of corrupt deals she strung while her hubby was prezzo and even while she was working for Obama. She should shut up and go away. As bad as Trump is, I consider her worse. She was dangerously escalating things with Russia when she thought she was gonna be president and she's responsible for the mess in Libya.

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2019, 02:47:09 PM »
It's possibly a ploy to aid the Gabbard campaign.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 8783
  • Reputation: 106254
  • An oryctolagus cuniculus is feeding on my couch
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2019, 04:41:07 PM »
Gabbard  fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.



https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

Harriet Tubman

Offline Dear Mami

  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 1493
  • Reputation: 643
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2019, 05:47:33 PM »
Gabbard  fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.



https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
Hillary is not a conspiracy nut, just a plain old liar. Tucker is anti-war, so he's fair to Tulsi, because that's her whole thing: regime-change wars. She goes on everyone's show because she's been treated horribly by the mainstream media. I've seen how they interview her and its disgraceful. Tucker is the only one who lets her talk, and that's only because he has become anti-war. The others started their anti-Tulsi stuff because she dared visit Syria and tell things as they were, and did not cave to the pressure to pretend Assad was an enemy of the U.S. The Russia thing is ridiculous. Even Trump is not a Russian puppet. I don't know how this stuff became acceptable talking points in the DNC but it's a bad look.

Offline Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 8783
  • Reputation: 106254
  • An oryctolagus cuniculus is feeding on my couch
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2019, 06:58:30 PM »
Gabbard  fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.



https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
Hillary is not a conspiracy nut, just a plain old liar. Tucker is anti-war, so he's fair to Tulsi, because that's her whole thing: regime-change wars. She goes on everyone's show because she's been treated horribly by the mainstream media. I've seen how they interview her and its disgraceful. Tucker is the only one who lets her talk, and that's only because he has become anti-war. The others started their anti-Tulsi stuff because she dared visit Syria and tell things as they were, and did not cave to the pressure to pretend Assad was an enemy of the U.S. The Russia thing is ridiculous. Even Trump is not a Russian puppet. I don't know how this stuff became acceptable talking points in the DNC but it's a bad look.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

Harriet Tubman

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2019, 11:48:56 PM »
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2019, 11:52:32 PM »

PUBLISHED TUE, OCT 15 201911:33 AM EDTUPDATED TUE, OCT 15 20195:55 PM EDT

Quote
KEY POINTS
  • Three models show Trump getting at least 289 electoral votes and as many as 351, assuming average turnout.




https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/moodys-trump-on-his-way-to-an-easy-2020-win-if-economy-holds-up.html
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2019, 12:12:46 AM »
Not good
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Georgesoros

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 4656
  • Reputation: 7043
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2019, 12:53:34 AM »
I see the moron winning 2020 easy.



I work in the healthcare system, and I dont see any evidence of the "nailing".

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2019, 05:26:52 AM »
Beto drops off. I never got how the senate loser is ripe for the WH


♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2019, 01:11:13 AM »
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 8783
  • Reputation: 106254
  • An oryctolagus cuniculus is feeding on my couch
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2019, 05:06:38 PM »
Enter Mike the Bloomberg

I can't put a finger on Bloomberg's designs.  But he could be more scared of an Elizabeth Warren than 4 more years of what would be an even more unhinged Trump
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

Harriet Tubman

Offline Georgesoros

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 4656
  • Reputation: 7043
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2019, 04:57:48 AM »
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
Mike is there to run ads and try to drown Trumps big mouth, not win.

Offline Kadudu

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 4441
  • Reputation: 1411
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2019, 02:25:23 PM »
Can a Jew become POTUS?

Enter Mike the Bloomberg

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2019, 03:12:13 PM »
Can a Jew become POTUS?

Enter Mike the Bloomberg

Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

Offline Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 8783
  • Reputation: 106254
  • An oryctolagus cuniculus is feeding on my couch
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2019, 07:50:06 PM »
Can a Jew become POTUS?

Enter Mike the Bloomberg

Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.

Warren would turn away a lot of conservative leaning independents.  This country is still overall more conservative than the small liberal leaning enclaves some of us find ourselves in.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

Harriet Tubman

Offline Nefertiti

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 11323
  • Reputation: 26106
  • Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Oop
Re: Trump is nailing the outrageous medical bills problem
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2019, 09:00:10 PM »
Can a Jew become POTUS?

Enter Mike the Bloomberg

Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.

Warren would turn away a lot of conservative leaning independents.  This country is still overall more conservative than the small liberal leaning enclaves some of us find ourselves in.

Only the turnout in swing states matters. Hillary couldn't get any of the fringe out. Old Biden is Hillary 2.0. Trump is not your conventional candidate.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels