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Ruto locks coast
« on: May 24, 2018, 08:42:56 AM »
It appears only lonely Joho and maybe two Mps are the last one in increasingly Luo party.From Lunga Lunga to Lamu...Ruto has overrun ODM.Unlike Kenyatta who was hard sell in Coast..Ruto is shoe in in coast.That leave the problematic Gusii as the next conquest and Ruto would be well on 40%...GEMA is top up.

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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 08:48:40 AM »
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2018, 09:49:19 AM »
Leave Pundit alone to continue dreaming. Kingi is not the Coast.

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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 09:55:44 AM »
All govenors bar johos.
Nearly all Mps and senators bar maybe Nassir son & one woman
All losers including Hassan Omar are in
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Amason-Kingi-dumps-Hassan-Joho--makes-peace-with-William-Ruto-/1056-4577012-sl31j0/index.html
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 09:57:27 AM »
I am not sure who is left - I can only name Joho & Nassir son & the woman who read the "Ruto is Evil Re-carnate" statement - both winners and losers of 2017 election are with Ruto. It complete take over. The Asian tycoons who use to back Raila - also left after August. Basically I am going to count down few months before Joho himself cross -over :) and shut the door for ODM in the coast. ODM is soon going to become Luo Party...and Raila will get 10% in 2022 :) Kalonzo 6%; MadVD 4% and Mutua 2%; Gideon 0.1% - and rest of the votes will go to Ruto basket....we are talking MOAS of 75% for Ruto against the rest at 25%.
Leave Pundit alone to continue dreaming. Kingi is not the Coast.

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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2018, 10:39:07 AM »
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 10:53:10 AM »
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 11:11:06 AM »
Yes - right in Entire MAA - only Ole Kina & Ledama are holding out :) Turkana yote iko ndani.Somali and Boranas wote ndani.Mijikenda and Bukusu are falling along nicely.The Mumias Wanga and such small luhya tribes of Kakamega are also one leg inside the tent. Ruto has done what he needed to do...Kick Raila's NDP trojan horse out of the former KANU zone...that gave Moi victory twice. If he keep at it - he can get to 40% without Uhuru :) - he can actually afford to ignore GEMA and get Kambas or Luhyas to top up to 50%. GEMA really need to grab the opportunity to become Ruto DPORK and ask for 50-50 because as entire Kenya move to Ruto column - they would become pretty irrelevant.

As regard Raila - he first he will have to quit deluding himself that Jubilee will welcome or allow his trojan horse. He can then work on another front - with him as King-maker of PK or someone like that - PK would get Muranga (1/3 of Kikuyus) excited - with such a deal - he could keep some non-luo votes in ODM because they really need see Raila gameplan back to power. Nobody is interested in staying in the cold for decades like Luos.
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.

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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2018, 01:18:56 AM »
Yeah. what we deserve is a PORK with a FREEHAND to run a 5-10yr Marshall Plan without the headaches of a coalition. I hope Ruto doesn't need a Kalonzo or Madvd "topup". DPORK should be the plain US VP not an "equal partner". With a clear mandate an ambitious guy like Ruto has a shot at potential transformation. Once a standard is set we are on a firm footing. So far I think despite the 7% growth under Kibaki the real standard we have is political freedom under NARC. But we are yet to see the payoff from the lack of stability in the infant democracy project. Ruto regime could just be the pilot.

A real democracy dividend cannot just be simple freedom but economic leaps. That's my hope for the coming Ruto years. The economy+political leadership savvy could even put brakes on the bareknuckle tribal voting we have now... as Luo and GEMA abandon useless PK and demigod Raila... to new Baba Ruto.

As for the parliamentary system. It's the inclusive but unstable NARA-esque model of insulting and quizzing the PM and GoK at bars and funerals. Which is good for an economically first world like the UK and Israel. A good joke in 2050 after two "Ruto" growth cycles... when Kenya rises to at least a RSA.


Yes - right in Entire MAA - only Ole Kina & Ledama are holding out :) Turkana yote iko ndani.Somali and Boranas wote ndani.Mijikenda and Bukusu are falling along nicely.The Mumias Wanga and such small luhya tribes of Kakamega are also one leg inside the tent. Ruto has done what he needed to do...Kick Raila's NDP trojan horse out of the former KANU zone...that gave Moi victory twice. If he keep at it - he can get to 40% without Uhuru :) - he can actually afford to ignore GEMA and get Kambas or Luhyas to top up to 50%. GEMA really need to grab the opportunity to become Ruto DPORK and ask for 50-50 because as entire Kenya move to Ruto column - they would become pretty irrelevant.

As regard Raila - he first he will have to quit deluding himself that Jubilee will welcome or allow his trojan horse. He can then work on another front - with him as King-maker of PK or someone like that - PK would get Muranga (1/3 of Kikuyus) excited - with such a deal - he could keep some non-luo votes in ODM because they really need see Raila gameplan back to power. Nobody is interested in staying in the cold for decades like Luos.
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2018, 04:57:08 PM »
I see you are now a proponent of dictatorship.  In a democracy, a leaders hands must be tied by the system of checks and balances. Ruto's hands are already tied in corruption anyway. Once a thief, always a thief. Ruto will never stop stealing and corruption is his Achilles heels.

Last but not least, one does not lock an election 4 years in advance. Between now and 2022, a lot is going to happen. Right now I urge every leader who is broke to go to Ruto, offer him support for 2022 and 2027 and squeeze our of him as much money as one can.

If  Ouru is looking for a great legacy, locking  Ruto up on corruption could earn him that.

Yeah. what we deserve is a PORK with a FREEHAND to run a 5-10yr Marshall Plan without the headaches of a coalition. I hope Ruto doesn't need a Kalonzo or Madvd "topup". DPORK should be the plain US VP not an "equal partner". With a clear mandate an ambitious guy like Ruto has a shot at potential transformation. Once a standard is set we are on a firm footing. So far I think despite the 7% growth under Kibaki the real standard we have is political freedom under NARC. But we are yet to see the payoff from the lack of stability in the infant democracy project. Ruto regime could just be the pilot.

A real democracy dividend cannot just be simple freedom but economic leaps. That's my hope for the coming Ruto years. The economy+political leadership savvy could even put brakes on the bareknuckle tribal voting we have now... as Luo and GEMA abandon useless PK and demigod Raila... to new Baba Ruto.

As for the parliamentary system. It's the inclusive but unstable NARA-esque model of insulting and quizzing the PM and GoK at bars and funerals. Which is good for an economically first world like the UK and Israel. A good joke in 2050 after two "Ruto" growth cycles... when Kenya rises to at least a RSA.


Yes - right in Entire MAA - only Ole Kina & Ledama are holding out :) Turkana yote iko ndani.Somali and Boranas wote ndani.Mijikenda and Bukusu are falling along nicely.The Mumias Wanga and such small luhya tribes of Kakamega are also one leg inside the tent. Ruto has done what he needed to do...Kick Raila's NDP trojan horse out of the former KANU zone...that gave Moi victory twice. If he keep at it - he can get to 40% without Uhuru :) - he can actually afford to ignore GEMA and get Kambas or Luhyas to top up to 50%. GEMA really need to grab the opportunity to become Ruto DPORK and ask for 50-50 because as entire Kenya move to Ruto column - they would become pretty irrelevant.

As regard Raila - he first he will have to quit deluding himself that Jubilee will welcome or allow his trojan horse. He can then work on another front - with him as King-maker of PK or someone like that - PK would get Muranga (1/3 of Kikuyus) excited - with such a deal - he could keep some non-luo votes in ODM because they really need see Raila gameplan back to power. Nobody is interested in staying in the cold for decades like Luos.
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 07:29:50 PM »
Hating on Ruto will not stop him from winning. I think Ruto's political mastery is another reality you will grapple with until he is sworn in. The way you insisted Kenyans are not diehard tribal for years. It's one thing to cry Ruto is corrupt - even as you support the super-corrupt dynasties - and another to dismiss his chance at PORK. He has engineered a mean machine - Jubilee - where he is the solo candidate. Raila's poor attempt to infiltrate Jubilee via Handshake points to this reality. Fighting Ruto from outside the system is hopeless.

I see you are now a proponent of dictatorship.  In a democracy, a leaders hands must be tied by the system of checks and balances. Ruto's hands are already tied in corruption anyway. Once a thief, always a thief. Ruto will never stop stealing and corruption is his Achilles heels.

Last but not least, one does not lock an election 4 years in advance. Between now and 2022, a lot is going to happen. Right now I urge every leader who is broke to go to Ruto, offer him support for 2022 and 2027 and squeeze our of him as much money as one can.

If  Ouru is looking for a great legacy, locking  Ruto up on corruption could earn him that.

Yeah. what we deserve is a PORK with a FREEHAND to run a 5-10yr Marshall Plan without the headaches of a coalition. I hope Ruto doesn't need a Kalonzo or Madvd "topup". DPORK should be the plain US VP not an "equal partner". With a clear mandate an ambitious guy like Ruto has a shot at potential transformation. Once a standard is set we are on a firm footing. So far I think despite the 7% growth under Kibaki the real standard we have is political freedom under NARC. But we are yet to see the payoff from the lack of stability in the infant democracy project. Ruto regime could just be the pilot.

A real democracy dividend cannot just be simple freedom but economic leaps. That's my hope for the coming Ruto years. The economy+political leadership savvy could even put brakes on the bareknuckle tribal voting we have now... as Luo and GEMA abandon useless PK and demigod Raila... to new Baba Ruto.

As for the parliamentary system. It's the inclusive but unstable NARA-esque model of insulting and quizzing the PM and GoK at bars and funerals. Which is good for an economically first world like the UK and Israel. A good joke in 2050 after two "Ruto" growth cycles... when Kenya rises to at least a RSA.


Yes - right in Entire MAA - only Ole Kina & Ledama are holding out :) Turkana yote iko ndani.Somali and Boranas wote ndani.Mijikenda and Bukusu are falling along nicely.The Mumias Wanga and such small luhya tribes of Kakamega are also one leg inside the tent. Ruto has done what he needed to do...Kick Raila's NDP trojan horse out of the former KANU zone...that gave Moi victory twice. If he keep at it - he can get to 40% without Uhuru :) - he can actually afford to ignore GEMA and get Kambas or Luhyas to top up to 50%. GEMA really need to grab the opportunity to become Ruto DPORK and ask for 50-50 because as entire Kenya move to Ruto column - they would become pretty irrelevant.

As regard Raila - he first he will have to quit deluding himself that Jubilee will welcome or allow his trojan horse. He can then work on another front - with him as King-maker of PK or someone like that - PK would get Muranga (1/3 of Kikuyus) excited - with such a deal - he could keep some non-luo votes in ODM because they really need see Raila gameplan back to power. Nobody is interested in staying in the cold for decades like Luos.
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.
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Re: Ruto locks coast
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 08:14:27 PM »
Loving him will not make him win either. Ruto is a thief and there is no other way to soften it. The evidence is overwhelming. He has worked for the government all his life and yet he is a billionaire on the meager government wages. His political machine which you are so boisterous about is therefore the fruit of a poisonous tree.  I am therefore strongly believe that he is incapable of leading this country based on the fact that corruption is one of the biggest problems in this country. I am therefore against his presidency, not because of hate but because of Ruto's huge insatiable appetite for corruption.

Hating on Ruto will not stop him from winning. I think Ruto's political mastery is another reality you will grapple with until he is sworn in. The way you insisted Kenyans are not diehard tribal for years. It's one thing to cry Ruto is corrupt - even as you support the super-corrupt dynasties - and another to dismiss his chance at PORK. He has engineered a mean machine - Jubilee - where he is the solo candidate. Raila's poor attempt to infiltrate Jubilee via Handshake points to this reality. Fighting Ruto from outside the system is hopeless.

I see you are now a proponent of dictatorship.  In a democracy, a leaders hands must be tied by the system of checks and balances. Ruto's hands are already tied in corruption anyway. Once a thief, always a thief. Ruto will never stop stealing and corruption is his Achilles heels.

Last but not least, one does not lock an election 4 years in advance. Between now and 2022, a lot is going to happen. Right now I urge every leader who is broke to go to Ruto, offer him support for 2022 and 2027 and squeeze our of him as much money as one can.

If  Ouru is looking for a great legacy, locking  Ruto up on corruption could earn him that.

Yeah. what we deserve is a PORK with a FREEHAND to run a 5-10yr Marshall Plan without the headaches of a coalition. I hope Ruto doesn't need a Kalonzo or Madvd "topup". DPORK should be the plain US VP not an "equal partner". With a clear mandate an ambitious guy like Ruto has a shot at potential transformation. Once a standard is set we are on a firm footing. So far I think despite the 7% growth under Kibaki the real standard we have is political freedom under NARC. But we are yet to see the payoff from the lack of stability in the infant democracy project. Ruto regime could just be the pilot.

A real democracy dividend cannot just be simple freedom but economic leaps. That's my hope for the coming Ruto years. The economy+political leadership savvy could even put brakes on the bareknuckle tribal voting we have now... as Luo and GEMA abandon useless PK and demigod Raila... to new Baba Ruto.

As for the parliamentary system. It's the inclusive but unstable NARA-esque model of insulting and quizzing the PM and GoK at bars and funerals. Which is good for an economically first world like the UK and Israel. A good joke in 2050 after two "Ruto" growth cycles... when Kenya rises to at least a RSA.


Yes - right in Entire MAA - only Ole Kina & Ledama are holding out :) Turkana yote iko ndani.Somali and Boranas wote ndani.Mijikenda and Bukusu are falling along nicely.The Mumias Wanga and such small luhya tribes of Kakamega are also one leg inside the tent. Ruto has done what he needed to do...Kick Raila's NDP trojan horse out of the former KANU zone...that gave Moi victory twice. If he keep at it - he can get to 40% without Uhuru :) - he can actually afford to ignore GEMA and get Kambas or Luhyas to top up to 50%. GEMA really need to grab the opportunity to become Ruto DPORK and ask for 50-50 because as entire Kenya move to Ruto column - they would become pretty irrelevant.

As regard Raila - he first he will have to quit deluding himself that Jubilee will welcome or allow his trojan horse. He can then work on another front - with him as King-maker of PK or someone like that - PK would get Muranga (1/3 of Kikuyus) excited - with such a deal - he could keep some non-luo votes in ODM because they really need see Raila gameplan back to power. Nobody is interested in staying in the cold for decades like Luos.
Ruto and Jubilee have swallowed ODM. It's basically NDP now. Both Minority Leaders are Luo. It's been a slow painful rout in MATUSA, Somali, Northern, Bukusu and now Mijikenda. Raila's only viable option is to work on a formidable anti-Ruto team as kingmaker. Cobble up likes of PK, Gidi, Madvd and other political deadwood. Pwagu hupata pwaguzi.

Of course Kichwa has nothing to say about this because it's too early to 2022. The official defect window is 6 months to the elections and these politicians have not formally written to Lucy the Registrar. It's just another Raila Kwisha pronouncement.
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