Of NASWA,Don Corleone,and Offers

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This must be the most memorable movie line; 'I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse'

NASWA is doing the exact opposite; making offers or seeking reliefs that can't be accepted

It is our hope that the truth will come out of the servers. That's where all results passed through to Bomas. #OpenTheServers

— The ODM Party (@TheODMparty) August 27, 2017

So everything now stands or falls on accessing the IEBC servers?
Means no access to these will condemn them to another round of 5yrs of whining about a stolen election.


Why can't IEBC accept this offer?
1. NASWA has accused them of algorithms and hacking all without accessing the servers. They even produced some logs to this effect.
2. Whatever audit they intend to conduct on these servers and KIEMS devices needs a reply by IEBC and even Uhuru being respondents. Is there time for this?
3.


Think up other reasons however fickle or strong they be but the demands are impossible to meet

[RV Pundit]

It plain simple. They made allegations in 25,000 pages  - IEBC and Jubilee - demolished every single allegation in their responses four days later. They know it cames short so they latch into these new straws.
1) Barcode from FORM 34A - are fake - after using some dodgy bar-code reader. Vooke here has demolished that evidence pro-borno.
2) We need to access all ICT systems - so we can find the algorithm

[vooke]

It plain simple. They made allegations in 25,000 pages  - IEBC and Jubilee - demolished every single allegation in their responses four days later. They know it cames short so they latch into these new straws.
1) Barcode from FORM 34A - are fake - after using some dodgy bar-code reader. Vooke here has demolished that evidence pro-borno.
2) We need to access all ICT systems - so we can find the algorithm

I think NASWA is busy looking for how to tarnish SCOK. Like that's the last face-saving resort.

Probable slogans for the next 5yrs of wilderness
'IEBC frustrated democracy by denying us access to the servers where the truth @'

'Had IEBC opened up the servers, the Petitin would have been concluded in just half a day'

'Chebuloba must go'

[RV Pundit]

Precisely.Poor IEBC and SCOK will bear the brunt of these embittered sore losers who cannot bring thesmelves to concede defeat like UhuRuto did in 2002 and recently in 2010.A gap of 1.5m is enough to humble many but Not Raila who feel he is entitled to pork.They won't learn any lessons and come 2022 the gap will be wider.Ruto looks set to go in with 60%.Isaac Hassan must be grinning ear to ear now....seeing the sore loser engage in the subterfuge.Its surreal.

[Nefertiti]

It's better to open the servers and let it go on record that Raila lost fairly. Denying them access is a bad precedent. It should be the practice for IEBC to avail all information publicly especially when there is a contest. With our indisputed history of rigging - from mlolongo BS, Matiba & Kibaki petitions dismissal on technicality, 2007 Nithi stuffing,  2013 shenanigans - the onus is still on IEBC and the courts to earn the public's trust. Right now everyone's belief is purely on politically leaning.

So allow all shenanigans - make Kenyans see the truth - don't leave the ball in the air.

[RV Pundit]

You can never satisfy Raila.If we open the systems we have to  discard them.That is billions gone down the drain and Raila will latch on next excuse.And judges have a weeke

.or=Robina link=topic=5326.msg40387#msg40387 date=1503852649
It's better to open the servers and let it go on record that Raila lost fairly. Denying them access is a bad precedent. It should be the practice for IEBC to avail all information publicly especially when there is a contest. With our indisputed history of rigging - from mlolongo BS, Matiba & Kibaki petitions dismissal on technicality, 2007 Nithi stuffing,  2013 shenanigans - the onus is still on IEBC and the courts to earn the public's trust. Right now everyone's belief is purely on politically leaning.

So allow all shenanigans - make Kenyans see the truth - don't leave the ball in the air.

[Nefertiti]

Let justice be done though the heavens fall - that's the judicial tenet. It's costlier if half the country does not trust the IEBC. Open the servers and reduce that to 20%. I am yet to be convinced of the rigging claims but am open to surprises. So unlike you I do want all shenanigans - manual forms review and IT audit. Democracy is expensive.

You can never satisfy Raila.If we open the systems we have to  discard them.That is billions gone down the drain and Raila will latch on next excuse.And judges have a weeke

.or=Robina link=topic=5326.msg40387#msg40387 date=1503852649
It's better to open the servers and let it go on record that Raila lost fairly. Denying them access is a bad precedent. It should be the practice for IEBC to avail all information publicly especially when there is a contest. With our indisputed history of rigging - from mlolongo BS, Matiba & Kibaki petitions dismissal on technicality, 2007 Nithi stuffing,  2013 shenanigans - the onus is still on IEBC and the courts to earn the public's trust. Right now everyone's belief is purely on politically leaning.

So allow all shenanigans - make Kenyans see the truth - don't leave the ball in the air.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

It's better to open the servers and let it go on record that Raila lost fairly. Denying them access is a bad precedent. It should be the practice for IEBC to avail all information publicly especially when there is a contest. With our indisputed history of rigging - from mlolongo BS, Matiba & Kibaki petitions dismissal on technicality, 2007 Nithi stuffing,  2013 shenanigans - the onus is still on IEBC and the courts to earn the public's trust. Right now everyone's belief is purely on politically leaning.

So allow all shenanigans - make Kenyans see the truth - don't leave the ball in the air.

A lot of money was spent on those systems.  Oodles.  But the emerging jubilant narrative is it doesn't matter whether we get anything from them or not.

[vooke]

Servers are an afterthought. Bear that in mind.
NASWA has been running on hacking claims and even server logs till they realized it's embarrassingly stupid.

NASWA wants more than mere logs; they want to procure their own experts to audit IEBC ICT. Like I mentioned, every gem they glean, IEBC needs to respond to it of course with their own experts. You I'll have an eternal back and forth in a finite 5 days. On the voter register, it took an independent audit by KPMG to establish its quality. Imagine the kind of audit report if it was carried out by NASWA

If the request was more pointed as Termie suggests, I think it would be totally unreasonable denying them. And same case applies to forms 34A. It is highly unreasonable expecting anyone to interrogated 40K documents in 1hr. This would take over a day depending on the resources employed. Remember the court would be supervising, as well as the respondents.