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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2017, 07:14:31 PM »
You are still pursuing your retarded thinking? I asked for evidence of the timeline. So far I have not obtained it. In the world of propaganda, one can easily get a goon to advance the "provocation" defense on TV.

My opinion on the issue is irrelevant to the FACT that hecklers in Baringo attributed their behavior (which I condemn) to Kisumu.

Omorlo being the moron he is attempted to dispute that Baringo followed and was caused/triggered by Kisumu. All I did was to provide evidence to this effect.

On Thika, I took the fact that Baba toured the town and Kiambu without any incidence before Kisumu to mean that the sudden violence/intolerance must have been a spillover from Kisumu.

Once again, your or my opinion on provocation is irrelevant to the facts
Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM »
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2017, 08:32:42 PM »
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2017, 02:08:26 AM »
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
i simply asked for evidence that proves kisumu started then others. The burden of proof doesn't lie with me: onus probandi
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2017, 09:09:36 AM »
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
i simply asked for evidence that proves kisumu started then others. The burden of proof doesn't lie with me: onus probandi
The EARLIEST report of Ruto heckling in Kisumu

The EARLIEST report of Babu getting heckled in Baringo. Follow the FB link and see the pictures. The comments are quite interesting because some attribute the hostility to Kisumu

Study the comments. So we have an NTV clip with Baringo rioters blaming Kisumu, and you have comments to the effect that Kisumu preceded Baringo and CAUSED it.

Now, continue playing obtuse which you do effortlessly
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2017, 08:24:16 PM »
Thanks for your evidence. Not sure how to tell that was the first tweet or news item or report of the incident. How did you determine that it was or is the first? Is there some service that ranks them or that is the earliest YOU were able to find? Don't worry even the best of scholars make that error. Don't we know from before that Europeans used to teach our grandfathers that "the first man to see Mt. Kilimanjaro was Speke"?

Am not sure the comments about kisumu heckling say anything about the timeline.

Not that for me I don't know why it would be better for Ruto if it started in Baringo or kisumu. The story below shows it wasn't Uhuru who was targeted. It was Ruto.

Now if he was heckled in Kisumu by Jubilee supporters is it not just falling well in the recent events? He has been jeered in multiple places in Rift Valley where Uhuru has been accepted.

Why would I not say it's a Jubilee problem. The boys who jeer Ruto are wearing jubilee regalia. They're inside jubilee. They then display the same behavior as we have seen in many places. I mean I would be more surprised if Ruto was NOT jeered than if he is.

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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2017, 08:55:46 PM »
Vooke - just give up - Omollo will twist and fabricate facts - he simply lacks the honour to admit a mistake. The heckling & violence started in Kisumu.

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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2017, 09:28:39 PM »
Vooke - just give up - Omollo will twist and fabricate facts - he simply lacks the honour to admit a mistake. The heckling & violence started in Kisumu.
... and you base that one what fact?
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2017, 09:29:12 AM »
On the simple fact that Uhuru was in Kisumu early morning (he had to open IAAF u18 championship in Nairobi late that afternoon so was in Mbita by 8am) and Railla in Baringo in the afternoon. Stop being a moron. If you can help it. And Raila had been to Baringo & Kiambu before without incident - you had pictures even declaring Baringo a NASA stronghold :).

In short Kisumu started it  -  and should end it.

... and you base that one what fact?

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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2017, 09:21:13 PM »
Thanks for your evidence. Not sure how to tell that was the first tweet or news item or report of the incident. How did you determine that it was or is the first? Is there some service that ranks them or that is the earliest YOU were able to find? Don't worry even the best of scholars make that error. Don't we know from before that Europeans used to teach our grandfathers that "the first man to see Mt. Kilimanjaro was Speke"?

Am not sure the comments about kisumu heckling say anything about the timeline.

Not that for me I don't know why it would be better for Ruto if it started in Baringo or kisumu. The story below shows it wasn't Uhuru who was targeted. It was Ruto.

Now if he was heckled in Kisumu by Jubilee supporters is it not just falling well in the recent events? He has been jeered in multiple places in Rift Valley where Uhuru has been accepted.

Why would I not say it's a Jubilee problem. The boys who jeer Ruto are wearing jubilee regalia. They're inside jubilee. They then display the same behavior as we have seen in many places. I mean I would be more surprised if Ruto was NOT jeered than if he is.

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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2017, 10:04:33 PM »
I simply asked you how you determined that that was the first tweet. You can just share your method. If it worked for you, it would work for anybody else - basic research.

Then remember:  Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat
Google is a wonderful tool. If you can get me an earlier tweet of Facebook post or YouTube clip contradicting me, I will honorably bow out
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2017, 11:17:20 PM »
I simply asked you how you determined that that was the first tweet. You can just share your method. If it worked for you, it would work for anybody else - basic research.

Then remember:  Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat
Google is a wonderful tool. If you can get me an earlier tweet of Facebook post or YouTube clip contradicting me, I will honorably bow out
And I simply asked you to disproof

But all this is irrelevant. Babu will lose, refuse to go to court,go to court, lose, and die trying
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Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2017, 11:43:17 AM »
Now all can see why I say you lack the intellectual gravitas to engage in a civilized debate and have the intelligence of a retard. Feel free to demand that I prove what I have just written.

And I simply asked you to disproof

But all this is irrelevant. Babu will lose, refuse to go to court,go to court, lose, and die trying
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread