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Should Protestants heed the pope's call to unity?
« on: June 12, 2015, 12:08:50 PM »

Francis has made the call for Christian unity one of the main missions of his papacy, and has reached out to Christians from different denominations on a number of occasions.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-says-the-devil-is-keeping-evangelicals-and-catholics-divided-we-are-one-it-is-he-whos-persecuting-christians-today-139564/

The question is, should Protestants respond to this call? How should they do so and remain who they claim to be?

http://www.spiritwatch.org/catchron4.htm

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Although many of these beliefs were practiced earlier than the dates given, they did not become binding on all Catholics until they were officially adopted by church councils and proclaimed by the Pope as dogmas of faith. All dates are approximate.

1. Presbyter (or elders) were first called priests by Lucian...2nd century.
2. Prayers for the dead...A.D. 300.
3. The VENERATION of angels and dead saints and the use of images...375.
4. The Mass as a daily celebration was adopted...394.
5. The beginning of the exaltation of Mary, and the first use of the term "Mother of God" by the Council of Ephesus...431.
6. Priests began to dress different from the laity and to wear special clothes...500.
7. Extreme Unction  ...526.
8. The doctrine of purgatory was first established by Gregory the
Great...593.
9. Prayers began to be offered to Mary, dead saints, and angels...600.
10. The first man was proclaimed "Pope" (Boniface III)...610.
11. Veneration of the cross, images, and relics authorized...788.
12. Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest was authorized in...850.
13. Veneration of Saint Joseph...890.
14. College of cardinals begun...927.
15. Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV...995.
16. The Mass developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance was made obligatory in...11th century.
17. The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII...1079.
18. The rosary, or prayer beads copied from Hindus and Mohammadans) was introduced by Peter the Hermit...1090.
19. The Inquisition (2) of "Heretics" was instituted by the Council of Verona...1184, and was legalized and promoted by the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215.
20. The sale of Indulgences...1190.
21. The seven sacraments defined by Peter Lombard...12th century.
22. The dogma of transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III ...1215.
23. Confession of sins to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III in the Lateran Council...1215.
24. The adoration of the wafer (host) decreed by Pope Honorius III ...1220.
25. The scapular  invented by Simon Stock of England...1251.
26. The doctrine of purgatory proclaimed a dogma by the Council of Florence...1439.
27. Tradition is declared of equal authority with the Bible by the Council Trent...1546.
28. The Apocryphal Books were added to the Bible by the Council of Trent...1545.
29. The Immaculate Conception  of Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1854.
30. Pope Pius IX condemns all scientific discoveries not approved by by the Roman Church...1864.
31. Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals proclaimed by the First Vatican Council...1870.
32. Pius XI condemned the public schools...1930.
33. Pius XI reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "The Mother of God" ...1931.
34. The dogma of the Assumption  of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII...1950.
35. Mary proclaimed the Mother of the Church by Pope Paul VI...1965.

"The document on the Church repeats in substance the teaching of the Council of Trent that `priests and bishops are the representatives of God on earth...justly, therefore, they are called not only angels, but gods, holding as they do the place of authority of God on earth.' (Catechism of Trent).





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Re: Should Protestants heed the pope's call to unity?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2015, 09:33:05 AM »
The best person to answer that should be Adventists themselves. See how they are faring in their ecumenical strides all by themselves minus Rome
https://1888.org/pdf/1429556831-sda-church-take-gigantic-ecumenical-leap.pdf

So what happens when an SDA comes across a dying Muslim?

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ISLAMIC EMERGENCY MINISTRATION
If a dying person desires religious ministry repeat with him/her the following:
1. The Allah Ekber. "There is not god but Allah, Muhammad is God's apostle."

2. The Al-Fatihad. "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgement; Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek. Show us the straight way, the way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy grace, those whose position is not wrath, and who go not astray."

3. The At-Tauhid. In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say: He is God, the One! God, the eternally besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begoten. And there is none comparable unto Him.

4. The An-Nas. "In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, the King of mankind, the God of mankind, from the evil of th esneaking whisperer, who whispereth in the hearts of mankind, of the jinn, and of mankind."
Following the above passages from the Koran, the person's mouth is to be moistened with water. In the event of death an iman (a Muslim worship leader) must be sumoned to perform the ritual washings and wrappings to prepare the body for burial.

In short, I have no idea why you are training your guns on Babylon instead of your own sewers
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Should Protestants heed the pope's call to unity?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 03:49:30 PM »
http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2015/06/22/pope-francis-asks-pardon-from-waldensian-protestants-for-past-persecution/

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Bowing at the altar of persecution, Reuters is echoing official figures of those killed as if to rewrite history. Thankfully other sources have a say too.

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For example, it has been estimated by careful and reputed historians of the Catholic Inquisition that 50 million people were slaughtered for the crime of "heresy" by Roman persecutors between the A.D. 606 and the middle of the 19th century.
This is the number cited by John Dowling, who published the classic "History of Romanism" in 1847 (book VIII, chapter 1, footnote 1). Only seven years after its first printing, it could be said of Dowling's book, "it has already obtained a circulation much more extensive than any other large volume ever published in America, upon the subject of which it treats; or perhaps in England, with the exception of Fox's Book of Martyrs." Clark's Martyrology counts the number of Waldensian martyrs during the first half of the 13th century in France alone at two million. From A.D. 1160-1560 the Waldensians which dwelt in the Italian Alps were visited with 36 different fierce persecutions that spared neither age nor sex (Thomas Armitage, A History of the Baptists, "Post-Apostolic Times - The Waldensians," 1890). They were almost completely destroyed as a people and most of their literary record was erased from the face of the earth. From the year 1540 to 1570 "it is proved by national authentic testimony, that nearly one million of Protestants were publicly put to death in various countries in Europe, besides all those who were privately destroyed, and of whom no human record exists" (J.P. Callender, Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p. 400). Catholic historian Vergerius admits gleefully that during the Pontificate of Pope Paul IV (1555-1559) "the Inquisition alone, by tortures, starvation, or the fire, murdered more than 150,000 Protestants." These are only small samples of the brutality which was poured out upon "dissident" Christians by the Roman Catholic Church during the Inquisition.

Rome does not change. Rome can and should apologize, but a mere apology is not good enough, especially if in the same breath it attempts to water down the enormity of its crimes against humanity and disappears a significant number of those it is responsible for killing.
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Re: Should Protestants heed the pope's call to unity?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 05:59:38 PM »
A small update for the sake of the false prophet especially. First, for the pope to ask for forgiveness from the Waldensians, it shows he knows what Rome did to that community of believers. Second, he expected forgiveness. Well, let's see how the Waldensians responded.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.co.ke/2015/08/waldensians-reject-popes-apology-we.html

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Re: Should Protestants heed the pope's call to unity?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 04:09:33 PM »
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