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Offline Nowayhaha

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Im not emotional why should I , Im in the mix of the politics have information of the happenings. I personally want  Gachaguas impeachment to stand inorder to further weaken Ruto .
I told you Gachagua wont resign , He will fight let them go through the whole process and try to use courts .
I have also told you Mt Kenya will have their party and Kingpin (not Gachagua not Muhoho )
I have told tou Raila will run in 2027.
I have told you Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2.
I have told you there will be a re-run in 2027
Whatever I have said is happening . Example there is a big shift of Bukusu away from Ruto , its to be seen if Wetangula will follow them .

I see. These are more probable yes - especially if courts don't save Riggy G. Noway is quite emotional - which is reflective of present GEMA anger at Ruto.

Offline RV Pundit

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You are telling as WHO :)
Oracle?
Orkoiyot?
Laibon?
Foreteller?
Mganga?
We want to see your reasoning boss
Or the reasoning behind the scenes.
Im not emotional why should I , Im in the mix of the politics have information of the happenings. I personally want  Gachaguas impeachment to stand inorder to further weaken Ruto .
I told you Gachagua wont resign , He will fight let them go through the whole process and try to use courts .
I have also told you Mt Kenya will have their party and Kingpin (not Gachagua not Muhoho )
I have told tou Raila will run in 2027.
I have told you Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2.
I have told you there will be a re-run in 2027
Whatever I have said is happening . Example there is a big shift of Bukusu away from Ruto , its to be seen if Wetangula will follow them .

I see. These are more probable yes - especially if courts don't save Riggy G. Noway is quite emotional - which is reflective of present GEMA anger at Ruto.

Offline gout

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These wakoras have naively overrated themselves living in bubbles of paradise forever. We also overrate the scum too much, they are not that half wise.

I keep hearing 'Kenya ukiwa na pesa hakuna pahali utapelekwa'. 'Hawewezi kosana ni raia wanachezea'.

Yet the evidence on murders, betrayal, treachery, backstabbing keeps piling daily.

Move which monies abroad- he was just renovating dead Treetops to compete with Weston, Safaripark for Tenders 😁😁😁
 
Gachugua's sons are weird to me. I was watching them and one looked so scared that I thought He'd pass out and then the other started crying and his mother had to go and console him (& I think this is what made her start crying -- seeing her son)

Politicians in Africa have to start teaching their children how to becomes gangsta's just like them because in Africa, you just never know what will happen.

The other thing I hope gachagua has done is move his money out of the country. They should also teach their kids how to manage their stolen money and hide it.

If I were gachagua's son's the first year my father was in office, I'd be looking to move the loot and also looking for a house in a place like cape town or the cayman island or seychelles (just in case)
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

Offline Fairandbalanced

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You guys are not factoring genz, the majority of voters in Kenya. This group hates Ruto with a passion and this is Kenyanwide, whoever catches fire with this group is the next president in Kenya. If I have to swallow my pride and go tribal, the Mt Kenya division by Ruto seems to have backfired, Majority of Merus do not seem to care for Kindiki so that constituency remains intact. The other thing is that Ruto has managed to do the impossible, unite Mt Kenya with Kambas and Kisiis, it’s actually a surprising turn of events. It’s also very predictable just like death that Raila will run in 2027, he is very busy sucking Ruto’s money and building a war chest so his ODM base will mostly stay intact. If you look at all these, the route for Ruto winning 2027 is very murky, he will be at best a kingmaker and negotiate to stay out of jail and keep his wealth, that can be promised but not guaranteed. I see a second round between Kalonzo and Raila, in this contest, looking at the numbers, Kalonzo wins by a very slight margin.

Offline Georgesoros

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the future is gen Z not Raila et al.
I see Moi's style of leadership  has creeped back to Kenya.

Offline sema

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No 1 - never involve your kids in corrupt deals - sasa hawa they have a date with EACC and DCIs - because they handle lot of KEMSA and Hotel deals.

Then how else can you protect your stolen wealth? Gachagua's kids are men in their thirties. They're not children. At some point, in order to protect yourself, you have to hire bankers that can hide your loot and at those meetings, your adult children shouuld be there with you because if anything happens to you, how will they survive in Africa with no money?

I'm stunned by the number of corrupt kenyan politicians that put all their eggs in that sh*thole country and don't think anything can happen to them.

Offline Nowayhaha

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You capture correctly about uniting GEMA with Akamba and Kisiis , for Kisiis it was a given they blame Ruto for PEV .
Now prior to 2007 GEMA used to be split  in 1990s between Matiba and Kibaki and in early 2000s between Kibaki and Uhuru .
Raila managed to Unite GEMA in 2005 and from there they have used their number majestically in any contest they have been . Winning 2007 elections , 2010 Referendum, 2013, 2017 and 2022 elections . Now with Ruto backstabbing and betraying GEMA and Raila doing the same twice on Kalonzo they are one and united . That one will be a hard one to beat . They only need kisiis and North Eastern and they are home and dry .
Let the referendum come waoneshwe kivumbi tena .

You guys are not factoring genz, the majority of voters in Kenya. This group hates Ruto with a passion and this is Kenyanwide, whoever catches fire with this group is the next president in Kenya. If I have to swallow my pride and go tribal, the Mt Kenya division by Ruto seems to have backfired, Majority of Merus do not seem to care for Kindiki so that constituency remains intact. The other thing is that Ruto has managed to do the impossible, unite Mt Kenya with Kambas and Kisiis, it’s actually a surprising turn of events. It’s also very predictable just like death that Raila will run in 2027, he is very busy sucking Ruto’s money and building a war chest so his ODM base will mostly stay intact. If you look at all these, the route for Ruto winning 2027 is very murky, he will be at best a kingmaker and negotiate to stay out of jail and keep his wealth, that can be promised but not guaranteed. I see a second round between Kalonzo and Raila, in this contest, looking at the numbers, Kalonzo wins by a very slight margin.

Offline Georgesoros

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Lets adopt Swiss style of govt.
The system has failed Kenya since 1963.
You guys keep repeating the same crap over and over meanwhile 60% youth remain unemployed.
Do away with Parliament in favor of referendums.
They can meet four times a year to pass bills but major stuff referendum

Offline Nefertiti

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Something tells me Kikuyus would be whining even louder under Raila Odinga or Kalonzo Musyoka. They would squirm under any system provided they are not on top. When you are used to privilege fairness feels like discrimination.
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No one is whining, asking for good governance, less corruption etc and Kenyan assets to not be sold to crooked characters is not whining. Telling Ruto to stop overtaxing or reduce taxes to spur growth is not whining. Telling the government to stop abductions and executions is not whining and always remember, when you look away, the same things will be done to you in the future. My ticket is Kalonzo/ Matiangi but Kikuyus should run under the umbrella of a united party like Jubilee or DP.

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Not really , GEMA learnt the hardway under Uhuru that a President being in power means nothing .
The main reason they voted for Ruto . Kalenjins are learning the hardway now that for sure it means nothing .
If you check the Genz marches it was rampant in Kalenjin zones , Even With this impeachment substantial number are not happy with it .
Kenyans i general are starting to learn we are not in 60708090 eras where when your tribe was in power meant a gain here and there.
Gachagua went from being no one in August to the most popular politician in Kenya . Similar to Railas transformation in 2003 , simply because of sympathy and Ruto cant tackle him politically , NIS have warned him . Even Raila cannot attack Gachagua he is sending Omillo and Orengo to do the dirty working pretending to be advocates.
For the record I want Gachagua to be impeached in order to make sure Ruto has no survival chances in 2027 and especially in Mt Kenya .
Gachagua being Rutos poodle might reconcile with him . Learning point from Kalonzo and Raila in 2013 elections after bitter fallout in 2007 .

Something tells me Kikuyus would be whining even louder under Raila Odinga or Kalonzo Musyoka. They would squirm under any system provided they are not on top. When you are used to privilege fairness feels like discrimination.

Offline KenyanPlato

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Kikuyus will vote for a devil to punish ruto. Wait for 2027

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Something tells me Kikuyus would be whining even louder under Raila Odinga or Kalonzo Musyoka. They would squirm under any system provided they are not on top. When you are used to privilege fairness feels like discrimination.