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GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« on: October 07, 2020, 01:12:05 PM »
You read it here first. The unabated run-ins with Uhuru over the past 2 years have cast Mobutu's dye in the mountain. Cap it now with the bareknuckles at Pangani. Approximately a handful of diehard Tangatanga MPs back Mobutu today in Kikuyuland. Murang'a 2. Kiambu 2. Nyeri 2. Laikipia 2. Nyandarua 2.

This reality will be laid bare in the just nullied Gatundu North seat. If a by-election is held, all hullabaloo about hustler nation and "Mobutu has ground" will be swiftly abandoned and Mobutu will not show up. Nyoro, Kuria, Ichung'wa and Wahome will swear allegiance to Prince Uhuru and there will be no mention of Jubilee Asili nor hustler party - and definitely no anti-Uhuru party or candidate will be anywhere on the map.
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 01:17:23 PM »
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 01:53:27 PM »
Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .

County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 03:11:56 PM »
This is more like 2013 when Raila had 5 kalenjin minister, maybe 10 ass ministers and some mps - and still got nill. The ground is important. Ruto I believe has majority of GEMA mps - including those underground. Kieleweke only has 25 mps ncluding senators.
You read it here first. The unabated run-ins with Uhuru over the past 2 years have cast Mobutu's dye in the mountain. Cap it now with the bareknuckles at Pangani. Approximately a handful of diehard Tangatanga MPs back Mobutu today in Kikuyuland. Murang'a 2. Kiambu 2. Nyeri 2. Laikipia 2. Nyandarua 2.

This reality will be laid bare in the just nullied Gatundu North seat. If a by-election is held, all hullabaloo about hustler nation and "Mobutu has ground" will be swiftly abandoned and Mobutu will not show up. Nyoro, Kuria, Ichung'wa and Wahome will swear allegiance to Prince Uhuru and there will be no mention of Jubilee Asili nor hustler party - and definitely no anti-Uhuru party or candidate will be anywhere on the map.

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 03:33:31 PM »
What a waste of time. Kenya stopped being a dejure democracy in 2007 when Kibaki stole the elections from RAO and then Ouru/Ruto did the same in 2013 and 2017. I get bored when people talk as if the next president of Kenya will be elected by popular vote.  Ouru and Raila already have what they need to rule Kenya-the peoples tacit approval.  The supreme court ordered ouru to dissolve the parliament and he simply ignored them.  Ouru is already ruling the country through the military and folks are talking about elections. What elections?

This is more like 2013 when Raila had 5 kalenjin minister, maybe 10 ass ministers and some mps - and still got nill. The ground is important. Ruto I believe has majority of GEMA mps - including those underground. Kieleweke only has 25 mps ncluding senators.
You read it here first. The unabated run-ins with Uhuru over the past 2 years have cast Mobutu's dye in the mountain. Cap it now with the bareknuckles at Pangani. Approximately a handful of diehard Tangatanga MPs back Mobutu today in Kikuyuland. Murang'a 2. Kiambu 2. Nyeri 2. Laikipia 2. Nyandarua 2.

This reality will be laid bare in the just nullied Gatundu North seat. If a by-election is held, all hullabaloo about hustler nation and "Mobutu has ground" will be swiftly abandoned and Mobutu will not show up. Nyoro, Kuria, Ichung'wa and Wahome will swear allegiance to Prince Uhuru and there will be no mention of Jubilee Asili nor hustler party - and definitely no anti-Uhuru party or candidate will be anywhere on the map.
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2020, 03:39:23 PM »
Pundit cheered here when Uhuruto broke every rule in the book to get themselves back into power. Pundit was high on Bomas Power when Maraga nullified the 2017 election. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2020, 03:58:58 PM »
Tortured argument- MP high churn rate has nothing to do with party or factions - it is universal. Moses Kuria or Wuchomba might not come back and that is unrelated to Uhuruto manenos.


Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .

County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2020, 04:03:45 PM »
Pundit is delusional like US liberals. Uhuru and Raila should follow the law - but Mobutu open bribery is chess. There is nowhere Tangatanga has done well without ukora - save maybe Baringo - bribing voters and/or buying out ODM candidates to defect. Even in Msambweni the Bader guy was ODM and bought for few pieces of silver. The most shameless buyout was 2016 Jubilee launch.

If Mobutu observed the rules, he would lose fair and square to Raila in a clean game. But he is entitled to impunity so expect tunaonewa whining next 2 years.

Pundit cheered here when Uhuruto broke every rule in the book to get themselves back into power. Pundit was high on Bomas Power when Maraga nullified the 2017 election. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2020, 04:18:12 PM »
I am yet to be convinced of 2017 general elections rigging - but the primaries were usual shenanigans. Kideros bought the ticket; Joho imposed the entire ODM lineup in Mombasa. Jubilee was a joke in most Kikuyu areas - it is how we coined it 1988 KANU mlolongo where DO as returning officer would declare the winner as the loser. 3 years later Kenya resumed multipartyism. Mobutu spent billions at the Jubilee carnivore - now it akin to a warzone - cause the tuko pamaoja nonsense was quicksand.

Pundit cheered here when Uhuruto broke every rule in the book to get themselves back into power. Pundit was high on Bomas Power when Maraga nullified the 2017 election. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2020, 04:40:06 PM »
Mobutu has 15 MPs in entire GEMA - thanks to the war of attrition. Kieleweke were 10 2 years ago - but the exodus of Ann Waiguru, Cate Waruguru, Sara Korere, Kanini Kega, Sabina Chege, name it. MCAs are the worst - Kiambu raised 2/3 to sack Waititu; Laikipia they defected en masse to Handshake. Nairobi new speaker was unopposed in BBI lineup. ODM Majiwa got deputy speaker unopposed. Not even a whiff of Tangatanga.

Here are the Laikipia defectors few days before Waruguru
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=8442.0

This is more like 2013 when Raila had 5 kalenjin minister, maybe 10 ass ministers and some mps - and still got nill. The ground is important. Ruto I believe has majority of GEMA mps - including those underground. Kieleweke only has 25 mps ncluding senators.
You read it here first. The unabated run-ins with Uhuru over the past 2 years have cast Mobutu's dye in the mountain. Cap it now with the bareknuckles at Pangani. Approximately a handful of diehard Tangatanga MPs back Mobutu today in Kikuyuland. Murang'a 2. Kiambu 2. Nyeri 2. Laikipia 2. Nyandarua 2.

This reality will be laid bare in the just nullied Gatundu North seat. If a by-election is held, all hullabaloo about hustler nation and "Mobutu has ground" will be swiftly abandoned and Mobutu will not show up. Nyoro, Kuria, Ichung'wa and Wahome will swear allegiance to Prince Uhuru and there will be no mention of Jubilee Asili nor hustler party - and definitely no anti-Uhuru party or candidate will be anywhere on the map.
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2020, 04:43:14 PM »
Kirinyaga MPs long dumped hustler
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=8428.0
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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2020, 05:46:29 PM »
As for NYANDARUA out of 6 MPs only 1 managed to make it back representing 16% come back rate.

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.               MP 2017
KINANGOP.          STEPHEN MBURU.    ZACHARY THUKU
KIPIPIRI.             SAMUEL GICHIGI.      AMOS KIMUNYA
OL KALOU.           DAVID KIARAHO        DAVID KIARAHO
OL JOROK.         JM WAIGANJO.            MICHAEL  MUCHIRA
NDARAGWA.       FRANCIS NDERITU.     JEREMIAH  KIONI
NYANDARUA.      WANJIKU MUHIA.        FAITH GITAU


As for KIRINYAGA OUT OF 5 MPS 0 Made it back representing a come back rate of 0%
 CONSTITUENCY.    MP 2013               MP 2017
MWEA.                   PETER GITAU.        JOSPHAT WACHIRA
GICHUNGU.            NJOGU BARUA.       ROBERT. GITHINJI
NDIA.                     STEPHEN NGARE.     GEORGE KARIUKI
KIRINYAGA CENTRAL.   JOSEPH GITARI.    JOHN WAMBUGU
KIRINYAGA.                WINNIE NJUGUNA     PURITY NGIRICI


As for NYERI out of 7 MPs only one managed to make it back , a come back rate of 14%

CONSTITUENCY        MP 2013.              MP 2017
TETU.              NDUNGU GITHINJI.        JAMES GACHUHI MWANGI
KIENI.             KANINI KEGA.                KANINI KEGA
MATHIRA.         PETER WERU.                RIGATHI GACHAGUA
OTHAYA.          MARY WAMBUI.              JAMES MUGAMBI
MUKURWEINI.   KABANDO KABANDO.     ANTONY KIAI.   
NYERI TOWN.     ESTHER MURUGI.          NGUNJIRI WAMBUGU
NYERI.             PRISCILLA KANYUA.          RAHAB MUKAMI
 Next is KIRINYAGA

Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .


County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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As for MURANGA out of 8 MPS Only 2 managed to make it back representing 25% comeback rate

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.      MP 2017
KANGEMA.            TIRUS NGAHU.    MUTURI KIGANO
KIHARU.               IRUNGU KANGATA.   NDINDI NYORO
MATHIOYA.            CLEMENT WAMBUGU.   PETER KIMARI
KIGUMO.               JAMLECK KAMAU.        .RUTH MWANIKI
KANDARA.             ALICE WAHOME.           ALICE WAHOME
MARAGWA.            PETER KAMANDE MWANGI MARY WAITHERA
GATANGA.              HUMPHREY KIMANI NJUGUNA.    JOSEPH NDUATI
MURANGA.              SABINA CHEGE.            SABINA CHEGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2020, 06:40:47 PM »
That was a rout - that they blamed on Ruto :) and next one will be even brutal.
As for NYANDARUA out of 6 MPs only 1 managed to make it back representing 16% come back rate.

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.               MP 2017
KINANGOP.          STEPHEN MBURU.    ZACHARY THUKU
KIPIPIRI.             SAMUEL GICHIGI.      AMOS KIMUNYA
OL KALOU.           DAVID KIARAHO        DAVID KIARAHO
OL JOROK.         JM WAIGANJO.            MICHAEL  MUCHIRA
NDARAGWA.       FRANCIS NDERITU.     JEREMIAH  KIONI
NYANDARUA.      WANJIKU MUHIA.        FAITH GITAU


As for KIRINYAGA OUT OF 5 MPS 0 Made it back representing a come back rate of 0%
 CONSTITUENCY.    MP 2013               MP 2017
MWEA.                   PETER GITAU.        JOSPHAT WACHIRA
GICHUNGU.            NJOGU BARUA.       ROBERT. GITHINJI
NDIA.                     STEPHEN NGARE.     GEORGE KARIUKI
KIRINYAGA CENTRAL.   JOSEPH GITARI.    JOHN WAMBUGU
KIRINYAGA.                WINNIE NJUGUNA     PURITY NGIRICI


As for NYERI out of 7 MPs only one managed to make it back , a come back rate of 14%

CONSTITUENCY        MP 2013.              MP 2017
TETU.              NDUNGU GITHINJI.        JAMES GACHUHI MWANGI
KIENI.             KANINI KEGA.                KANINI KEGA
MATHIRA.         PETER WERU.                RIGATHI GACHAGUA
OTHAYA.          MARY WAMBUI.              JAMES MUGAMBI
MUKURWEINI.   KABANDO KABANDO.     ANTONY KIAI.   
NYERI TOWN.     ESTHER MURUGI.          NGUNJIRI WAMBUGU
NYERI.             PRISCILLA KANYUA.          RAHAB MUKAMI
 Next is KIRINYAGA

Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .


County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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As for MURANGA out of 8 MPS Only 2 managed to make it back representing 25% comeback rate

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.      MP 2017
KANGEMA.            TIRUS NGAHU.    MUTURI KIGANO
KIHARU.               IRUNGU KANGATA.   NDINDI NYORO
MATHIOYA.            CLEMENT WAMBUGU.   PETER KIMARI
KIGUMO.               JAMLECK KAMAU.        .RUTH MWANIKI
KANDARA.             ALICE WAHOME.           ALICE WAHOME
MARAGWA.            PETER KAMANDE MWANGI MARY WAITHERA
GATANGA.              HUMPHREY KIMANI NJUGUNA.    JOSEPH NDUATI
MURANGA.              SABINA CHEGE.            SABINA CHEGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2020, 06:45:43 PM »
Robina Taking an example of Central province above , I’ve made a summary to show you the come back rate of MPs ,  out of 39 Mps elected in previous parliament only 8 managed to make it back representing a come back rate of 20%
Now together with your analogy below goes to debunk the myth you’ve been peddling that by Having elected MPs supporting a National Kingpin represents  the popularity on ground and will translate to votes in the General elections.

To the contrary ,as you have seen most of the MPs make it to parliament by the virtue of popular parties , in 2013 Central was TNA , in 2017 it was Jubilee and the. Bare truth is that politicians use all tactics at disposal to make sure they win the nominations from rigging , intimidation , bribing party officials to violence. It ain’t a secret that in Central majority of outgoing MPs bribed Murathe to be rigged in, Murathe pocketed the money and most MPs made it by stuffing ballots and voting multiple times. Remember the Tuju /Murathe Jubilee smart cards which Ruto trashed last minute and printed more ballots.

Now even going to 2022 elections even the so called Ruto loyalists in Central some of them won’t make it back , that’s the reality but at least they know they will get a soft landing . I foresee some Cabine Secretaries in Rutos entourage . 

Tortured argument- MP high churn rate has nothing to do with party or factions - it is universal. Moses Kuria or Wuchomba might not come back and that is unrelated to Uhuruto manenos.


Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .

County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2020, 07:30:53 PM »
That was a rout - that they blamed on Ruto :) and next one will be even brutal.
As for NYANDARUA out of 6 MPs only 1 managed to make it back representing 16% come back rate.

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.               MP 2017
KINANGOP.          STEPHEN MBURU.    ZACHARY THUKU
KIPIPIRI.             SAMUEL GICHIGI.      AMOS KIMUNYA
OL KALOU.           DAVID KIARAHO        DAVID KIARAHO
OL JOROK.         JM WAIGANJO.            MICHAEL  MUCHIRA
NDARAGWA.       FRANCIS NDERITU.     JEREMIAH  KIONI
NYANDARUA.      WANJIKU MUHIA.        FAITH GITAU


As for KIRINYAGA OUT OF 5 MPS 0 Made it back representing a come back rate of 0%
 CONSTITUENCY.    MP 2013               MP 2017
MWEA.                   PETER GITAU.        JOSPHAT WACHIRA
GICHUNGU.            NJOGU BARUA.       ROBERT. GITHINJI
NDIA.                     STEPHEN NGARE.     GEORGE KARIUKI
KIRINYAGA CENTRAL.   JOSEPH GITARI.    JOHN WAMBUGU
KIRINYAGA.                WINNIE NJUGUNA     PURITY NGIRICI


As for NYERI out of 7 MPs only one managed to make it back , a come back rate of 14%

CONSTITUENCY        MP 2013.              MP 2017
TETU.              NDUNGU GITHINJI.        JAMES GACHUHI MWANGI
KIENI.             KANINI KEGA.                KANINI KEGA
MATHIRA.         PETER WERU.                RIGATHI GACHAGUA
OTHAYA.          MARY WAMBUI.              JAMES MUGAMBI
MUKURWEINI.   KABANDO KABANDO.     ANTONY KIAI.   
NYERI TOWN.     ESTHER MURUGI.          NGUNJIRI WAMBUGU
NYERI.             PRISCILLA KANYUA.          RAHAB MUKAMI
 Next is KIRINYAGA

Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .


County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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As for MURANGA out of 8 MPS Only 2 managed to make it back representing 25% comeback rate

CONSTITUENCY.   MP 2013.      MP 2017
KANGEMA.            TIRUS NGAHU.    MUTURI KIGANO
KIHARU.               IRUNGU KANGATA.   NDINDI NYORO
MATHIOYA.            CLEMENT WAMBUGU.   PETER KIMARI
KIGUMO.               JAMLECK KAMAU.        .RUTH MWANIKI
KANDARA.             ALICE WAHOME.           ALICE WAHOME
MARAGWA.            PETER KAMANDE MWANGI MARY WAITHERA
GATANGA.              HUMPHREY KIMANI NJUGUNA.    JOSEPH NDUATI
MURANGA.              SABINA CHEGE.            SABINA CHEGE

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These were cheated by Murathe  with smart cards , they went and bought the smart cards and sat preety at home , they even stopped campaigning . Then the unedpected happened ,  After mismanagement of the nominations where there was shortage of ballot papers a scheme by Murathe  and co to rig in candidates , Uhuru handed over the nomination exercise to Ruto. Ruto trashed the smart cards and printed more ballot papers, this caight the Murathes candidates offguard . Hence the beef they have .

In regards to 2022 , elected members having checked the statistics are much more tactical now (look at Muranga) They want to make sure there is no popular party aka 2007 where the rate of survival would be higher , hence all the shenaningams and the urge to balkanize the country. Mandera in North Eastern Managed it i 2017 elections through PDR,  Wairia, chege and Nduati want to do it using CRP, but they forget thatin Central its the wanjikus who determine the direction politicians will take , mot the other way around.
Wasnt it Sabina Chege who was crying the other day after being asked by electorate to follow Raila with his BBI. Franklin Bett rings a bell.
Come 2022 they will be jobless, Murathe will be a billionare and as he said he will not be interested with politics , he will ho home with Uhuru (words from his mouth)

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2020, 10:41:56 PM »
Yes those 10 cards smart cards lol

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2020, 10:44:31 PM »
Yes murathe is making as much money before they retire to melindi with uhuru to drink and smoke their remainder time..and they are using some tools.Dont be surprised their last act as endorsing Ruto

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2023, 05:05:10 PM »
Robina Taking an example of Central province above , I’ve made a summary to show you the come back rate of MPs ,  out of 39 Mps elected in previous parliament only 8 managed to make it back representing a come back rate of 20%
Now together with your analogy below goes to debunk the myth you’ve been peddling that by Having elected MPs supporting a National Kingpin represents  the popularity on ground and will translate to votes in the General elections.

To the contrary ,as you have seen most of the MPs make it to parliament by the virtue of popular parties , in 2013 Central was TNA , in 2017 it was Jubilee and the. Bare truth is that politicians use all tactics at disposal to make sure they win the nominations from rigging , intimidation , bribing party officials to violence. It ain’t a secret that in Central majority of outgoing MPs bribed Murathe to be rigged in, Murathe pocketed the money and most MPs made it by stuffing ballots and voting multiple times. Remember the Tuju /Murathe Jubilee smart cards which Ruto trashed last minute and printed more ballots.

Now even going to 2022 elections even the so called Ruto loyalists in Central some of them won’t make it back , that’s the reality but at least they know they will get a soft landing . I foresee some Cabine Secretaries in Rutos entourage . 

Tortured argument- MP high churn rate has nothing to do with party or factions - it is universal. Moses Kuria or Wuchomba might not come back and that is unrelated to Uhuruto manenos.


Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .

County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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Re: GEMA have abandoned Mobutu
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2023, 05:41:53 AM »
 :D Robina must have committed suicide after Ruto got elected big time. I told her Ruto would be elected in 2022 with precision of a neurosurgeon and she thought I was high on crack.
Robina Taking an example of Central province above , I’ve made a summary to show you the come back rate of MPs ,  out of 39 Mps elected in previous parliament only 8 managed to make it back representing a come back rate of 20%
Now together with your analogy below goes to debunk the myth you’ve been peddling that by Having elected MPs supporting a National Kingpin represents  the popularity on ground and will translate to votes in the General elections.

To the contrary ,as you have seen most of the MPs make it to parliament by the virtue of popular parties , in 2013 Central was TNA , in 2017 it was Jubilee and the. Bare truth is that politicians use all tactics at disposal to make sure they win the nominations from rigging , intimidation , bribing party officials to violence. It ain’t a secret that in Central majority of outgoing MPs bribed Murathe to be rigged in, Murathe pocketed the money and most MPs made it by stuffing ballots and voting multiple times. Remember the Tuju /Murathe Jubilee smart cards which Ruto trashed last minute and printed more ballots.

Now even going to 2022 elections even the so called Ruto loyalists in Central some of them won’t make it back , that’s the reality but at least they know they will get a soft landing . I foresee some Cabine Secretaries in Rutos entourage . 

Tortured argument- MP high churn rate has nothing to do with party or factions - it is universal. Moses Kuria or Wuchomba might not come back and that is unrelated to Uhuruto manenos.


Now that you still clinging on elected MPS to drive your theory of popularity  , I will table as a sample Central MPs percentage of the ones who made it back
Lets start in Kiambu (see below summary) Out of  13 Mps only  4 made it back in 2017  thats around  30 % come back rate .

County - Constituency -2017 elected MP  -                                 2013 Elected MP

Kiambu-Lari -Hon. Mwangi, Jonah Mburu                                         -JOSEPH MBURU KAHANGARA
Kiambu -Gatundu North   -Hon. Kibeh, Annie Wanjiku                          -FRANCIS KIGO NJENGA
Kiambu -Limuru -Hon. Mwathi, Peter Mungai                                   -CHEGE JOHN KIRAGU
Kiambu-Githunguri Hon. Mukuha, Gabriel Kago                                   -PETER NJOROGE BAIYA
Kiambu-Kikuyu Hon. Ichung'wah, Anthony Kimani                           -ANTHONY KIMANI ICHUGW’A
Kiambu-Ruiru Hon. Kingara, Simon Nganga                                            -ESTHER NYAMBURA GATHOGO
Kiambu-Juja Hon. Waititu, Francis Munyua                                             -FRANCIS MUNYUA WAITITU
Kiambu-Kabete Hon. Wamacukuru, James Githua Kamau                   -GEORGE MUKURU MUCHAI
Kiambu-Thika Town   Hon. Jungle, Patrick Kimani Wainaina                    -ALICE WAMBUI NGANGA
Kiambu-Gatundu South    Hon. Kuria, Moses Kiarie                            -JOSEPH NGUGI NYUMU
Kiambu-Kiambu -Hon. Wamuchomba, Gathoni                                       -Anne Nyokabi Gatheca
Kiambu- Kiambu -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO                                       -JUDE L KANGETHE    NJOMO
Kiambu -KIAMBAA-KOINANGE PAUL                                                     -PAUL KOINANGE

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2023, 08:35:58 AM »
Isn't sema girl sounding like her