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Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« on: January 29, 2023, 09:07:33 PM »
1) IN the 1960s,Minority Kenyan tribes wanted federalism while the Somalia wanted secession in North Eastern.This was to prevent the big tribes frok dominating the small tribes  and Christianity dominating islam.Jomo Kenyatta stopped the secession through KANU KADU unification and Shifta war against Somali.

(2) In 2005,Raila started the Majimbo movement.This movement was against domination of small tribes by big tribes or the tribes in power.This was as a result of ethnic domination of kalenjin during Moi regime and Kikuyu during Kibaki regime.As a result,Majimbo/federalism which means that power is shared by all tribes of Kenya became popular and Kenyans rejected the Kibaki draft constitution.

3) To add salt to injury,Kibaki unilaterally appointed electoral commission officials while his GOVERMENT became a GEMA affair.This made Raila popular across Kenya.The unilateral appointed of electoral officials by Kibaki was a way to rig the 2007 election.

4) This led to the 2007 disputed elections which started the Kenya federalism process where by each of the 40+ Kenyan tribes would elect its own governor in the 47 Counties and reduced the powers of the president through the 2010 constitution as a way of ending ethnic dominance through 50 +1 rule and devolution.

SECESSION BEGINS THROUGH FEDERALISM.

5) In 2017 Uhuru consulted Raila ODM in the appointment of iebc officials to stop rigging claims.He even went ahead to respect the Supreme court ruling which ordered a repeat of elections.Raila did not participate.He swore himself later as the PEOPLES PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA NOT THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA.That symbolically means the creation of a new republic.The people's republic.To avoid the division of the republic.Uhuru kenyatta made peace with Raila and started the BBI process.He even supported Raila in 2022 elections as a way of unification of the nation because kikuyu and Kalenjins have held the presidency for the last over 60 years.

6) Ruto won the 2022 elections.Raila has disputed that Ruto won because he won in more counties/provinces in kenya that Ruto.

7) Ruto has changed the law to unilaterally appoint the IEBC officials.He will be a contestant in 2027 elections and Raila will not participate in those elections because of the IEBC law.Raila has started major rallies across the country to whip up emotions across Kenya from his solid vote bloc in the coast western Nyanza and Nairobi.

8) The question is,If Raila will not participate in 2027 elections and half of the Kenyan counties don't participate in those elections.Will he swear himself as a the PEOPLES PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC of Kenya?

Raila has demonized the IEBC JUDICIARY EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATURE which means he has no Faith in the Kenyan constitution.

A MULTI ETHNIC COUNTRY CANNOT BE LED BY FORCE.Its time to end politics and accommodate Raila odinga for the proper functioning of the REPUBLIC.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2023, 01:43:53 AM »
1st, NO ONE IS BIGGER that 254. Q...."
8) The question is,If Raila will not participate in 2027 elections and half of the Kenyan counties don't participate in those elections. Will he swear himself as a the PEOPLES PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC of Kenya?"

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF THIS RETARD DOES NOT PARTICIPATE? HE HAS BOYCOTTED once before. HE has been mockingly sewn in to office. What happened. GSU and Tear gas bad iko. And the retard is dead horse.

Go to elections - if u get elected, you will be president.

Vitiasho na ujinga, peleka to Ida and Rosemary and Jr. Wacha upuzi. Take nonsense to your household...Doesn't Ida tell you...Ujinga make your family look bad??????

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2023, 05:18:39 AM »
Raila should retire...he can't match Ruto moves.Ruto likely to be re elected by huge margin after uniting kenya.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2023, 07:47:42 AM »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/resources/QLTlLJx0Vr.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi61qS8uu78AhVkcKQEHXCiCW0QFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2_ovfnlNWTvdhMLqHhYceo

1) Raila won the presidential vote in 27 Counties while Ruto won in 20 Counties.It therefore means Raila odinga has more political legitimacy in kenya than William Ruto.

2) If you use the provinces,Raila won in 6 out of 8 former provinces.

3) Out of the 44+ Kenyan tribes,Raila won in more ethnic blocs than Ruto.

This trend has been going on since 2005.Raila has kept this trend from 2013 2017 and 2022.

Uhuru saw this problem devised mechanisms to create more political stability by supporting Raila Presidential Candidacy because.That would calm other Kenyan tribes that they can win the presidency which has been held by Kikuyus and Kalenjins for 60 years.Thats why other tribes support Raila.

This is a political problem which cannot be solved through the current constitutional structure like in 2008..

RUTO should embrace Raila and Kalonzo.He should make them prime minister and Deputy prime minister.

Otherwise,Use of force like the unilateral change of IEBC law to appoint IEBC commissioners will only divide Kenya and is a recipe for political crisis.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2023, 07:58:37 AM »
1992-Multi party democracy was introduced in Kenya which made Kenya a ethnic democracy where tribes gang up to assume political power.By 2007,Kenya had already suffered political crisis in the quest for power.

2010-The ethnic democracy mutates Kenya from a unitary state to a federal state in the name of devolution.Power is shifted from domination of one tribe through 50+1 presidential vote win and creation of counties centred on Kenyan tribes.

2022........

We inherited our system from the United Kingdom which is composed of four states.Ireland England Wales and Scotland.If we can see how the UK has mutated over time and it's future.We need to be very careful with our politics.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2023, 08:52:51 AM »
I agree with Githunguri Raila final card is to balkanize Kenya and lead to seccesion  of Nyanza and coast. Ameamua nchi ikufe na yeye,Ruto has to be very smart,go soft and intelligent otherwise if he goes hard against baba sympathetic people will increase giving baba more platform before 2027.
I am sure gatheca is bankrolling Baba certainly.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2023, 08:57:56 AM »
Ruto doesn't have to do anything. Independent police will deal with Raila.Raila is on a slow puncture. Ruto need to go for Uhuru and those financing Raila.Raila will not make Ruto lose sleep..because election ended long time..international community saw Raila beaten.Now its time to form inquiry into bomas and state capture to keep Azimio folks occupied. They are too idle...give Miguna a job to take them through an inquiry

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2023, 10:35:09 AM »
I agree with Githunguri Raila final card is to balkanize Kenya and lead to seccesion  of Nyanza and coast. Ameamua nchi ikufe na yeye,Ruto has to be very smart,go soft and intelligent otherwise if he goes hard against baba sympathetic people will increase giving baba more platform before 2027.
I am sure gatheca is bankrolling Baba certainly.

I don't think Uhuru is bankrolling him.Uhuru has to loose alot of properties at the coast and RIFT valley incase of secession.

 Kalonzo is 70 years.Raila is 80 years almost.Their time is almost up.They have nothing to loose.Remember if they started a secession movement,I think Ukambani and Coast would become one Republic.They always vote together.I think western and Nyanza would become another republic because majority luhyas are with Raila.

The countrywide rallies are just to whip up emotions,Yesterday they even said they will trigger mass action and demonstrations in two weeks.Their work is to provoke the police to tear gas and beat them.That will create alot of sympathy in their base.

Remember Raila and Kalonzo have alot of sympathisers in the police military and army.so the use of force will just backfire.Even Uhuru or Kibaki couldn't use force and alot of international condemnation will follow.It will be followed by tough decisions from IMF.Force doesn't work.

Gachagua needs to think of his political actions and words.I think incase of secession or balkanization,the biggest victim would be GEMA.We have alot of GEMA Diaspora in Ukambani Lamu kwale Kisii.The work of GEMA leader should be to protect our interest.

Raila is old.He should be made prime minister.A big office,A motorcade  and endless foreign trips to contain him and Kalonzo before they exit their political careers.

A COUNTRY IS NOT LED BY FORCE.Uhuru knew that it is better to pay the political price than loose a country.Its a high time Ruto acts as a statesman.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2023, 01:15:35 PM »
Only position open for Raila is Official Opposition Leader.
Anyone try violence with Ruto is a joker.
Even Raila knows better than entertain jokes.
Raila and Kalonzo knows Ruto is about 3 months away from picking 2027 referee!
They have to try to stay alive until 2032.

As for Uhuru - the dog barking the most is Kioni - who still works for Uhuru.

Uhuru according to Itumbi are feeling tax heat

I agree with Githunguri Raila final card is to balkanize Kenya and lead to seccesion  of Nyanza and coast. Ameamua nchi ikufe na yeye,Ruto has to be very smart,go soft and intelligent otherwise if he goes hard against baba sympathetic people will increase giving baba more platform before 2027.
I am sure gatheca is bankrolling Baba certainly.

I don't think Uhuru is bankrolling him.Uhuru has to loose alot of properties at the coast and RIFT valley incase of secession.

 Kalonzo is 70 years.Raila is 80 years almost.Their time is almost up.They have nothing to loose.Remember if they started a secession movement,I think Ukambani and Coast would become one Republic.They always vote together.I think western and Nyanza would become another republic because majority luhyas are with Raila.

The countrywide rallies are just to whip up emotions,Yesterday they even said they will trigger mass action and demonstrations in two weeks.Their work is to provoke the police to tear gas and beat them.That will create alot of sympathy in their base.

Remember Raila and Kalonzo have alot of sympathisers in the police military and army.so the use of force will just backfire.Even Uhuru or Kibaki couldn't use force and alot of international condemnation will follow.It will be followed by tough decisions from IMF.Force doesn't work.

Gachagua needs to think of his political actions and words.I think incase of secession or balkanization,the biggest victim would be GEMA.We have alot of GEMA Diaspora in Ukambani Lamu kwale Kisii.The work of GEMA leader should be to protect our interest.

Raila is old.He should be made prime minister.A big office,A motorcade  and endless foreign trips to contain him and Kalonzo before they exit their political careers.

A COUNTRY IS NOT LED BY FORCE.Uhuru knew that it is better to pay the political price than loose a country.Its a high time Ruto acts as a statesman.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2023, 03:14:58 PM »
Manyora and other Azimio cant still digest the defeat

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2023, 03:31:40 PM »
Only position open for Raila is Official Opposition Leader.
Anyone try violence with Ruto is a joker.
Even Raila knows better than entertain jokes.
Raila and Kalonzo knows Ruto is about 3 months away from picking 2027 referee!
They have to try to stay alive until 2032.

As for Uhuru - the dog barking the most is Kioni - who still works for Uhuru.

Uhuru according to Itumbi are feeling tax heat

I agree with Githunguri Raila final card is to balkanize Kenya and lead to seccesion  of Nyanza and coast. Ameamua nchi ikufe na yeye,Ruto has to be very smart,go soft and intelligent otherwise if he goes hard against baba sympathetic people will increase giving baba more platform before 2027.
I am sure gatheca is bankrolling Baba certainly.

I don't think Uhuru is bankrolling him.Uhuru has to loose alot of properties at the coast and RIFT valley incase of secession.

 Kalonzo is 70 years.Raila is 80 years almost.Their time is almost up.They have nothing to loose.Remember if they started a secession movement,I think Ukambani and Coast would become one Republic.They always vote together.I think western and Nyanza would become another republic because majority luhyas are with Raila.

The countrywide rallies are just to whip up emotions,Yesterday they even said they will trigger mass action and demonstrations in two weeks.Their work is to provoke the police to tear gas and beat them.That will create alot of sympathy in their base.

Remember Raila and Kalonzo have alot of sympathisers in the police military and army.so the use of force will just backfire.Even Uhuru or Kibaki couldn't use force and alot of international condemnation will follow.It will be followed by tough decisions from IMF.Force doesn't work.

Gachagua needs to think of his political actions and words.I think incase of secession or balkanization,the biggest victim would be GEMA.We have alot of GEMA Diaspora in Ukambani Lamu kwale Kisii.The work of GEMA leader should be to protect our interest.

Raila is old.He should be made prime minister.A big office,A motorcade  and endless foreign trips to contain him and Kalonzo before they exit their political careers.

A COUNTRY IS NOT LED BY FORCE.Uhuru knew that it is better to pay the political price than loose a country.Its a high time Ruto acts as a statesman.

(1) Nobody has monopoly of violence in Kenya.The Kenyan security agencies are composed of Kenyans from all tribe armed with weapons and no uniformed officer wants to be involved in politics.political problems require political solutions.

(2) Which are those Kenyatta companies which don't pay tax?

(3) How many people can GOK kill?200?1000?10000?

Democracy must be representative.In Nigeria you have presidency rotating between Muslim North and Christian South,In Ethiopia Abiy Ahmed tried fighting Tigray and he was met by full force.

If the GOVERMENT cannot fight Alshabab Kerio valley bandits and Lamu terrorists who are illiterate,you think it can fight leaders a political leader like Raila who has legitimacy of over 27 Counties against a sitting president who won in 20 counties?

Think.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta stopped SECESSION in Kenya in 2018.
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2023, 04:15:26 PM »
Tukutane 2032 or around.
Deep state and system have now resorted to laughable empty threats.
Ruto won a clear and legitimate win....beating odds.
Kenya knows it.
Intl Community knows it.

Ruto if he start cracking the whip on them - they will cry.

Let them continue.

Kalonzo Yatta farm should be repossed first

(1) Nobody has monopoly of violence in Kenya.The Kenyan security agencies are composed of Kenyans from all tribe armed with weapons and no uniformed officer wants to be involved in politics.political problems require political solutions.

(2) Which are those Kenyatta companies which don't pay tax?

(3) How many people can GOK kill?200?1000?10000?

Democracy must be representative.In Nigeria you have presidency rotating between Muslim North and Christian South,In Ethiopia Abiy Ahmed tried fighting Tigray and he was met by full force.

If the GOVERMENT cannot fight Alshabab Kerio valley bandits and Lamu terrorists who are illiterate,you think it can fight leaders a political leader like Raila who has legitimacy of over 27 Counties against a sitting president who won in 20 counties?

Think.